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  • Jan 15, 2011, 06:57 AM
    NeedKarma
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    Political Pundits Surprisingly Good At Getting Inside Mentally Unbalanced Shooter's Head

    January 14, 2011

    NEW YORK—According to media analysts, the nation's TV commentators and political pundits have proved uncannily accurate when describing the deeply disturbed inner thoughts of accused Arizona gunman Jared Loughner. "It's strange, but when it comes to getting inside the mind of this human being who seems to possess no empathy, sense of morality, or hold on reality, and who is motivated only by personal animus and self-glorification, the nation's major political pundits have been amazingly adept," said Horizon Media analyst Bob Cullen, who has studied extensive tape of commentators on all major TV news programs and found their remarks on "what the killer is thinking" to be consistently thorough and detailed across the board. "It's almost as though they have some way of knowing, firsthand, exactly what this demented and highly dangerous individual with the eyes of millions upon him is going through." Researchers at Horizon Media also reported that a number of prominent TV pundits appeared to be mimicking the exact same chilling gleam in Loughner's eye for what they could only speculate was "dramatic effect."



    ^^

    Above article article is from a satire website.
  • Jan 15, 2011, 09:24 AM
    speechlesstx

    There is no article above.
  • Jan 15, 2011, 09:28 AM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    There is no article above.

    The one you gave a link to and partially quoted from The Onion?
  • Jan 15, 2011, 12:03 PM
    speechlesstx

    Sigh...
  • Jan 15, 2011, 12:30 PM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    Sigh...

    ;)
  • Jan 15, 2011, 12:37 PM
    excon

    Hello:

    Can we get back to some incivility, please?

    excon
  • Jan 15, 2011, 12:47 PM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by excon View Post
    Hello:

    Can we get back to some incivility, please?

    excon

    :o

    If there were a choice of a smilie with a tongue sticking out, I wudda used that.
  • Jan 15, 2011, 04:09 PM
    speechlesstx

    OK, so what's up with Pelosi calling the massacre a "tragic accident?" Can't these darn liberals make up their mind what the hell is what?
  • Jan 15, 2011, 04:19 PM
    paraclete
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by excon View Post
    Hello:

    Can we get back to some incivility, please?

    excon

    How uncivil would you like it to be?

    Up you nose with a rubber hose?

    Would you like bruises with that?

    Yellow liberal backstabbing procrastinator?
  • Jan 17, 2011, 06:59 AM
    tomder55

    Suddenly; when they don't have the majority ,the Dems think it's a swell idea to co-mingle with the Republicans during the upcoming State of the Union Address.

    Now that they don't have the majority they want to tone down the language and are calling on the Republicans to compromise .

    Where was this new tone when the President told the Republicans in Congress "I won" when they wanted a seat at the table when crafting the 'stimulus 'package?
  • Jan 17, 2011, 07:16 AM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    ^^

    Above article article is from a satire website.

    Thanks for helping us out with the obvious.
  • Jan 17, 2011, 07:19 AM
    excon
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    Suddenly; when they don't have the majority ,the Dems think it's a swell idea to co-mingle with the Republicans during the upcoming State of the Union Address.

    Hello again, tom:

    Screw co-mingling right along with civility. The problem is talk of gun play - not calling your neighbor an a$$hole. We should STOP the talk of gun play, but calling your neighbor an a$$hole is a wonderful idea. Having him sit next to you just means you don't have to yell it as loudly.

    excon
  • Jan 17, 2011, 07:51 AM
    tomder55

    Ban metaphors!! The politically correct demand it. I think POTUS should lead by example.
  • Jan 17, 2011, 02:30 PM
    paraclete
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    Where was this new tone when the President told the Republicans in Congress "I won" when they wanted a seat at the table when crafting the 'stimulus 'package?

