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It's not prejudicial, it's FACTUAL. What's prejudicial is equating Christians that haven't killed anyone in the name of their religion with Islamists who have. You guys just cannot get it into your head that these terrorist are slaughtering innocents on behalf of and in the name of their god. Why can't you admit that?Quote:
Originally Posted by talaniman
When you admit that Christians are pedophiles, and baby killers.
Dude, try something that hasn't been done to death. How many times do you have to hear us condemn pedophilia in the church before you drop that bullsh*t line? And if you're referring to abortion you know as well as anyone, in fact your side preaches it on a regular basis, that's a choice the individual woman makes. My church publicly and unashamedly stands against abortion, we don't dictate how people live their lives.Quote:
Originally Posted by talaniman
Your turn.
While y'all are still trying to come up with a real answer to my question, chew on this The DNC and its chairperson Debbie Downer is already using the Boston bombing to build their email list - under the guise of thanking the first responders.
Battenfeld: Political ploy masked as gratitude? No thank you
I know most of you won't take issue with such a crass political ploy, so carry on.
Yep, used by every single consumer-centric corporation and most retail stores and most websites. It is 100% voluntary opt-in - don't like it?. then don't use that website!Quote:
This is a classic “data mining” technique
Thanks for the obvious.
No problem, I noticed you had missed it.
Actually, that was the "under the guise" part of my post.Quote:
Originally Posted by NeedKarma
I think most consumers are wise enough to know what's going on when they are asked for their email and postal code.
That's how we target advertising for the markets and consumer profiles we want to hit. Then again when buying something cash at a store and I'm asked for any personal info I decline and say 'cash sale' please.
The topic would be the ethics of Democrats exploiting a terrorist attack.
Since that doesn't seem to be an ethical issue to you back to my question, what other religions beside Islam are spawning terrorists that maim, kill and cause mass physical destruction?
Wondergirl gave you an answer way back here: https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/curren...ml#post3448203
Uh huh, and I responded. Back to my question, what other religions beside Islam are spawning terrorists that maim, kill and cause mass physical destruction? Not 'Christian' identity groups, militant Cuban exiles, pathetic anti-abortion idiots, moronic a$$holes pretending to be a church, or leftist environment groups (though I find it interesting she would list a spawn of Obama's pal Bill Ayers' group in there).
Let me answer that for you, there are none.
So it's the religion to blame and not the fundamentalists who subvert it?
Christianity has love as it's foundation and it's mission is to persuade the world through love in it's founder's example and in the name of their God. Those who do otherwise have subverted our religion.Quote:
Originally Posted by talaniman
Islam's mission is to conquer the world by bringing every man, woman and child into submission to Islam, voluntarily or by force, in it's founder's example and in the name of their god. Those who do so are just following their leader.
Both religions have strayed from their path. I agree that Islam fundamentalists are the more dangerous of the two.
Hello Steve:
If you were an ORDINARY peaceful Pakistani, you'd say CHRISTIANS are terrorists who maim and kill. Why wouldn't he be right? Terror from the sky is TERROR, whether it happens in NY City, or Northern Waziristan.Quote:
what other religions beside Islam are spawning terrorists that maim, kill and cause mass physical destruction?
You DO think we're a Christian nation, don't you? Why shouldn't HE think the same thing?
Excon
I think Lindsey Graham ,John McCain should read the laws they pass. The 2012 National Defense Authorization Act says "a person who was a part of or substantially supported Al-Qaeda, the Taliban, or associated forces that are engaged in hostilities against the United States or its coalition partners" are eligible for military detention. So far there is no evidence that would justify that definition.Quote:
(4) Is Russia going to help us find out what the dead terrorist was DOING when he went there?
(5) Should the live one be tried by military tribunal or by the federal court?
(6) Should Miranda be read to him? If so, when?
Graham and McCain have spent most of the last decade trying to confer constitutional due process rights on unlawful foreign enemy combatants .It is amusing to watch their sudden conversion.
I think the Justice Dept had best tread cautiously on the issue of the delayed Miranda reading too. The case against Dzhokhar Tsarnaev is rock solid . The only thing that could derail it is a procedural snafu.
Hey He's an american, you are just going to have to live with that. That he wasn't born there or perhaps didn't spend his formative years there? Well that's cancelled out by his mind altering religion.
Who cares anyway, he should be treated as he treated others, made to stand in front of a pressure cooker bomb full of ball bearings and nails. If you stopped your namby pamby ways maybe you would have less of this sort of thing
Two things, The Boston bomber was estranged from his own family, and Muslim community, and the Canadians were tipped off by Muslim clerics of the loon who was going to blow up trains.
