Well Mitt... I'm tempted
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Well Mitt... I'm tempted
Well that's a riot... and in a federal prison too, much better treatment I hear than state prisons. Got to hand it to him I guess. Voting for him not because they want him, but votes of protest sends the message loud and clear to Obama's camp.Quote:
Originally Posted by speechlesstx
Which, along with the marriage amendment vote in NC is probably why he announced his de-evolution to his 1996 position today.Quote:
Originally Posted by FirstChair
By the way, welcome to our little 'family.' Like all families we have our differences but we'll try not to get any mud on you.
Thanks speechlesstx... Glad to be here even when the fireworks start! It is stimulating and thought provoking. Wondering (answer if you want to) how your username came about, because I’m not seeing you have a problem holding your own, excon either, all of you for that matter. Lol! Glad to be here and since I'm a female I might lean a little more on the emotional side now and then yet realizing we need a balance of all appeals…logical, ethical and emotional in finding which appeals to us individually on a particular subject and what we can agree on collectively. I do see a meeting of the minds and hearts as being obtainable. We can always agree to disagree as well.
Speechless, as in incapable of being expressed in words, taken from an album title by my favorite musical inspiration and artist, Steven Curtis Chapman. I did get to meet him and Geoff Moore on that tour by the way, which was very cool.
Oh, and I'm a Texan. :)
And FirstChair? That sounds musical...
Hello again, Steve:
In all these years, I did not know that about you. You're really a warm sort of Texan, aren't you? Ok, I'll stop beating you in politics so badly. Baseball too.
excon
That's because no one asked. Dude, I told you a long time ago we would enjoy sitting down and having a cold brewski together.Quote:
Originally Posted by excon
P.S. We're tied again. Just got to get my pitching up to speed.
I love it, love it! I too get speechless at times and am in awe. Thank you for sharing the meaning of speechlesstx. I kind of thought you were a Texan. Boy howdy, do tell!Quote:
Originally Posted by speechlesstx
This is most likely going to get mixed views and reviews. About 'FirstChair' OK, here goes... I believe we live to die and we die to live and all the living in between should have a higher purpose to life. I know there is a life after earth life. I know there are kingdoms of worlds beyond and one of those kingdoms is called, the Celestial Kingdom. In this kingdom, families can be together forever. I believe it is possible to have an eternal marriage in the next life, to be with an eternal companion and become an eternal family. I also believe in the principle of sharing my eternal companion with spirit sisters because of our sisterly love, that if there are sisters who have not an eternal companion, I would be willing to share my eternal companion of whom I am sealed to, so that they too can know the fullness of love and their creation. I would love to be in the “FirstChair” of his wives.
So first chair you are morman or at least are influenced by mormon doctrine so a companion of mitty
No judgment here, you have a purpose and you know what you want and that's to be admired.Quote:
Originally Posted by FirstChair
Hi everyone, I've been gone on business just wanted to check in and see how you'all are getting along. Jk ;-)
Long day out on the road... see you all later, I need zzzzzz Have a good night. Yes I am a member of, The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints... Church nickname, Mormons.
Welcome back. :)
The latest numbers are out and once again unemployment remains above 8 percent. The WH response? "Same as it ever was...
