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Brisbane Lawyer Expects To Be Fired For Burning Koran And Bible
A Bribane academic was not content that people in the US had all the fun with the burning Quoran debate, he put his own twist on it and rolled and smoked joints using both the Bible and the Quoran. He said he preferred the Bible and now Muslims are up in arms. Now this is putting US-Australian solidarity at a new level and I ask is he endangering Australian troops by doing this?
The examples are too numerous to qoute... pages after page after page in fact.Quote:
Originally Posted by NeedKarma
The entire argument defending the Ground Zero Mosque is EXACTLY that. Pick any.
The existing structure at that site was damaged heavily directly BY parts of one of the two jets that hit the WTC towers first (specifically the landing gear). This makes that site ground zero as well.
So much for your argument, Run along now.
Well, it was a dumb question that would require linking at least 50% of the posts in a thread that was pages long... and you know it.Quote:
Originally Posted by NeedKarma
And the post was about the Memorial Mosque a radical Imam wants to build at ground zero... YOUR arguments about how they had a right to do it was among them.
Hello again,Quote:
Originally Posted by excon
Tick tock...
excon
What "you guys?" I am me and me alone and which side is it that you take?Quote:
Originally Posted by NeedKarma
How about speaking out against Liberals that would hand over the USA to Sharia Law by surrendering to the Islamic Terrorists.
YOu either Fight them or subject yourself to their demands... there are no other alternatives.
Wait until they target the west coast... THEN you might understand when it hits close to hiome for you rahter than 5,000 miles away.
Hello again, smoothy:Quote:
Originally Posted by smoothy
Uhhh... It's 3,000, but don't let facts get in your way.
excon
Really... where is this vitriol when it comes to Saudi Arabia and what they do to non-muslims just to single out a single country (they aren't alone in this).Quote:
Originally Posted by paraclete
Actually I'm glad that guy did it... maybe you will see the differnce between Muslims and Christians. You won't see the Vatican sending suicide bombers, they might pray for him instead... but listen to the Muslims acting like the lunatics most of them are. And he makes his point very effectively.
Seriously take a step back and read what the reactions were to a stack of paper with words on it.
Tell me that is either rational or reasonible?
See if I wanted to do that, I have a legal right ( I don't however smoke anything, except for certain food items that are tastey smoked), I do not know if in Australia he has the same legal rights granted in your constitution.
My knowledge of the Aussie legal system and the rights one has there are not at all very extensive
First of all I don't live here so this is the first I've seen your challenge.Quote:
Originally Posted by excon
Who said that? I've never said that. I think most of the hate in this country is on the left. It has little or nothing to do with Muslims, moderate or not.Quote:
Originally Posted by excon View Post
Rightwingers believe that the reason hate is spreading throughout America is because MODERATE Muslims do NOT speak up against Islamofacism.
Don't think I've ever said that either, but silence on Islamic terrorism speaks volumes.Quote:
Apparently, if they DON'T speak out against it, YOU believe they're FOR it.
You're doing a fine job. I typically don't read his posts but I did call one of his hunts a waste of time. But you let me know when Smoothy fails to speak out against Christian fascism and I'll say something.Quote:
I'm WAITING for any of our resident rightwingers to speak out against smoothy... Tick tock...
Exactly... I have no more tollernace for Louis Farikhan and his followers than I do for the KKK or the Jehovah Witnesses than I do radical Islam.Quote:
Originally Posted by speechlesstx
WHen Christians start sending out suicide bombers like so many Muslim Imams do, I'll be on the forfront of those calling for the end to it.
But the underlying message ex and the left has they won't openly say is summerd up in this quote.
"Freedom of speech for ME, but not for thee"
Hello again, Steve:Quote:
Originally Posted by speechlesstx
Thanks for addressing it.
Nahhh. You didn't say it. But, OTHER rightwingers do - like the LEADERS of your party. Newt, said it on FOX News Sunday. You can see it here.
Look, it's OK if you want to give smoothy a pass. You are not obligated to defend his craziness - just like the Muslim living on your corner ISN'T obligated to defend craziness, no matter WHAT the Newtster says.
excon
You should know that knowledge of a crime before its committed makes you an accompliss to that crime if you remain silent.
And many muslims are aware of the radical element among them... but choose to remain silent, because they respect the Muslim radical more than any non-muslim that might be harmed.
They are taught this in Islam.
Far more know and stay silent than actually do the right thing and pass on information.
