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Hello again, tom:Quote:
Originally Posted by tomder55
For the same reason REPUBLICAN Senator David Vitter is still serving... Because it's OK when your OWN guy does stuff, but the other guy better not... I understand... Really, I do.
By the way, David Vitter actually BROKE the LAW. Weiner didn't... Vitter put his weiner all up inside his whore. Weiner just mailed a picture. I refer you to my post above. There are SOME hypocrites around, and they SUCK.
excon
No it's not OK . I'm consistent as far as that goes. It remains to be seen if Weiner broke any law. He almost certainly violated rules of the House.
Not that that matters ; Dem Reps who clearly broke the law are still serving ;one defiantly so.
Here's the difference in my view, their responses.Quote:
Originally Posted by excon
Vitter: "This was a very serious sin in my past for which I am, of course, completely responsible. Several years ago, I asked for and received forgiveness from God and my wife in confession and marriage counseling. Out of respect for my family, I will keep my discussion of the matter there — with God and them. But I certainly offer my deep and sincere apologies to all I have disappointed and let down in any way."
Weiner: ""Well, the main question that a lot of people are asking is did I send the photograph," Weiner said in an interview with CBS News. "I did not. This was a prank, a hoax."
Hello again, Steve:
That's it?? He apologized and Wiener didn't... It matters NOT what they DID, only what they SAID about it?? Really?? That's bizarre as hell.
excon
Really? I'm not defending either one, but people tend to be more forgiving of someone who comes clean as opposed to someone who lies and weasels his way around it. It's not bizarre, it's completely normal.
Hello again, Steve:Quote:
Originally Posted by speechlesstx
There's another factor at work here that you guys seem to miss... When a guy holds himself out to be holier than thou, and it turns out that he's NOT holier than thou, it's normal for people to CHEER when he takes a fall..
However, when a normal guy turns out to BE normal, people don't like him, but they don't CHEER over his fall. Frankly, I could FORGIVE a guy who is LIKE me.. But, I can't forgive a guy who is LIKE me, but PRETENDS he's sooooooo much better... I LOVE to see him take a fall.
But, that's just me... You?? Not so much.
excon
I feel that way about Obama pretending to be one of us, but I digress. I guess that's the difference between you and me, I know my own imperfections, I don't cheer when someone takes a fall. It's that "there but for the grace of God go I" thing.
But if you're saying Weiner is a NORMAL guy I have to laugh, he's a very sanctimonious guy in his own right.
Weiner normal ? Sorry ;it is not normal behavior to send lewd photos and have virtual sexual encounters with other women on line .It's abnormal ; and it's dangerous for many reasons for an elected Rep to display such obsessive compulsive behavior . I'd have to investigate the law to see if his behavior crossed the line.
Hello again,
Let's not get off track here. What's normal here, is not HOW one's sexual proclivities emerge, but that one HAS sexual proclivities in the FIRST place... What's NORMAL, is that we, as a species, dillydally. It's ABNORMAL to deny it.
Worse than that, it's hypocritical to say you will NEVER dillydally, because you're BETTER than that, and then you get caught dillydallying..
To me, that is a much worse offense than anything Anthony Weiner did.
Let me tell you why. It's because people who LIE about their own sexual proclivities, and pass LAWS that require everybody else to live up to what THEY themselves DON'T live up to, is WRONG, HYPOCRITICAL, and highly DANGEROUS for the country.
excon
Dude, I get the hypocrisy angle, but if hypocrites don't make laws then who will?
Hello again, Steve:Quote:
Originally Posted by speechlesstx
I'm available.
excon
Hypocrisy thy name is Weiner
From his web site :
http://thomas.loc.gov/home/gpoxmlc110/h719_ih.xmlQuote:
Along with several colleagues in Congress, we introduced & passed the KIDS (Keeping the Internet Devoid of Sexual Predators) Act of 2007, a bill to require sex offenders to register their e-mail and instant message addresses with the National Sex Offender Registry.. .
Sadly, the Internet is the predator's venue of choice today. We need to update our strategies and our laws to stop these offenders who are a mere click away from our children.
Anthony Weiner - New York's 9th District
Now there's no evidence that he's a predator . There is also no evidence he was sure of the age of the women he was sexting . Either way his behavior can be interpreted as at least borderline sexual harassment .
Page 2: Rep. Anthony Weiner: 'The Picture Was of Me and I Sent It' - ABC NewsQuote:
During one Facebook chat conversation, Broussard said she voiced uneasiness with the electronic relationship, to which she says Weiner replied, "you are not stalking me....I am stalking you."
Are you running?Quote:
Originally Posted by excon
Hello again, tom:Quote:
Originally Posted by tomder55
Hypocrisy becomes the nations business, when hypocrisy foments LAW.
Yes, Weiner is a hypocrite in terms of his vows to his wife. But, he doesn't DENY others the right to get married because he purports to sanctify marriage, when he clearly does NOT. That is SOP for the right wing.
In one instance his family is harmed. In the other, the NATION is harmed...
excon
Still he should resign. Any and all civil servants who have done similar immoral acts should resign as well.
In other words, liberals aren't hypocrites because they really don't have any standards.