Broken Record, Broken Promises
June 2012: “Therefore, it is important not to read too much into any one monthly report and it is informative to consider each report in the context of other data that are becoming available.” (LINK: The Employment Situation in June | The White House)
May 2012: “Therefore, it is important not to read too much into any one monthly report and it is helpful to consider each report in the context of other data that are becoming available.” (LINK: The Employment Situation in May | The White House)
April 2012: “Therefore, it is important not to read too much into any one monthly report and it is helpful to consider each report in the context of other data that are becoming available.” (LINK: The Employment Situation in April | The White House)
March 2012: “Therefore, it is important not to read too much into any one monthly report, and it is helpful to consider each report in the context of other data that are becoming available.” (LINK: The Employment Situation in March | The White House)
February 2012: “Therefore, as the Administration always stresses, it is important not to read too much into any one monthly report; nevertheless, the trend in job market indicators over recent months is an encouraging sign.” (LINK: The Employment Situation in February | The White House)
January 2012: “Therefore, as the Administration always stresses, it is important not to read too much into any one monthly report; nevertheless, the trend in job market indicators over recent months is an encouraging sign.” (LINK: The Employment Situation in January | The White House)
December 2011: “Therefore, as the Administration always stresses, it is important not to read too much into any one monthly report.” (LINK: The Employment Situation in December | The White House)
November 2011: “Therefore, as the Administration always stresses, it is important not to read too much into any one monthly report.” (LINK: The Employment Situation in November | The White House)
October 2011: “The monthly employment and unemployment numbers are volatile and employment estimates are subject to substantial revision. There is no better example than August’s jobs figure, which was initially reported at zero and in the latest revision increased to 104,000. This illustrates why the Administration always stresses it is important not to read too much into any one monthly report.” (LINK: The Employment Situation in October | The White House)
September 2011: “Therefore, as the Administration always stresses, it is important not to read too much into any one monthly report.” (LINK: The Employment Situation in September | The White House)
August 2011: “Therefore, as the Administration always stresses, it is important not to read too much into any one monthly report.” (LINK: The Employment Situation in August | The White House)
July 2011: “Therefore, as the Administration always stresses, it is important not to read too much into any one monthly report.” (LINK: The Employment Situation in July | The White House)
June 2011: “Therefore, as the Administration always stresses, it is important not to read too much into any one monthly report.” (LINK: The Employment Situation in June | The White House)
May 2011: “Therefore, as the Administration always stresses, it is important not to read too much into any one monthly report.” (LINK: The Employment Situation in May | The White House)
April 2011: “Therefore, as the Administration always stresses, it is important not to read too much into any one monthly report.” (LINK: The Employment Situation in April | The White House)
March 2011: “Therefore, as the Administration always stresses, it is important not to read too much into any one monthly report.” (LINK: The Employment Situation in March | The White House)
February 2011: “Therefore, as the Administration always stresses, it is important not to read too much into any one monthly report.” (LINK: The Employment Situation in February | The White House)
January 2011: “Therefore, as the Administration always stresses, it is important not to read too much into any one monthly report.” (LINK: The Employment Situation in January | The White House)
December 2010: “Therefore, as the Administration always stresses, it is important not to read too much into any one monthly report.” (LINK: The Employment Situation in December | The White House)
November 2010: “Therefore, as the Administration always stresses, it is important not to read too much into any one monthly report.” (LINK: The Employment Situation in November | The White House)
October 2010: “Given the volatility in monthly employment and unemployment data, it is important not to read too much into any one monthly report.” (LINK: The Employment Situation in October | The White House)
September 2010: “Given the volatility in the monthly employment and unemployment data, it is important not to read too much into any one monthly report.” (LINK: The Employment Situation in September | The White House)
July 2010: “Therefore, it is important not to read too much into any one monthly report, positive or negative. It is essential that we continue our efforts to move in the right direction and replace job losses with robust job gains.” (LINK: The Employment Situation in July | The White House)
August 2010: “Therefore, it is important not to read too much into any one monthly report, positive or negative.” (LINK: The Employment Situation in August | The White House)
June 2010: “As always, it is important not to read too much into any one monthly report, positive or negative.” (LINK: The Employment Situation in June | The White House)
May 2010: “As always, it is important not to read too much into any one monthly report, positive or negative.” (LINK: The Employment Situation in May | The White House)
April 2010: “Therefore, it is important not to read too much into any one monthly report, positive or negative.” (LINK: The Employment Situation in April | The White House)
March 2010: “Therefore, it is important not to read too much into any one monthly report, positive or negative.” (LINK: On the Employment Situation in March | The White House)
January 2010: “Therefore, it is important not to read too much into any one monthly report, positive or negative.” (LINK: On the Employment Situation in January | The White House)
November 2009: “Therefore, it is important not to read too much into any one monthly report, positive or negative.” (LINK: On the Employment Situation in November | The White House)
Alrighty, so when do we put some stock into that unemployment report?
