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Looks like that video will go the way of the other one they tried to "promote":
http://www.plannedparenthood.org/abo...-liv-36136.htm

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"In addition, it is clear from the edited tape that there are two or more video sources, as well as an additional audio source, increasing the opportunity for manipulation and selective editing.

"The truth is that Live Action has a history of doctoring video, making false claims and has no credibility. This is a tactic similar to that of James O’Keefe, the discredited right-wing activist long associated with Live Action.

Then they show the history of these people doctoring videos.

Hello again, Steve:

I think what we've established here and in the other thread, is that even though you proclaim that you don't watch FOX News, you buy what they're selling, hook, line and sinker.

excon

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Looks like that video will go the way of the other one they tried to "promote":
http://www.plannedparenthood.org/abo...-liv-36136.htm

Then they show the history of these people doctoring videos.

Here you go, the unedited version.

Apparently this young lady coerced PP into complicity with gender-selective abortions and Medicaid fraud.

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Originally Posted by excon

Hello again, Steve:

I think what we've established here and in the other thread, is that even though you proclaim that you don't watch FOX News, you buy what they're selling, hook, line and sinker.

excon

I never said I didn't watch Fox News. On the contrary, the wife and I watch the morning show because it's twice as fun as those other morning shows. What I said I don't watch is Hannity or when he was on, Beck. But what the.. I give you a link to the Daily Caller and you claim Fox is behind it? Dude.

P.S. Funny how you guys jump complain about a mythincal war on women but deny the real, obvious example of the left's war on women I keep posting. I guess you can justify it because you don't consider conservative or unborn women "real" or "authentic" women. That is how things are with you leftists, if you don't vote blindly to remain in their grips or toe the party line - you don't matter. I on the other hand believe everyone matters.

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but deny the real, obvious example of the left's war on women I keep posting. I guess you can justify it because you don't consider conservative or unborn women "real" or "authentic" women.

No, we're saying that never happened.

Live Action's New Planned Parenthood Attack Manufactures "Widespread" Sex-Selective Abortion Problem

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Media Matters for America (MMfA) is a politically progressive media watchdog

Media Matters for America - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

That about says it all .

I realize that's all you need to hear to stop listening. Most of us like to be progressive instead of regressive.

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Originally Posted by NeedKarma

I realize that's all you need to hear to stop listening. Most of us like to be progressive instead of regressive.

Conservatism is not regressive. We just like things that work instead screwing everything up.

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We just like things that work instead screwing everything up.

I'm pretty sure everyone wants that.

Then explain the federal government.

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Then explain the federal government.

Any federal government, regardless of what party is in charge. You guys have lost control. You will get what the big corps want you to get.

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No, we're saying that never happened.

And PP fired this staffer and "all staff members...were immediately scheduled for retraining" because the "hoax patient encounter" "never happened." Bwa ha ha!!

But you said that there are targeting females for abortion, why would they fire someone for doing exactly what you say their mandate is?

Cya... they got caught so they found a sacrificial lamb .
I'm shocked, shocked to find that gambling is going on in here!

So you still think they are systematically eliminating women?

Over a million abortions are performed in the US every year. Forty percent of all pregnancies in the US are terminated. How many do you suppose are female? There are currently 108 boys born for every 100 girls in the US. Why might that be?

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Forty percent[/U][/URL] of all pregnancies in the US are terminated.

See, this is another example of the gross misrepresentations that you do.
The statistic says:

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Nearly half of pregnancies among American women are unintended, and about four in 10 of these are terminated by abortion

It's the accidental pregnancies that are terminated by abortion by the women's choice, not 40% of all pregnancies as you try to make people believe. Geez.

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There are currently 108 boys born for every 100 girls in the US. Why might that be?

Because, as your source shows "Skewed sex ratios (108), favoring boys over girls, have appeared in U.S. subpopulations mirroring the international data (Chinese-Americans, Korean-Americans, and Filipino- Americans)". Get the Asians to change their cultural values and you'll get what you want.

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See, this is another example of the gross misrepresentations that you do.
The statistic says:

It's the accidental pregnancies that are terminated by abortion by the women's choice, not 40% of all pregnancies as you try to make people believe. Geez.