And many people call defending Terrorists, and otehrs who break the laws as craziness. Not those who defend the laws and follow them.
After all, yet again you prove my point that to the core beliefs of the left... nobody has less rights than American Conservatives have.
Let's see, he doesn't have the right to smoke weed and he has provided video evidence of breaking the law, as far as I know there is no law about burning the Bible or the Quoran in this manner but he has placed the university in disrepute so that would be a breach of contract and if there were riots as a result he might be charged with encitement, etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by smoothy
He is fortunate he didn't do it further south or some Muslim idiot might have decided he needed killing.. They have taken it somewhat calmly
We have rights we didn't need to spell out in a Bill of Rights and our Consititution was modelled on yours but with a hundred and twenty years of hindsight, It has rarely been amended
Hello again, smoothy:Quote:
Originally Posted by smoothy
The craziness is that you make up stuff as you go along. The craziness is your hate.
We've been here before, though. You are NOT original. But, this is such a great country, that we've overcome your kind of hatred and bigotry before. We've remained an INCLUSIVE nation... We will continue... You are a relic.
excon
If he actually broke laws... then yeah... he might get called on it. If he was a lawyer, he should have known what he could and could not get away with. Unless he really WANTS arrested to make a point in court.Quote:
Originally Posted by paraclete
As far as Universities... around here, many are known as hangouts for the lunatic fringe on the left that can't get real jobs. Californias Berkely Campus being #1 on the list.
Can't comment on any Aussie Universities. I really know or have even heard little about any of them.
Problem many on the left tend to forget... freedom of speech doesn't mean they can say anything they want and be free from anyone contradicting them... or be free from hearing viewpoints they might not like.
But there are Laws on the books (here in the USA) about aiding criminal actions... even if prior knowledge of an event that they remained silent about is a crime. People can and have been sent to jail for it.
Funny how the people acting like idiots complaining about someone TALKING about burning a Koran... or in the case you mentioned using pages as a reefer wrapper, were strangely Silent with some loons that Call themselves artists, fashion a Jesus Christ on a Cross from human and animal excrement and urine and call it art... and defend THAT as free speech.
But in the next breath... just talking about burning a book is reprehensible...
And they think they are the only logical people with those thoughts?
I didn't watch but if the transcript is accurate, and I have no reason to believe it isn't, he said nothing of the sort.Quote:
Originally Posted by excon
Well? I missed whatever it was he was supposed to have said.Quote:
WALLACE: Finally, and we've only got less than two minutes left -- you enjoyed that. It was a pretty funny line.
Let's talk about the mosque near ground zero and the threat to burn Korans this week. You say if the president was willing to call out the pastor about the Korans, he should be willing to call out in equally strong terms the imam about the mosque.
GINGRICH: It doesn't even have to be strong -- but first of all, I'm totally opposed to burning the Koran. I think every religious person should have a deep sense of respect for other people's religious documents and religious symbols just as we were deeply opposed to the Taliban destroying the two historic buddhas which they blew up. So I think we ought to all oppose burning the Koran.
Second, all the president has to do is something mild. He could just say publicly, "They shouldn't build it there." Now, that shouldn't be that painful for him. But the truth is he's unwilling to say that. And that's unfortunate because it's a very bad idea to build that mosque and center that close to ground zero.
And it is the opposite of what Imam Rauf says it is. It is, in fact, an affront to virtually all the families who lost loved ones at 9/11.
WALLACE: Speaker Gingrich, we want to thank you, as always, for coming in and talking with us. Always good to talk to you, sir.
And we want to note the speaker and his wife Calista host a new documentary called "America at Risk: The War With No Name" which can be found at the Website on the screen.
I would hope the Muslim on the corner isn't obligated to defend craziness, but I do hope he is courageous enough to condemn Islamofascism. And as I said, if Smoothy fails to speak out against Christian fascism you let me know.Quote:
Look, it's OK if you want to give smoothy a pass. You are not obligated to defend his craziness - just like the Muslim living on your corner ISN'T obligated to defend craziness, no matter WHAT the Newtster says.
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Originally Posted by speechlesstx
Hello again, Steve:Quote:
Originally Posted by speechlesstx
You're right. I thought it was Sunday. I was wrong. I'll find it though. I DON'T make up stuff.
