I just read an article that "guest worker" status would be next to indentured servanthood and can be greatly misused by an employer. I wonder if there is a way to keep that upfront and honest.
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I just read an article that "guest worker" status would be next to indentured servanthood and can be greatly misused by an employer. I wonder if there is a way to keep that upfront and honest.
What article?Quote:
Originally Posted by Wondergirl
Does this work for you, or I will copy all or part of the article.Quote:
Originally Posted by speechlesstx
Thanks. I thought excon wanted them to wash our dishes and pick our pistachios. Now what?
Just waiting to hear your opinion so we don't put words in your mouth. Do you support green cards for the undocumented shadow workers while we keep working to secure the borders better, or not?
They still can, but not as slaves. Oh, and don't forget picking lettuce.Quote:
Originally Posted by speechlesstx
I picked Bing cherries every summer during high school, but most high schoolers nowadays refuse to do work that is so menial and low-paying. So let's treat with respect and decent wages those who are willing to pick our produce (and clean our motel rooms and do the restaurant kitchen scut work).
I think you can deduce my opinion from what I said. No, everyone doesn't get a green card, we need to know who is here, there MUST be conditions whether you like it or not. I'm looking out for the country, the illegals who should be allowed to stay, your neighbors, etc - not just trying to pad voter rolls and pander.Quote:
Originally Posted by talaniman
P.S. Still waiting on ex to respond to this.
I see the Dems have common cause with business after all.. . cheap labor .
This is probably the wrong thread to post this on, but I envision public libraries as being the main place, the "middleman" so to speak between individuals and government, where illegals learn English and all the other things they will need to become citizens.
USCIS - Voting RightsQuote:
Originally Posted by speechlesstx
Your lack of FACTS again leads you to false conclusions, so since voting is not an option for green card holders, what's your problem in giving them the option of WORKING... legally? For that a green card IS required.Quote:
Non-U.S. citizens, including permanent residents (green card holders), who vote, or register to vote, in a federal election also can be denied naturalization and/or removed (deported) from the United States.
I may have been born at night but it wasn't last night. Expanding their constituency has always been part of the push for a "path to citizenship" (citizens can vote) by Democrats.Quote:
Originally Posted by talaniman
What of your own pandering to Latinos with this sudden interest in immigration reform? That's not to expand your voter base? It is for moderate republicans, or the Rino's of your party.
Hmm wonder why you think more Latino voters will run to our side, and not to YOURS. After all isn't Ted Cruz the right wing TParty poster boy? Texas also elected Joaquin Castro to the house, a dem.
Sudden interest? Dude, Rubio - the guy leading the charge - IS from an immigrant family in a state overflowing with immigrants, legal and illegal.I think he's been interested all along.Quote:
Originally Posted by talaniman
It's pretty easy, your side will promise them anything.Quote:
Hmm wonder why you think more latino voters will run to our side, and not to YOURS. After all isn't Ted Cruz the right wing TParty poster boy?
Hello again, Steve:
Undocumented workers that have been convicted of crimes have already been deported. Therefore, I assume the remaining people will make just fine neighbors...Quote:
I asked you for details first. But no, I don't believe every illegal deserves to stay, I'm sure there are some you wouldn't want in your neighborhood.
What is YOUR criteria??
Excon
Just a fair shake.Quote:
It's pretty easy, your side will promise them anything.
In other words you're OK with not knowing who is here. Not me.Quote:
Originally Posted by excon
P.S. Still waiting on which remarks by Cruz were so offensive and exactly how he's a "chicken hawk." Did he dodge the draft or something?
Hello again, Steve:
Mexico has no central database to check, and they're the MOST advanced Latino nation... I'd LIKE to know who's here, but since I CAN'T, they get the benefit of the doubt...
If you haven't served in the military, to say that two decorated, wounded veterans of war don't LOVE the military like you do, is highly OFFENSIVE.
You're welcome to this dirt bag.
excon
That's OK, I found your source. Come on dude, "less than ardent fans of the U.S. military" is hardly something to get apoplectic about and I still see nothing that supports the "chickenhawk" label, as in actively avoiding military service. Apparently he chose to get an education instead of enlisting - how dare he?!Quote:
Originally Posted by excon
By the way, Senator Dan Coats served in the army and seems to support Cruz' observation. Is he allowed to criticize him?
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"I don’t know how you can nominate someone and make them Secretary of Defense who has had so much disrespect for the military," Coats told radio host Tom Rose. "And said so many public things in opposition to the military, what it stands for, the values that it holds. Chuck has alienated an awful lot of people."