Excuse me, 40 percent of unintended pregnancies are terminated. Unintentional errors are not "gross misrepresentations." Gross misrepresentations are when you accuse me of gross misrepresentations.

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Get the Asians to change their cultural values and you'll get what you want.

Well that's about as racist as it gets.

But let's continue your quote shall we?

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Douglas Almond and Lena Edlund of Columbia University identified these trends, including a male bias of 50% among third-order births, in U.S. populations of Chinese, Korean, and Asian-American heritage. “We interpret the found deviation in favor of sons to be evidence of sex selection, most likely at the prenatal stage,” they write.[2] This fact has prompted several U.S. states to ban sex selection abortion in their jurisdictions. These states include Illinois (2008), Pennsylvania (2008), Oklahoma (2010), and Arizona (2011).

Worldwide Condemnation

Cultural policies to deter sex selection abortion have been pursued by countries around the world for many years, and legislative bans have been adopted in many countries. Abortions for sex selection are illegal in China, Hong Kong, Singapore, South Korea, Taiwan, India, the United Kingdom (which has banned sex selection abortion for “social reasons”), and Vietnam. While legislative action is not enough to undo centuries-long cultural biases, it has often proven to be the threshold step for galvanizing cultural reform.

Public Support for Action

Besides the legislation that has been enacted in diverse regions of the world, evidence exists that legislative bans on sex selection abortions have broad support. A March 2006 Zogby poll found that 86 percent of Americans believe that an abortion performed because of the sex of the developing child should be illegal. A LifeCanada poll conducted by Environics Research and released in October 2011 showed that an astonishing 92 percent of Canadians thought that sex selection abortions should not be legal in Canada.[3] To this can be added the new poll released on May 16, 2012 by the Charlotte Lozier Institute, which found that 77 percent of American adults (80 percent of women) would support making sex-selection abortion illegal when that is the sole reason for seeking an abortion.

Seems you Canucks overwhelmingly agree with me that this actual war on women should be illegal, so let's address that instead of this manufactured war, eh?

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Well that's about as racist as it gets.

Why racist? Asians prefer male children for several reasons embedded in their culture. Just like American farmers used to prefer male children to help on the farm. Girls were fairly worthless except as cooks for the harvest and threshing crews--and to produce more sons.

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Why racist? Asians prefer male children for several reasons embedded in their culture. Just like American farmers used to prefer male children to help on the farm. Girls were fairly worthless except as cooks for the the harvest and threshing crews--and to produce more sons.

Funny how me and tom appear to be the only ones here that don't find girls "worthless" or disposable, but I digress.

OK, imagine me saying get the Blacks to change their cultural values and you'll get what you want. Or get the Mexicans to change their cultural values and you'll get what you want. Is it racist now?

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Funny how me and tom appear to be the only ones here that don't find girls "worthless" or disposable, but I digress.

Apparently you aren't a soybean or wheat farmer seventy-five to a hundred years ago.

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OK, imagine me saying get the Blacks to change their cultural values and you'll get what you want. Or get the Mexicans to change their cultural values and you'll get what you want. Is it racist now?

What do we want?

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Apparently you aren't a soybean or wheat farmer seventy-five to a hundred years ago.

I'm 51, so no. But my grandparents were and they had 10 kids, 6 girls (including my mom) and 4 boys. They didn't seem to worry about the girls being "fairly worthless."

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What do we want?

I didn't ask that, I asked "Is it racist now?" Well?

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I'm 51, so no. But my grandparents were and they had 10 kids, 6 girls (including my mom) and 4 boys. They didn't seem to worry about the girls being "fairly worthless."

I betcha your grandpa would have preferred boys if he owned a farm. If he did own one, did the girls drive the tractor and do field work?

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I didn't ask that, I asked "Is it racist now?" Well?

I didn't realize it was a racist thing before. Indians prefer sons. Do you know why?

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I betcha your grandpa would have preferred boys if he owned a farm. If he did own one, did the girls drive the tractor and do field work?