    Time to move on Tom. Politics has the unhappy habit of raking over the coals of past triumphs and defeats rather than moving on and bringing a fresh perspective to a problem. You have heard the word bipartisan, there is a place for such an approach at certain times even though it is not often applied in times of a clear majority. There is a somewhat foolish idea that the rhetoric and partisanism of an election campaign must be continued after the result instead of a cooperative effort to solve problems and implement solutions. This idea no doubt stems from british roots and is not only evident in your political arena but also in mine and it can culminate in the insane following through to do the unthinkable
  • Jan 19, 2011, 12:46 PM
    smoothy

    Democrats talking about civility... boy that's a good one...


    After 10 years of them blaming Bush for everything including their own Body odor... and their Incessant bashing of Sarah Palin for the AZ shooting, with ZERO evidence at all... and it does turn out it was a left leaning Right hating Lunatic that did it... which everyone knew on DAY one... but after all, the Democrats have never let the facts get in the way of slandering and Libeling everyone to the right of communist. Blood Libel is EXACTLY what the Democrats and their minions in the drive by media committed against her... by the very definition of that term.

    Yeah... Civility... they need to look up the definition of the word... its clear they don't grasp its true meaning.
  • Jan 19, 2011, 01:11 PM
    NeedKarma
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by smoothy View Post
    Yeah...Civility......they need to look up the definition of the word....its clear they don't grasp its true meaning.

    You mean like your posts? Is that a good example?
  • Jan 19, 2011, 01:40 PM
    smoothy
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    You mean like your posts? Is that a good example?

    I give what I get... when I see real civility from the real left for a change... I might show some back. (I however am NOT holding my breath)
  • Jan 19, 2011, 01:50 PM
    NeedKarma
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by smoothy View Post
    I give what I get......

    So only you are allowed to do that? Can others do that too? Would that be OK by you?
  • Jan 19, 2011, 02:47 PM
    tomder55

    The Dems demonstrated their civility on the House floor today .

    Democrat invokes Nazis to slam GOP on health care - On Politics: Covering the US Congress, Governors, and the 2012 Election - USATODAY.com
  • Jan 19, 2011, 03:28 PM
    speechlesstx

    But tom, he was taken out of context and "only about a minute of his 10-minute remarks mentioned Nazis and the Holocaust." :rolleyes:

    I guess he also missed the parts about telling us if we liked our doctor and our insurance we could keep it, over and over and over we were told.
  • Jan 19, 2011, 03:46 PM
    NeedKarma
    What's wrong with invoking nazis?
  • Jan 19, 2011, 04:03 PM
    tomder55

    I have no problem with it .

    But I'm not the one calling for civility .

    I'm also not the one who made a big stink when Palin said the accusations against her, that putting surveyor signs on a map inspired the actions of the Az shooter, was a 'blood libel'.
  • Jan 19, 2011, 04:14 PM
    NeedKarma
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    I have no problem with it .

    Good, another non-issue.

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    I'm also not the one who made a big stink when Palin said the accusations against her, that putting surveyor signs on a map inspired the actions of the Az shooter, was a 'blood libel'.

    Your support of her is puzzling. Most likely due to blind partisan support.
  • Jan 19, 2011, 04:22 PM
    smoothy
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    So only you are allowed to do that? Can others do that too? Would that be ok by you?

    Hey... after 10 years of BS and flat out lies from the left... the Republicans are entitled to dish some of it back...

    After WE give it to them for 10 more years... in the spirit of parity of course... then lets have the discussion.
  • Jan 19, 2011, 04:27 PM
    smoothy
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    Good, another non-issue.

    Your support of her is puzzling. Most likely due to blind partisan support.

    Much like your blind partizan support of the Messiah... and belief of anything your handlers in the DNC tell you to believe.


    Incidentally... We are STILL waiting from any proof or apologies from ANY of the lefet wing loons and so called "Journalists" of ANYTHING that indicates the pot smoker shooter had ANY affiliations at all with any right leaning group at all...


    When his own (the Arizona Shooter) internet rants were clearly far leftist... his readings were socilalist AND communist... and he has a publicly diseminated rant against Bush... you know... just like the majority of the left.