Is it the summer recovery yet ?
Yep, wreckovery summer v 3.0.
Hello Steve:
What? It's Bush's fault.
excon
Today is G. W. Bush's 66th birthday. Happy birthday!
Bush is not responsible for wreckovery summer, versions 1, 2 or 3.Quote:
Originally Posted by excon
By the way, this month's jobs reports reveals that more people went on disability than got new jobs.
Yep, things are looking up.
And people are going on disability ;not because they are disabled ;but because their extended unemployment benefits have ended .
We are swiftly creating another permanent dependency class.
And that's the "Julia" plan at work.Quote:
Originally Posted by tomder55
Hello again, Steve:Quote:
Originally Posted by speechlesstx
I wonder if going without power for 8 days has anything to do with firing city and state employees? Nahhh.
excon
8 days without power, is that a third world country or what?
How can you tell if it is an unemployed person undeservedly going on disability or a disabled person finally having to seek disability status, that is, a disabled person who has been gainfully employed all their life, but can no longer find a job? I don't know-I'm asking, but I do know of a disabled lady in that situation now.
SSDI was expanded by Congress in the fall of 2008 and took effect in 2009 .Perhaps what ailed the lady in 2008 was not covered and now is. (just a guess)
This expansion comes at a very fortuitous time for the administration because it takes more jobless off the unemployment stats. The 8+% that has been holding steady despite the lack of job creation masks a real unemployment rate that rivals the Roosevelt era.
The real unemployment rate is what you find in congress
Fair comment, tom.
Curiously enough, this lady in her late 50's was tossed on the street by a church, after 27 years of service to the church, having been supervised by about six diff ministers (who worked around her limitations) over all those years with no problems.
It is very possible that the church authorities saw a way to reduce their costs (a bigger problem now than ever for churches) by getting rid of someone who had health and life insurance benefits, by dictating working conditions to her that they knew she couldn't meet because of her disabilities. Her replacement is a part-timer with no benefits, so the church is now saving about $ 20K per year (prob more) in salary and benefits.
So, I guess the church board and minister feel that they made quite a coy move, while she has filed for bankruptcy, has no health or life insurance, will wait for five months to see a single cent from SSI, and thereafter have to live on about 50% of what she had been earning.
And to top it off, they knew that by making her resign because she couldn't meet the new conditions of employment they had established, they were in effect proving her case at SSI, for her.
Hadn't considered a lot of that until you folks brought it up, but maybe that is a popular technique now.
The only thing I can say ,not knowing any of the facts ,and not disputing yours is that the woman got the shaft . I wish her well . My advice is that there are clear laws against discrimination due to disability ,and she should pursue a grevience. .
That being said ; we are talking about 85,000 newly desginated disabled in a month. If those greedy bass turd corporatists were discarding their employees under the pretext of disability, then you know the press would be all over that story line.
Don't worry Tom it helps the unemployment statistics in a short time your government will change the definition of disability and force all these people back to workQuote:
Originally Posted by tomder55
Since that would in most cases be the power company's responsibility to get it up and running again, no.Quote:
Originally Posted by excon
Ex,
As an old highway engineer, I would say that roads blocked by fallen trees, and/or large limbs would be an indication of lack of road funds and employees to manage the culling of trees that used to be removed on a regular basis before they became a hazard to both vehicles and adjacent power lines.
Hello again, smear:
Of course, the cutback in the cities has something to do with it. Was this a HURRICANE?? Come on. It was a summer storm. 9 DAYS??
There's ONE thing good about it... Washington, DC is in the middle of it.
excon
Dude, you may get a lot of rain but apparently you don't have a clue to the severity of a monstrous thunderstorm. But a cut in public workers has nothing to do with it. The government's role in this is to "fume" or fine.