A loon is dangerous from any religion, and the religion is but a dressing for a dark mind. There are a lot of psychopaths out there.
Come on admit it, you think it's our fault.Quote:
Originally Posted by talaniman
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Originally Posted by excon
Is there an echo in here?
Hello again, Steve:
I noticed you didn't answer the first time, so I thought I'd try again. You know me... Persistent.
excon
If the American military were doing it in the name of Jesus instead of the US government I could see their point.
Tamerlan Tsarnaev got Mass. welfare benefits | Boston Herald
Unbelievable !
His wife was doing double time at work while this bum collected welfare and planned his assault .Quote:
Marathon bombings mastermind Tamerlan Tsarnaev was living on taxpayer-funded state welfare benefits even as he was delving deep into the world of radical anti-American Islamism, the Herald has learned.
State officials confirmed last night that Tsarnaev, slain in a raging gun battle with police last Friday, was receiving benefits along with his wife, Katherine Russell Tsarnaev, and their 3-year-old daughter. The state's Executive Office of Health and Human Services said those benefits ended in 2012 when the couple stopped meeting income eligibility limits. Russell Tsarnaev's attorney has claimed Katherine — who had converted to Islam — was working up to 80 hours a week as a home health aide while Tsarnaev stayed at home.
The whole issue got diverted to religious line and the possible action after the attack is still not there. Russians are willing to act but that's just be waiting till they act. If the guy confess then a case can be filed against his group or organization in the other country with cooperation of their government. Diplomatic measures might already been taken to put pressure on other side.
Yep, taxpayers were funding his jihad.
Hello again,
OMG! We've been HOSED! He was driving on the roads I PAID for too. I wonder if he ate any SUBSIDIZED food that I PAID for.. Do you think he used SUBSIDIZED gasoline that I PAID for? Man, we've not only been attacked, we've been ripped off.Quote:
Yep, taxpayers were funding his jihad.
Here's the solution... Let's not let ANYBODY in, and let's make everybody show their ID when they buy gasoline or Micky D's.
Oh yeah, and let's stop welfare too.. Who knows? There might be a couple more out there HOSING us. That'll show those terrorists.
Excon
About funding, there are bigger groups involved in terror funding. Not only taxpayer money but investors money misused. An investigation on similar line going on about HSBC group for money laundering. Terror roots are deeper than they appear.
Or we could just say immigrants are not eligible for welfare until they are American citizens.Quote:
Originally Posted by excon
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Originally Posted by excon
Russia contacted FBI `multiple’ times on concerns about alleged Boston Marathon bomber - Nation - The Boston GlobeQuote:
Russian authorities alerted the US government not once but ``multiple'' times over their concerns about Tamerlan Tsarnaev -- including a second time nearly a year after he was first interviewed by FBI agents in Boston -- raising new questions about whether the FBI should have focused more attention on the suspected Boston Marathon bomber, according to US senators briefed on the probe Tuesday.
The FBI has previously said it interviewed Tsarnaev in early 2011 after it was initially contacted by the Russians. After that review, the FBI has said, it determined he did not pose a threat.
In a closed briefing on Tuesday, members of the Senate Intelligence Committee learned that Russia alerted the United States about Tsarnaev in ``multiple contacts'' -- including ``at least once since October 2011,''
I guess we need a fence all around the whole freakin' country??
And what would/could the FBI have done? Until someone commits a crime, the person of interest can't be jailed or removed from society somehow.
Are you seriously saying that we have to wait for the bombs to go off before action is taken ?
That seems to be what happens. Mentally ill (et al.) people cannot be jailed or kept from society unless they have done something to show they are a danger to themselves or to others.Quote:
Originally Posted by tomder55
Are you saying he was mentally ill and it wasn't his fault he had to blow some people up?
Umm well I for one think that given the multiple warnings that they dropped the ball on this . Just like they dropped the ball on the 9-11 attacks . This wasn't a case of mentally ill .This was a case of having reasonable suspicion that the guy was up to no good . What did they do ? Dismiss the warning as not credible because it came from the Russians ? The Russians were telling us that the older Tsarnaev brother had radical Islamist links. The FBI has surveilled for much less than that .
Wow! That's a fantastically absurd extrapolation of what I actually said!Quote:
Originally Posted by speechlesstx
I had said "mentally ill (et al.)" to include anyone else else who might be up to no good. So there is suspicion and surveillance. Nothing can really be done about it unless the suspects take some kind of action. Right ?Quote:
Originally Posted by tomder55
If you play enough in the Current Events board you see this A LOT.Quote:
Wow! That's a fantastically absurd extrapolation of what I actually said!
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