    Totally absent ANY supporting evidence at all as usual.

    And of course Arah Palin never uttered a single WORD.. until after 7 days of the democrats and the so called "Jounalists" accusing her of being at fault... again... completely lacking any shred of evidence... a true definition of a Blood Libel if there ever was one... strickingly identical to the NAZIS claims about the Jews...

    And Sarah Palin has shown more Maturity... and class than Obama and the entire political left has combined, Particularly the last two weeks. And is far more deserving of respect than the fool at 1600 Pensylvania that's sucking up to the Chinese leader... likely asking for tips from the chinese on how to get away with violating the rights of people without that inconvienient obsticle to his agenda called the Constitution and the Bill of Rights.


    And incidentally... if the right would have ANYTHING to do with shooting anyone... it wouldn't have been in Arizona with a Blue dog Democrat... it would have been someplace in California. But then, Republicans aren't into assainations... its lefties that do that.

    Regans Shooter was a leftie... JFK's shooter was a lefty... So was Robert Kennediys and MLK's.
  • Jan 19, 2011, 04:33 PM
    excon
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by smoothy View Post
    Totally absent ANY supporting evidence at all as usual..

    Hello again, smoothy:

    I guess you missed my thread about Sharron Angel when she gave PERMISSION for shooters to take out politicians they didn't like... THAT'S evidence, but you don't care much about stuff like that...

    excon
  • Jan 19, 2011, 04:38 PM
    smoothy
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by excon View Post
    Hello again, smoothy:

    I guess you missed my thread about Sharron Angel when she gave PERMISSION for shooters to take out politicians they didn't like.... THAT'S evidence, but you don't care much about stuff like that....

    excon

    I know this concept is difficult for a Democrat to grasp...


    Show ANY proof the Shooter was not a leftie... as the actual evidence does prove. Show ANY tie to the right... at all... you can't there was none at all.

    Otherwise you are blowing smoke out of your bunghole like the idiots that pretend to be journalists. Who are well aware they were violating Slander AND Libel laws... repeatedly. Some of them both at the same time.
  • Jan 19, 2011, 04:40 PM
    NeedKarma
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by smoothy View Post
    Much like your blind partizan support of the Messiah...

    Why do you write lies all the time? That just makes you look like an idiot.
  • Jan 19, 2011, 04:42 PM
    smoothy
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    Why do you write lies all the time? That just makes you look like an idiot.

    Look in the mirror before you start slinging names...

    Hey... YOU are the one who made the comment first...

    Show any shred of proof that Sarah Palin was not repeatedly slandered and Libels the last two weeks alone... and that she doesn't have grounds to sue them all and becone the richest Female in the USA.


    Because... if it was me... lawsuits would be filed... and I'd be living a life of luxury at their expense from here on out.
  • Jan 19, 2011, 05:14 PM
    excon

    Hello again, smoothy:

    There's proof that he was a Sharron Angle fan.. He watched her videos ALL day... Sharron Angle said it's OK to SHOOT people if you don't agree with them... So, he did.

    excon
  • Jan 19, 2011, 05:49 PM
    smoothy
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by excon View Post
    Hello again, smoothy:

    There's proof that he was a Sharron Angle fan.. He watched her videos ALL day... Sharron Angle said it's ok to SHOOT people if you don't agree with them.... So, he did.

    excon

    Exactly what body orifice did you pull that info from?


    This nutcase has had a gripe against her, and has been stalking her.. (he was no fan of hers much less anyone else to her political right)... for LONGER than the TeaParty has existed... yet your fellow lefties that pretend to be journalists accused the Tea Party and Sarah Palin for being responsible for over 11 days now... we are still awaiting their admission that like most of their other so called news... was pulled out of their collective rectums. And awaiting the lefts apologies to All conservatives for their false claims, slander, Libel and defamation they have committed. And Specifically to Sarah Palin as most was directed at her specifically. Of course... that is assuming any of them have any self respect, or manners. We already know they ( the lefties in the drive by media circus) lack common sense or the ability to determine reality from fantasy..
  • Jan 19, 2011, 05:52 PM
    excon
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by smoothy View Post
    Exactly what body orifice did you pull that info from?

