No rush. No anxiety. It simply is curiosity as to who will bubble up out of the morass.
Hayley Barbour just struggled to the edge and got out and ran off to the showers.
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I was saying people change or adjust or revise or rethink their beliefs or even write papers to meet a need or please a prof or to be provocative or to satisfy the terms of an assignment. The papers have to be considered in that light. It's not a black-or-white issue as you want to make it: relevant or irrelevant.
It is not a given that people change... and how would we know that without the reference of a starting point ?
Hello again, you two:
The difference is that liberal people explore other schools of thought. Conservatives NEVER do. They grew up rigid, and they're STILL rigid.
excon
I guess that's what led me to conservatism .Well that and the fact that American leftwing liberalism was no longer defensible .Quote:
The difference is that liberal people explore other schools of thought.
American liberalism ;or more specific the Democrats took a radical turn starting with the McGovern candidacy. Before that people on the liberal side like JFK understood that you can't tax your way to prosperity ;and understood and embraced the US role in the world .
He's clearing the way for his close friend Mitch Daniels to enter the race. Barbour can help Daniels with the Southern vote ,and with his fund raising organization. I think it's a real good probability that the Republican will be a Northern Governor (or former Governor ). Romney has the edge currently with his organization. Daniels will be able to match him with Barbour's help. T Paw. Needs help. Right now that's my top tier if anyone asked me.Quote:
Hayley Barbour just struggled to the edge and got out and ran off to the showers
Hello again, Steve:
Works? WORKS?? Let me show you how it DOESN'T work...
Once upon a time there was this young Jewish Boy Scout from a liberal family. He was on a weekend trip with his troop when the Scoutmaster (the HEAD guy) told the scouts that he expected them to go to church... Of course, in this little town, there wasn't a synagogue, and even if there was, the service was on Saturday.
So, this young liberal Jewish boy went where the rest of the scouts went. When the guy in robes called everybody up front to take communion, the young Jewish scout went...
Now, I don't know if you can imagine the response to that boy from the RIGID SOB'S who ran the place, but I can tell you, it wasn't pretty. But, like David against Goliath, I stood my ground.
RIGID doesn't work.
excon
So far what works is the Green Chile Cheeseburgers.
Here it is... end of the silly birther issue . The President just released his long form birth cert. It shows he was born in Hawaii .
President Obama's Long Form Birth Certificate | The White House
Hello again, tom:
Like I said, the Trumpster doesn't think it's real... Big, mistake for Obama.
excon
Trump is a side-show
What will the Birthers think is wrong with the long-form birth certificate? Someone found a 1961 manual typewriter in a museum and used that? Will they compare the doctor's signature with his "real" ones?
Now all he has to produce is his certificate of circumcision, and maybe the Donald will want him to drop his pants on the Oprah show next week.
That ought to get some ratings.
Errrm, isn't it all a bit late and rather academic anyway.
Mr Obama was duly elected to serve as president and that is exactly what he is doing.
The press release that accompanied it said that the birth certificate topic has become divisive and the discussion so off-the-chart (i.e. by potential presidential candidate Trump). The intent is to steer public discussion to the important concerns of the economy, the wars, gas prices, etc.
Hello again,
The issue was NEVER about his birth certificate... To the birthers, it's about Obama not being one of us. This won't change that.
excon
Bwaaahaaaahaaaa . Then he got on the plane to interview with Oprah... so much for those important concerns.
He could've done this during the 2008 season .The reason he finally put the nonsense to rest is because of the polling data Ex mentioned... that the issue was gaining traction.
Probably right. But wait how much hay his campaign makes when they claim "they(bitter clingers ???) " are trying to fire the 1st Black President. Both sides play that card well.Quote:
Hello again,
The issue was NEVER about his birth certificate... To the birthers, it's about Obama not being one of us. This won't change that.
Excon
Hello again, tom:
There was a political consideration about this release, to be sure... I guess we'll see if it was the right calculation.. Frankly, I think they were ahead of the game when people like Krauthammer and Rove were calling Trump a clown. The Obama offense was being taken up by the stalwart GOP. He was winning by shutting up. He didn't need to chime in. Chiming in is playing defense...
Besides, if you were Obama, wouldn't you LOVE to run against Trump? They should have let that happen.
excon
Agreed . But my best guess is that Trump was/is not a candidate . I bet the ratings on his show is up.
Personally, I wish Trump and Obama would both go away. Now if we can just end this Trig truther crap we could move on.
He played into Obama's hand . I won't rest until Trump gone from the political scene . What does Trump and Obama have in common ? They both found common ground in attacking Paul Ryan last week .
Oh yeah... and they both supported Rhambo's mayor run.
What is Trump's plan for Medicare ? Slap tariffs on China ? He's a 'Smoot-Hawley' Republican .
Well has the matter been put beyond doubt? Or are we going to find out how this dumb black boy who rose to be president could possibily have been accepted into Harvard? Trump your racism is showing
That's true ex, I just read in my paper a week or so ago that we went to Iraq for the oil.
We know he's not a 'dumb black boy' (Clete's words ).. because Joe Biden told us he isn't .
“I mean, you got the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy,” ...“I mean, that’s a storybook, man.”
We did, Saddam had cut secret deals with France and Russia and it made W mad as all get out!!
Oil-for-Food Programme - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
BBC NEWS | Business | France's economic ties to Iraq
Bush's Pre-War Iraq Oil Deals Alarmed BP | Informed Comment
Bush didn't like Iraq cutting his own deals, and he was locked out of the money.
The rest is history, ongoing I might add.
So Bush didn't like the fact that the Europeans and Russians were violating the terms of the 'Oil for Food Program' that was destroying the sanction regime that they expected the US to enforce ?
Yep!!
... and the nations that were being enriched by violating the 'Oil for Food Program', that the corrupt Kofi Annan clan was administering,were also the nations that led the opposition to Operation Iraqi Freedom.
Yep!!
Hi ex Yes I heard that one, but the scary part is it happens to be true
Lets see the leading scientists of the hypothesis manipulated data to support a preconceived conclusion ;suppressed any evidence that ran counter to their hypothesis ,and then emailed each other bragging how they did it... no conspiracy there .
Follow the money!! Who gets the oil that the French and Russians were cut out of??
You guessed it George did, and Tony, and the Chinese are right in the thick of things.
Just because its not in the news anymore doesn't mean the war is over.
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