I believe I just said he was a farmer and didn't seem to worry about the girls being "fairly worthless." I don't know what all the girls did, I know my mom played basketball. So? I understand the preference for boys but you seem to be trying to distract from the point, which is where the actual war on women is taking place.

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I didn't realize it was a racist thing before. Indians prefer sons. Do you know why?

I don't care why. All I know was based on the left's own standards NK's comment was as racist as it gets.

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I don't care why. All I know was based on the left's own standards NK's comment was as racist as it gets.

Well, you should care. Many first-generation Asians have brought their cultural and family values to this country and are trying to uphold them in the face of the personal freedom their children are otherwise experiencing. Sharia law is one of those brought-over values. Female genital mutilation is another. Asian boys don’t need the dowries that can cripple a family financially. Boys are supposed to stay home after marrying and help care for aging parents. Hinduism dictates that only boys can light their parents’ funeral pyres.

Yeah and those cultural preference are gone in a generation ;just like most immigrant groups in the past ;their children love being American and all that implies.

But the point is that PP was caught on tape speaking of the option to abort based on gender preference. I guess that comes under the pro-choice category ?

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Originally Posted by Wondergirl

Well, you should care. Many first-generation Asians have brought their cultural and family values to this country and are trying to uphold them in the face of the personal freedom their children are otherwise experiencing. Sharia law is one of those brought-over values. Female genital mutilation is another. Asian boys don’t need the dowries that can cripple a family financially. Boys are supposed to stay home after marrying and help care for aging parents. Hinduism dictates that only boys can light their parents’ funeral pyres.

Ah, glad you agree with me that certain cultural norms being imported to this country like Sharia law are a threat.

Now about this war on women here, try to stop dancing around and tell us who should we be worried about, those aborting women for gender preference, union leaders smashing piñatas with Nikki Haley's face on them, porno rags photoshopping and publishing vulgar images of conservative women, a president who wants a country full of Julias dependent from cradle to grave or conservatives trying to give that baby girl a chance and empowering her to be a strong, independent woman?

My beef is parents who don't know how to parent so that their kids don't get a good start before school, eat too much junk food, don't know how to write a thank-you note or even say the words, feel entitled about anything and everything, and don't know how to keep their clothes on once they turn 12. If you can fix the parents and how they parent, you're on your way to nirvana.

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I don't care why. All I know was based on the left's own standards NK's comment was as racist as it gets.

How is it racist?
Remember, I said : "Get the Asians to change their cultural values and you'll get what you want."
So, is that your plan? To change what asian people do? Since they are the ones that are causing the statistics that you don't like.

Nirvana right next door to utopia

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Seems you Canucks overwhelmingly agree with me that this actual war on women should be illega

Nope, that's not what the statistic says at all. You made sh!t up again.

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Ah, glad you agree with me that certain cultural norms being imported to this country like Sharia law are a threat.

OMG! Could you be any more racist!?

So are we saying it is anti-female racism from the womb or more a preference of partiality of parents to their own children being born based on, which sex of a child will be more beneficial to the survival of the family? Not that I agree with all abortions and maybe we should revisit again and again what happens to many girls after they are born and even what happens to many young boys. I've heard it said from soldiers coming back from Saudi/Iraq when we were over there that the mindset among some of the rich and powerful over there is that, girls are for making babies and boys are for pleasure slaves. I'm only sharing what I've heard as perhaps some of you have heard the same. Information became available when we were there through intelligences and information gathering. And what is being done to the innocent in other countries including America with mainly white slavery of women and girls disappearances, especially being taken into foreign countries, never to be seen again though some have escaped. Yet governments keep too quiet about it all not to rock the political boat on a global scale. I'm a woman and I'm not so much concerned about my rights and privileges, but more about the future of young daughters worldwide, living and yet to be born.

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Ending the practice of sex selection gendercide/infanticide abortions should be something we all agree about. This is just one step closer to the eugenist's dreams come true .

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Ending the practice of sex selection gendercide/infanticide abortions should be something we all agree about. This is just one step closer to the eugenist's dreams come true .

So you are suggesting we end the war on men