Isn't that also true of Dems we know and love?Quote:
Originally Posted by speechlesstx
I don't know, I haven't called anyone a chickenhawk that I can recall.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wondergirl
Didn't Kerry violate the Logan act when he went to Paris while still in the Navy to negotiate independently with the enemy ? I think he did.
Well that will be a great point to bring up when he becomes a candidate again, how is it all those anti-communists haven't arranged his prosecution yet, or would you like to begin the persecution now?
I think that because of the extreme movement of the Left so much more to the left that the Right just seems more conservative. The Left is taking this country to places that will be nearly impossible to correct unless we have a full Republican/Conservative Administration and Congress to remove those damaging moves . WE as voters need to contact our respective representatives and tell them our concerns. And not just one or two items. Let them know your interest in everything that you do not feel is being done right. WE ARE THE GOVERNMENT. They work for us. This administration just started this thing where petitions can be sent to the White House (with a minimum of 100,000 signatures) for their perusal. So far, this administration has dismissed anything that does not line up with their agenda. This is not how our right to redress should be handled. Until we can get millions of people on board with one of these petitions, they will continue to do as they wish and not what the American public and taxpayers think is better for us.
It would be good if this were possible, but sadly it is not the case.Quote:
Originally Posted by Handyman2007
As I was trying to tell Tom in a previous post. The "ruling elites" don't just rule. In any hierarchical system who gets to rule is decided by allegiances formed or dissolved. One role of government is to be the power broker.
Organizations and companies being favoured or not favoured (depending on the persuasion of the government in power). When we vote we get to determine who the government brokers are going to be. Unfortunately, the voter does little more than fulfill this role.
What makes it even worse is that more and more draft legislation is being formulated by organizations who are outside of the political process.
Yes, the President can introduce a proposal but as stated, it is very, very rare that a sitting president would author an entire bill. Oh One More thins,, the Congressional Hispanic Caucus?? Where is the Congressional White Caucus??
I think you miss the point of elections, while you might think the majority think this way or that, that is rhetorical. In the election the majority of voters endorsed the president's platform, that the distribution of the seats in the house doesn't reflect this can be a reflection of local issues. You have a first past the post voting system, this doesn't mean more than 50% voted in favour of each candidate electedQuote:
Originally Posted by Handyman2007
Sorry you guys missed the last election but there is another one next year. Be there or be losers again.
Hope you have better luck catching the Super Bowl Sunday.
Sore losers are everywhere, let's hope it doesn't overpower good sense this time
Hello H:
There isn't one, because having one would be VERY offensive. I understand that you don't understand that, so let's just leave it at that.Quote:
Where is the Congressional White Caucus??
Excon
On Wall Street, and the Cayman Islands.Quote:
Where is the Congressional White Caucus??
I find the terms Black Caucus and Hispanic Caucus offensive and racist... on THEIR part.
Well of course they are, racism hasn't left yet, there is just a thin veneer of PCQuote:
Originally Posted by Handyman2007
Hello again, H:
Like I said, you don't have an understanding of the issues..Quote:
I find the terms Black Caucus and Hispanic Caucus offensive and racist... on THEIR part.
Excon
I understand it, ever since desegregation blacks, Hispanics, gays, etc.have voluntarily segregated themselves.Except non-Hispanic whites that is, you won't find a congressional white caucus, a white dormitory at college, a United Caucasian College Fund, A National Association for the Advancement of White People...Quote:
Originally Posted by excon
We can't have one because that would be racist.Quote:
Originally Posted by Handyman2007
What thin veneer?. most racism these days is practiced by the Black AND the Hispanic communities, not Whites.Quote:
Originally Posted by paraclete
There is already have a white caucus, in not only government, but every other institution in the country. There is also political parties that represents white interests,its called the republican party,with rich white guys, and the TParty, with middle class white people with rich guys giving money for elections locally, and nationally.
I wonder why that would be that every non white, and female would run like hell from you? Any clues?Quote:
I understand it, ever since desegregation blacks, Hispanics, gays, etc.have voluntarily segregated themselves
It isn't racism, its self defense. I didn't think you had a clue!Quote:
What thin veneer?. most racism these days is practiced by the Black AND the Hispanic communities, not Whites.
Hello again, Steve:
What do you call a gated community?Quote:
I understand it, ever since desegregation blacks, Hispanics, gays, etc.have voluntarily segregated themselves
Excon
Bullsh*t. The only white caucus is Obama's inner circle.Quote:
Originally Posted by talaniman
I don't see anyone running from me, they LOVE me.Quote:
I wonder why that would be that every non white, and female would run like hell from you? Any clues?
I call it a gated community.Quote:
Originally Posted by excon
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