I'm bummed that you're not as courageous as you think your Muslim neighbor should be. By the way, if you DIDN'T say it before, you just did. YOUR silence on the issue SPEAKS volumes, too.
excon
You defend illegals that break the laws... you defend terrorists who want to erect a Victory Mosque on ground Zero to honor the 9/11 terrorists, you defend artices that defame Christ with isplays showing him on a Cross fashioned out of excrement and urine... and call that free speech.Quote:
Originally Posted by excon
But threaten to burn a stack of paper and you like the Muslims go bonkers and you call US crazy? Draw a cartoon of Mohammed and they send the exicution squad to kill you. Yeah... I have trouble grasping how anyone can call THAT normal and reasonible behaviour, and clearly you do it you call US crazy. NO Christian killed that degenerate that created that so called "Art". The same can't be said about the Murdered Cartoonist or Salmon Rusdie who lives in hiding.
Sorry, but your believef might be at home in Berkley or San Francisco, but they are woefully out of tough in most of America.
Bigotry is Islam... Ignorance is refusing to see what Islam stands for and teaches, and has for 1,300 years, its well documented, ignore the lessons of history at your own peril..
You may have a closet Islam Fetish... I however am a Christian and will be until the day I die. And incidentally... I WILL take as many of them out as possible rather than convert by force, which is what they do every place they develop a critical mass. I would rather die a Christian fighting for my beliefs than convert to Islam, either by force or threats of force much less voluntarily.
You again are attacking Christianity while defending Islam and its oppression.
Its Islam that can't peacefully coexist with other faiths... Not Christianity.
Silence on what? I don't know exactlky what you want me to speak out against, but the way you've framed it is, Smoothy doesn't speak out against the flip side of Islamic fascism so I should speak out against Smoothy. I can only assume you're referring to Christian fascism and I was unaware that it was a problem. If it isn't a problem, why should speak out against Smoothy for something for which he has no reason to speak out? See how logical I am?Quote:
Originally Posted by excon
If on the other hand, you just want me to speak out against bigoted, hateful, so-called Christians like Jones and Phelps I have, I am, and I will continue to do so. Otherwise, I see you and Smoothy handling things just fine between you. If he's THAT bad, I'm sure the mods at AMHD will put an end to it and meanwhile, I'll continue to speak for myself on this particular forum and let others do the same.
Its clear he doesn't believe in the First Amendment rights... he feels they ONLY apply to the left and nobody else has the right to an opinion.
Typical Democrat stratagy. When you lose an argument you pull the race card and start making false claims.
Dan Rather Got caught doing that when George Bush couldn't be caught doing something the left tried to accuse him of... so he created fake evidence and got caught.
Personaly, unlike the lefts stance of "Freedom of speech for me, NOT for thee"... they can rant all they want... I don't try to silence them like they want to silence me. And that's a HUGE difference between us.
People 5,000 miles from ground zero can't possibly understand 9/11 like someone who was there, almost died or saw it with their own eyes WITHOUT a TV or radio that day will.
That's no different than someone "Understanding" what a victim of violent crime or rape feels by watching it on TV.
Sorry... NOT the same thing, TV only conveys images and sound... nobody that wasn't there can understand it the same way someone who was can.
You can't understand Combat like a Veteran does if you only watch war movies either.
Who is trying to silence you?Quote:
Originally Posted by smoothy
Everyone here that's complaining about me having an opinion they don't want to hear.Quote:
Originally Posted by NeedKarma
And you want to hear opinions that aren't the same as yours?Quote:
Originally Posted by smoothy
You're listening -- and still positing. No one has stopped you.
We're listening -- and still posting. You haven't stopped us.
It's the American way.
Hello again, smoothy:Quote:
Originally Posted by smoothy
You got it WRONG again, but I'm used to that. Nobody is complaining about your opinion. In fact, I'm GLAD you're posting the tripe you post. It shows you for what you really are - a racist. Plus, I agree with you, MOST of America feels the same way you do. I'm also glad that you don't hide. You're right out front with your racism, although you deny that's what it is. But, most people can read...
Now there are some people on the right who say that MODERATE Muslims should speak UP against terrorism, and if they DON'T, the right wingers think they AGREE with the terrorists. So, I thought I would call out the wingers HERE, to see if they'd speak up against your racism, because if one were to use THEIR logic, if one DOESN'T speak out against it, one AGREES with it.
One person did speak out. Good for KP. The rest of them are silent. That's just so. Just as silent as the Muslims THEY think SHOULD be speaking...
Now, I KNOW you aren't going to understand what I just said... That's fine.
excon
I wasn't the one complaining someone had an opposing positoion.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wondergirl
Not naming names... but I wasn't the one, wasn't you either. You have to read back through the thread and figure it out.