    Hello again, smoothy:

    The same place you pull yours from.

    excon
  • Jan 19, 2011, 08:06 PM
    tomder55

    The evidence is that the Kossaks said so .
    Truth be told ,he so admirers Thomas Jefferson that he took Jefferson's words literally .

    And what country can preserve its liberties, if its rulers are not
    warned from time to time, that this people preserve the spirit of
    resistance? Let them take arms. The remedy is to set them right as
    to the facts, pardon and pacify them. What signify a few lives lost
    in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from
    time to time, with the blood of patriots and tyrants.
    It is its natural manure."
  • Jan 19, 2011, 08:14 PM
    excon

    Hello tom:

    I'm a patriot. I'm a believer in Thomas Jefferson... What he said is right on... I have no problem taking up arms against the government...

    But, if you attack unarmed civilians instead of the military, you're just another scumbag terrorist...

    excon
  • Jan 19, 2011, 08:18 PM
    tomder55

    What's the difference between Angle's comments and Jefferson's ?
  • Jan 19, 2011, 08:33 PM
    excon

    Hello again, tom:

    Jefferson was speaking in the abstract. He and I agree about the government... If one were influenced by Jefferson, one would attack an army base.

    But, Angle was speaking about a specific race, and a specific person, and the things somebody could specifically DO to that person IF they didn't like the outcome of the race. If one were influenced by Angle, one would shoot politicians.

    excon
  • Jan 19, 2011, 09:11 PM
    paraclete
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    The evidence is that the Kossaks said so .
    Truth be told ,he so admirers Thomas Jefferson that he took Jefferson's words literally .

    And what country can preserve its liberties, if its rulers are not
    warned from time to time, that this people preserve the spirit of
    resistance? Let them take arms. The remedy is to set them right as
    to the facts, pardon and pacify them. What signify a few lives lost
    in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from
    time to time, with the blood of patriots and tyrants.
    It is its natural manure."

    That is certainly manure
  • Jan 20, 2011, 03:25 AM
    tomder55

    Ex , The Jeffersonians and Jefferson himself were admirers of the French Revolution.Many of them had replicas of guillotines that they kept on their desks and book shelves .

    Jefferson did literally mean what he said in the quote. You speak of the loss of innocence .But Jefferson defended the loss during the French Revolution saying in his famous 'Adam and Eve letter '


    It was necessary to use the arm of the people, a machine not quite so blind as balls and bombs, but blind to a certain degree. A few of their cordial friends met at their hands, the fate of enemies. But time and truth will rescue and embalm their memories, while their posterity will be enjoying that very liberty for which they would never have hesitated to offer up their lives. The liberty of the whole earth was depending on the issue of the contest, and was ever such a prize won with so little innocent blood? My own affections have been deeply wounded by some of the martyrs to this cause, but rather than it should have failed, I would have seen half the earth desolated. Were there but an Adam and an Eve left in every country, and left free, it would be better than as it now is.

    Nothing abstract in that .
  • Jan 20, 2011, 05:39 AM
    smoothy
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by excon View Post
    Hello again, smoothy:

    The same place you pull yours from.

    excon

    Really... What I said has already been proven... and its on video from the stoners ex-college clasmates and people that knew him... but the lefty slanderers and Libelers didn't present it because it showed what liars and hypocrites they were... YOUR claims and theirs however have had zero proof put forth.


    Huge difference there... What I said is proven, and has been so publicly since it happened... what YOU said is pure propaganda, and no proof has yet been presented to anyone...
  • Jan 20, 2011, 05:43 AM
    NeedKarma
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by smoothy View Post
    What I said has already been proven.....and its on video from the stoners ex-college clasmates adn people that knew him

    Could you link us to that post please?

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