Hello again, Steve:Quote:
Originally Posted by speechlesstx
The standard liberals use is the Constitution... Yours appears to be the Bible. I'll opt for the Constitution. It doesn't say ANYTHING about dillydallying.
excon
Ex, thanks for validating my assertion.
I don't need any bible to tell me faithfulness to my spouse is right. If we have no moral and ethical standards for the men and women "leading" this country then then we're far worse off than I thought. Some level of trust that transcends the constitution is needed. Maybe it's not unconstitutional for Weiner to tweet his weiner, but it ain't right.
Hello again, Steve:Quote:
Originally Posted by speechlesstx
You make the mistake of assuming that morals and ethics can only emanate from the Bible, and then you correct yourself. So, what is it?
Actually, you were correct FIRST, and then you argued with yourself.
excon
When did I use the bible? "There, but for the grace of God..." is a quote from John Bradford which I applied personally. The principles I spoke of are biblical principles, forgiveness, repentance, etc. But I intentionally did NOT offer the bible as a standard, you assumed.Quote:
Originally Posted by excon
Cal Thomas offered the standard he is held to: "A member ... officer or employee of the House shall conduct himself at all times in a manner that shall reflect creditably on the House." -- Code of Official Conduct, Rule XXIII, Clause 1'
Has his conduct reflected creditably on the House?
There are tons that fail that criteria. For example:Quote:
Originally Posted by speechlesstx
The Ultimate Collection Of Bad Michele Bachmann Quotes: Pics, Videos, Links, News
This will just make me follow your posts even closer. That way I can correct the disinformation quicker as a service to this website's visitors.Quote:
Originally Posted by speechlesstx
No problem, NK, stalk me all you want. I'm sure that's allowed in the rules somewhere.
Weiner is apparently worried about money if he resigns.
I reckon he should have worried abut that before he got camera happy.Quote:
Weiner has also complained to friends that he wasn’t sure how he would make a living if he were to leave Congress and its $174,000 annual salary. “He’s worried about money and how to pay his bills,” said a Democratic insider. “He’s very concerned about that.”
What ? He's been in Congress for over a decade... he must've accumulated a lot of pork rinds by now . Between him and his wife's income he falls into that rich category as defined by the President. He should be part of that group of millionaires that want to give away their money to the IRS .Quote:
Weiner is apparently worried about money if he resigns.
Apparently it takes a lot of American Express to stalk women, and he's never had a real job.
Naaahh ,all he has to do is give a call to CNN.Quote:
If he steps down, he could grovel to cable TV execs for talking-head "analyst" gigs that hopefully pay more than the $825 he gets for appearing on HBO's "Real Time with Bill Maher."
But with Weiner's reputation in ruins, other lucrative jobs may be hard to get.
Wouldn't that be great? Weiner seems a much more appropriate sidekick than Kathleen Parker.
I wish he were better looking.
He apparently thinks he's pretty hot.
Hello again,
As much as I support Weiners politics, I don't support HIM as a politician. It's time for him to resign.
excon
That goes without saying Ex but obviously from his actions he is not an honourable man
And until such time he should be stripped of any committee assignment .
NY doesn't have recall so that's off the table . Not sure his district would do that anyway. Last poll I saw ;even with this scandal ,he'd win a reelection.
If he refuses to resign the House should invoke Article 1 Sec 5 of the Constitution.
It is being reported at various sites that the Dems are reassigning the Representative's office personel . If he shows up for work today he may have no staff.
If he shows up for work today chances are his license plates are expired, and maybe not even on the right vehicle. Seems the Weiner man has failed to love his state enough to pay his registration fees for the past several years, and even borrowed some from another vehicle.Quote:
Originally Posted by tomder55
Rep. Anthony Weiner's Nissan Pathfinder is unregistered, DMV says
What a guy.Quote:
"Lying about sexting apparently isn't Rep. Anthony Weiner's only gray area.
When Weiner (D-Queens, Brooklyn) was photographed by the Daily News fleeing the Capitol in his Nissan Pathfinder, it was clear the July 2007 registration sticker in his window was expired, and there was no inspection sticker to be seen. Weiner, through a staffer, said the 1988 Nissan Pathfinder was registered in New York State.
Not so, said the state Department of Motor Vehicles.
The New York license plate bolted on Weiner's Pathfinder - US Congress 9 - had expired as of 2006, according to the DMV.
"That license plate should not be on a car," a DMV spokeswoman said. It wasn't even issued to the Pathfinder, but to another one of Weiner's cars, a Honda, according to vehicle records.
Valid plates were issued to Weiner's Pathfinder, but they don't have the helpful words "US Congress" on them, and so look less official. It's unclear what happened to those plates.
Driving a car with expired plates, let alone those pulled off another vehicle, meant Weiner's Pathfinder was unregistered, according to the DMV.
"Switching around license plates is what criminals do," noted a retired Brooklyn accident investigator. "If you are a congressman, you aren't supposed to be switching out your plates. I guess that's the least of his worries."
Are posts being deleted?
You know I have often wondered that!Quote:
Originally Posted by NeedKarma
I suppose that may depend on if they follow the guidelines.Quote:
Originally Posted by paraclete
Hello again:
Didja hear? Obama beats Weiner... Or is it Obama on Weiner??
excon
You sure that wasn't Obama eats weiner, I am so over this crap
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