Power outages drag on in D.C. region; officials fuming at utility companies
Do we have enough bureaucrats to "fume?" I think so, take the Maryland governor for instance:
“Nobody will have their boot further up Pepco’s backside than I will,” said Md. Gov. Martin O’Malley (D).
Dems seem to have a thing for putting boots on necks or up a$$es of corporations when they don't (or can't) bend to their will.
Since ex found a liking to charts I thought I'd offer him up a couple...
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I reckon that's why Obama wants a tax increase - to pay for all the new wards of the federal government he's creating.
P.S. Did you know the guy that's slamming Romney for outsourcing jobs invests in businesses that LOVE outsourcing?
You just can't make this stuff up. After giving a speech in Austin, taking credit for killing bin Laden again apparently on his own (he built that), preaching his "bottom up" economics, and slamming Romney for outsourcing jobs - he trudged over to a "ruthless" outsourcer's house for another $25,000 a plate fundraiser.
Just curious, who outsourced more jobs? Mitt or the "ruthless" obot?Quote:
After giving a speech in Austin, Texas in which he decried Mitt Romney for overseeing companies that outsourced jobs, President Obama attended a fundraiser hosted by Tom Meredith, a former Dell executive who once oversaw outsourcing at his own company — and said he would be "ruthless" about cutting costs.
In 2001, while serving as senior vice president of Dell Computer Corp, Meredith defended plans to lay off between 3,000 and 4,000 employees — largely in Texas — while sparing about 4,000 jobs in Asia Pacific. When that strategy was reported by the tech press at the time Meredith defended the move.
"We will be ruthless in how we address our cost structure," Meredith said, a comment that drew wide attention at the time.
Talk about a yawner... this outsourcing stuff is much ado about nothing . Dell and Apple ,and every other company manufacturing overseas does so so they can hire thousands of workers around the country to sell ,and service to hundreds of thousands of American customers who desire inexpensive electronic devices in the United States . Do they want American wages to shrink to the levels necessary to compete ? No . Would the American consumer purchase the devices if the prices reflected American wages ? No . So who would the American manfacturer be selling to exactly ?
Hello tom:Quote:
Originally Posted by tomder55
One needs to ask, did SOMEBODY outsource, or did the economy REQUIRE him to outsource. I say it's the economy. That's WHY I agree with you, tom, that nobody would buy American made goods because they're too expensive... Fact is, the jobs AREN'T coming back.
Therefore, we need a NEW industry that'll take up the slack and allow us to KEEP our middle class, instead of watching it waste away.. This is where government needs to lead the way. Why?? Well, isn't the private money is sitting on the sidelines because of "uncertainty"? Besides, as you suggest, the seeds of a new green industry aren't yet ripe enough for private investment... That AGAIN, is another reason why government needs to invest.
The problem we're going to have is similar to the question, who invented the internet... I say government. You say private industry... It can't be both. In your world, there's NO place for government investment, apparently, in ANYTHING.. You know, Julia and all..
I suggest that if we followed your lead, all those numbers I posted on another thread about how the US is in decline, will PLUNGE!
excon
Another clear distortion of my position. What I do not like EVER is government subsidizing ;favoring one industry or company over another . If the government is going to invest in science ,exploration ,or R&D then fine .There is a place for it... But the government tried to force an industry onto the market when there is clearly no sufficient demand ,and the technology is not ready . It was a complete waste of taxpayer's money(not the government's money)Quote:
In your world, there's NO place for government investment, apparently, in ANYTHING.
Hello again, tom:Quote:
Originally Posted by tomder55
As much as I'd like, I can't remember every position you've taken on every issue... IF I've distorted your position, it's inadvertent.
We've argued this point before... You think the technology will get ready on its own accord.. I think investment will PROMPT it.
excon
Got to call you on this one, Tom, there is no alturistic motive to the service the unemployed and the potential customers. There is stark reality that the Dell structure employes the least number of people possible in pursuing their business which is to undercut their competition.Quote:
Originally Posted by tomder55
The people don't buy a locally made product because they know they can get it cheaper from Dell. So much for job creation , wise up, it is job destruction
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