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Originally Posted by NeedKarma

The more you post all those issues with your screwed up educational system the more you validate my comment.

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You have yet to learn when you get like this I pick on Canada next. Fix your own problems.

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You have yet to learn when you get like this I pick on Canad

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I know you do, it's your defense mechanism yet it's totally irrelevant to the discussion.
You don't see any Canadians here lamenting how terrible the people are in our educational system... because we value it. If you post any issues with it we view it correctly as the abberations to the norm, which is why it makes the news.

Paying schools or individuals "bonuses" for obtaining results is just asking for educational trouble. This process devalues the role of the student who should be at the centre of the education.

Corporatism in education is no different to political corporatism in wider society. Corporatism in education has little to do with liberal ideas or progressive ideas. It has everything to do with devaluing the role of all individuals who are involved in the process. It has everything to do with pushing a rationalist agenda in education. It is worth keeping in mind that devalued individuals behave like devalued individuals.

Political corporatism does noting for the individual in exactly the same way corporatism in education does nothing for the kids. In the end this is understandable and perhaps excusable. After all we are obviously still bewitched by the ideology.

Tutty,
Wonderful post, I agree with what you've said.

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Corporatism in education has little to do with liberal ideas or progressive ideas.

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I think it has everything to do with it . Progressive corporatism or Liberal corporatism has infiltrated the American Education system since the progressive movement in the US began.
Liberal corporatism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
And yes ;the system is designed to create nameless faceless drones and cogs in the machine ,who don't challenge the assumptions that are taught . All they need do is regurgitate canned answers or fill the correct response in a bubble test.

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Originally Posted by NeedKarma

I know you do, it's your defense mechanism yet it's totally irrelevant to the discussion.
You don;t see any Canadians here lamenting how terrible the people are in our educational system...because we value it. If you post any issues with it we view it correctly as the abberations to the norm, which is why it makes the news.

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If you only knew how amusing your posts are and why.

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Originally Posted by tomder55

I think it has everything to do with it . Progressive corporatism or Liberal corporatism has infiltrated the American Education system since the progressive movement in the US began.
Liberal corporatism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
and yes ;the system is designed to create nameless faceless drones and cogs in the machine ,who don't challenge the assumptions that are taught . All they need do is regurgitate canned answers or fill the correct response in a bubble test.

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As far as liberal corporatism is concerned I think we have moved on from that position into what I would now call political corporatism. Political corporatism is a form of management that marginalizes interests groups and goes beyond economics.

You can tout all the political changes in education you like but it will make no difference. It will be the same outcomes with different labels. After all, that's the beauty of political corporatism when applied to education.