Our Universities, excepting for Sydney or La Trobe, are places for hard working students to get their degrees and get on with it. We don't have the college system you do so our students, excepting for political science, don't get the opportunity to learn to be lay about trouble makers, can't say the same for the lecturers. Our trade union movement appears to be the hangout for the lunatic left thus the reason why so many graduate to become politiciansQuote:
Originally Posted by smoothy
I'm not the one throwing the race card around like Obama has... or the Democrat party in General.Quote:
Originally Posted by excon
Oh It's abundently clear what you said... Everyone who has a backbone and stands up to Illegals that cross our border without permission, Terrorists that think they have a right to build memorials to Mohammed Attah and his band of merry buttmunchers, Anyone who objects to the lunatic fringe on the left demanding we hand over most of our money to support the lazy SOB's who are too lazy to work their way into better jobs, the LAZY SOB's on welfare that think they are entoitled to have as many babies as they want and the taxpayers HAVE to support them all because the fathers won't do it... The Lunatic fringe on the left that thinks Illegals are entitled to educations and free health care on the dime of those of uswho actually work and actually pay taxes, something most Liberals DON'T do...
Just because the left can't grasp the Concept they got a total IDIOT elected to the office of president and even after almost 2 years in office, those same left wing Lunatics blame George Bush for every stupid thing they have done even though he as been out of pulic office just as long...
That same lunatic Fringe to still believe theoir Messiah has done absolutely nothing wrong even though unemployment rates have nearly doubled with no end in sight, and they the Democrats bought off their political supporters with 1.5 TRILLION of taxpayers money...
Ever wonder why Lehman Brothers was refused bailout by Obamas gang? Really? Look it up... it was the ONLY wall street firm that gave more to republicans than to democrats... the info is out there...
If you actually have the Gonads to call ME a rascist... that proves you neither have the mental capicty to understand that term... or the fact you really have no respect for most americans.
I am steering to the fact that BOTH are true.
Because You just proved what is true in general with Democrats... when they are losing a campaign or argument, they pull out the race card and start the name calling.
If I'm a rascist for saying Illegals should be thrown out of this country...
THen you are a lover of Child molesters and Murderers... Because more than a few of those Illegals You love so well have done this in MY state as well as others..
Just so you know... because YOU and others of your ilk, defend the right of Illegal criminals to be here, you have the blood of rape victims... molested Children... and innocent families who have had family members killed by illegals driving drunk... without a license... and without insurance to attempt to compensate for their losses.
And you know what, I hope you sleep well at night knowing you had a part in that... because I don't lose a minutes sleep for expecting them to follow the laws in the country.
YOU seem to be the person most quick to start in with the name calling and personal attacks, there are a lot of names I can call you in response, but know what, I'm not stooping that low.
Rascist? Get real man... look the word up and find out what it means.
Better yet, I did it for you...
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And contrary to your beliefs... Islam is not a race. The US Constitution means I don't have to even LIKE Islam... and Islam has no business dictating or threatening us if they don't get what they want people are going to die.
You may wish to read the definition of bigot and look in a mirror.
Any issues I may or may not have with KP... I talk with KP about. He's a big enough man to speak for himself.
Read the definition or racist... nowhere in there does it say... " those who hate criminal activity, including illegals that violate border laws" or anything to that effect.
I am owed an appology for you calling me a rascist.
It really shows when the lefties don't even have the conviction of what they preach to pay for their own initiatives... they exempt themselves and expect the rest of us to finance them.
I may not agree with Ed Begley or Darryl Hannah, but they at least practice what they preach, and I respect them more for doing it... unlike most people on the left.
Hello again, smoothy:Quote:
Originally Posted by smoothy
Ok, you're not a racist. You're an Islamaphobe, a Hispanaphobe and a homophobe. Feel better?
excon
Same guy who said:Quote:
Originally Posted by smoothy
Quote:
Originally Posted by smoothy
Unlike YOU excon, I have a legitimate and good reason to hate Islam... THEY tried to kill me just because I'm American... on 9/11. THat doesn't make me a rascist... it means I have a brain and doen't confuse what they were really doing with the politically Correct explanation whatever that might be. I didn't run and hide like so many liberals did in Vietnam... it made me want retribution.
When was the last time a Conservative strapped on bombs or Flew Planes into liberal landmarks to commit mass murder?
Unlike YOU who hates just to hate, I have a justified reason for my disdain for law breakers and Islamists that want a Victory Mosque on ground Zero.
You were safely in your bed on 9/11 5,000 miles from the closest target. Of Course you won't grasp what that means to those of us that were near, or IN a target that morning.
I suppose you will be celibrating in the streets if and when Iran attacks Isreal?
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Originally Posted by smoothy
Hello again, smoothy:Quote:
Originally Posted by excon
I posted this on the other thread. It's worth posting it again.
excon
You like most liberals don't have a clue...Quote:
Originally Posted by excon
Nobody tried to kill anyone on the west coast, OR the Midwest for that matter... YOU weren't there, YOU weren't almost killed, YOU don't have any business lecturing someone who was.
I'd love to see you try that argument on the streets of Manhattan... at any police barraks, or fire station. You'd see a beatdown From the receiving end worse than Mike Tyson taking on Woody Allen.
Maybe their next attempt will be on the left coast instead of the four on the east coast last time... maybe that will shock you and everyone that sympathizes with them back into reality. You don't honestly believe they are done yet, do you? You can thank the Military, FBI, NSA and the CIA for the fact they haven't pulled it off again yet.
Next time you get robbed... it isn't about you, they were only after the stuff after all.
Hello again, smoothy:Quote:
Originally Posted by smoothy
Let me be CLEAR. YOU AIN'T SPECIAL! To think, that they attacked smoothy, and NOT excon, is just plain ridiculous.
excon
Gee... I was in the Pentagon that morning, the TWO guys I worked with all night begged me to stay after shift change and explain to their shift relief and their Supervisor what the problem was... they both Died. THe ONLY reason I wasn't was because I had what could be called a preomonition, anxiety attack or whatever, but that was the LAST place I wanted to be any longer that morning.Quote:
Originally Posted by excon
Its never happened before... its never happened since.
Excon was sleeping in Bed 5,000 miles away and didn't even know what happened until sometime later...
I was there you wasn't... but you argue it wasn't about me at all, Well it was... what it wasn't about was you because you were thousands of miles away in bed.
Hmmmmmmm...
Your argument doesn't pass legal muster.
If YOU were standing in a bank branch in a teller line, Some deranged fellow who's house was forclosed upon by a Bank of that name comes in shooting and kills people around you.
What would that person have standing to file assult with attempt to kill charges against the shooter, if it was about the bank... and not the customeras in the branch?
Sorry smoothy, reading your posts for a while makes me doubt that you would be the type that would be working at the Pentagon.
Where on earth do you think he lived??Quote:
Originally Posted by smoothy
Where were you during Vietnam?Quote:
I was there you wasn't...
You know... if you have seen a fraction of the things I've seen the last 25 years but can't talk about because of non-disclosure agreements I think you too would view things differently. Before 25 years ago when I started to see what really happens vs what you see on the news reports... I was once a liberal too.Quote:
Originally Posted by NeedKarma
There s a list of places I can't travel to and things I can't talk about... and since I don't need to be on the hot seat... I have to err on the side of caution about what I do say about a lot of things... and limit it to what I know is widespread public knowledge (IE been in the news), yes I actually do check sometimes when I don't know if its been on TV.
You can't un-see things... you can't change the past.
And even worse... you can't always talk about everything you see or know. Ever think of how frustrating THAT can be sometimes?
And seriously... do I wish 9/11 never happened? More than you know, being that close to being killed yourself does effect you, it effects everyone that has been there.
Incidentally... I was never a Pentagon employee... I was there doing undisclosed technical work as a contractor, and I am and have been called to go in all hours of the day or night. And I've been in and out of there hundreds of times over the last 16 years. Places no tour group ever goes... nor do any but a fairly select group. And know what, I STILL can't find my way around in that place... it's HUGE.
Where was I during Vietnam? Just for an FYI, I'm 49, well I will be in a little more than a month, I was in the 8th grade when the Fall of Saigon happened on April 30, 1975 The 74-75 school year. I was 13 over 6 months from turning 14... a bit young to have been drafted or even enlisted.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wondergirl
Excon has said he lives in Washington State... but has eluded to California. Exactly what county and City I don't have a clue.
Back then excon et al. fought in 'Nam to keep this country safe so you could grow up and have rights.Quote:
Originally Posted by smoothy
Well, if he was in the continental U.S. during 9/11/01, he definitely wasn't 5,000 miles away, but more like half of that or less.Quote:
Excon has said he lives [on the Left Coast]
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