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  • Oct 9, 2009, 08:40 AM
    ETWolverine
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by spitvenom View Post
    I think the Taliban and the GOP should file a joint complaint to the Noble people. Then next year Richard Steele or Hakimullah Mehsud can get nominated. Or maybe the Noble people will award both of them with the Peace prize for working together. Think about it!

    Spitvenom,

    Are you arguing that the Nobel Peace Committee's choice to award Obama the Prize is a good one? Do you believe that Obama has earned the Prize? If so, what is your justification or reasoning for that opinion? What actions has he taken that have earned him that award? More importantly, what actions had he taken at the time that he was nominated that had earned him the award?

    Elliot
  • Oct 9, 2009, 08:42 AM
    spitvenom

    I don't give a Sh&t to be completely honest with you. I just think it's great how much it has gotten your panties in a bunch.
  • Oct 9, 2009, 08:47 AM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by spitvenom View Post
    I don't give a Sh&t to be completely honest with you. I just think it's great how much it has gotten your panties in a bunch.

    It hasn't gotten in my panties, I'm not the least bit surprised. I just wondered what did he accomplish to deserve it? And by the way, you're using the DNC's talking point for today. :D

    Now, will Braylon Edwards be the man, did he bring more hope to Jets fans?
  • Oct 9, 2009, 08:51 AM
    ETWolverine
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by spitvenom View Post
    I don't give a Sh&t to be completely honest with you. I just think it's great how much it has gotten your panties in a bunch.

    So... what you seem to be saying is that we're right, but you just want to get our goats.

    OK.

    You win.

    Elliot
  • Oct 9, 2009, 08:52 AM
    NeedKarma
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by spitvenom View Post
    I don't give a Sh&t to be completely honest with you. I just think it's great how much it has gotten your panties in a bunch.

    http://www.gearbits.com/images/thumbs-up.gif LOL!
    Then they say their panties are not in a bunch while posting 8 or 9 times in the thread.
  • Oct 9, 2009, 08:53 AM
    spitvenom
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    It hasn't gotten in my panties, I'm not the least bit surprised. I just wondered what did he accomplish to deserve it? And by the way, you're using the DNC's talking point for today. :D

    Now, will Braylon Edwards be the man, did he bring more hope to Jets fans?

    It is just an easy point to make speech.

    I don't know about Edwards I am still a little suspect of him. But in fairness to him he hasn't had a decent QB since Chad Henie (sp) at Michigan.
  • Oct 9, 2009, 08:57 AM
    ETWolverine
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    http://www.gearbits.com/images/thumbs-up.gif LOL!
    Then they say their panties are not in a bunch while posting 8 or 9 times in the thread.

    Actually NK, you have posted 11 times in this thread... the most of anyone in this thread.

    Spit and Speech have posted 8 times each.

    J_9 and Tom have posted 6 times each.

    I have posted 5 times.

    Excon and Zippit have posted 1 time each.

    Oops! Looks like the joke's on you.

    Elliot
  • Oct 9, 2009, 08:58 AM
    spitvenom

    ET Whoever wins the NPP has absolutely no effect on my life. Say they would have given it to Richard Steele I wouldn't even post anything about how he doesn't deserve it or anything. It is petty and for the right to come out and blast it just shows how petty the right is.
  • Oct 9, 2009, 08:59 AM
    spitvenom
    Et to be fair to me and speech a few of our post are about imaginary football teams we "own"
  • Oct 9, 2009, 09:02 AM
    speechlesstx

    Even the MSM seems skeptical... the Washington Post:

    Quote:

    Obama is the third sitting U.S. president -- and the first in 90 years -- to win the coveted peace prize. His predecessors won during their second White House terms, however, and after significant diplomatic achievements. Woodrow Wilson was awarded the prize in 1919, after helping to found the League of Nations and shaping the Treaty of Versailles; and Theodore Roosevelt was the recipient in 1906 for his work to negotiate an end to the Russo-Japanese war.

    In contrast, Obama is struggling with two wars -- weighing whether to increase the number of U.S. troops fighting to defeat the Taliban in Afghanistan and overseeing the withdrawal of American combat troops from Iraq. He is mired in domestic struggles over health-care reform and economic recovery efforts, and searching for ways to build momentum to restart Israeli-Palestinian peace talks and to assemble an international effort to stop Iran's nuclear program.

    In choosing Obama from among 205 nominees, the committee appeared to be continuing its rebuke of the Bush administration's go-it-alone approach to world bodies and alliances, including its decision to go to war in Iraq without U.N. approval.
    The NY Times (via AARP as they've already scrubbed this portion from their original article) :

    Quote:

    Reporters at a news conference to announce the prize pressed the committee’s chairman, Thorbjorn Jagland, to explain the reasons Mr. Obama had prevailed over other candidates who included human rights activists in China and Afghanistan and political figures in Africa.

    Specifically, reporters asked whether Mr. Obama might not become mired in a war in Afghanistan as Lyndon B. Johnson was in Vietnam.

    But the committee said it wanted to enhance Mr. Obama’s diplomatic efforts so far rather than anticipate events in the future.
    Even Matt Lauer said, “We’re less than a year into the first term of this president and there are no -- I'm not trying to be, you know, rude here -- no major foreign policy achievements, to date. So why did he win?”

    He won because he's not Bush was their assessment.
  • Oct 9, 2009, 09:03 AM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    http://www.gearbits.com/images/thumbs-up.gif LOL!
    Then they say their panties are not in a bunch while posting 8 or 9 times in the thread.

    I'm just relaying the news. :D
  • Oct 9, 2009, 09:04 AM
    ETWolverine
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by spitvenom View Post
    ET Whoever wins the NPP has absolutely no effect on my life. Say they would have given it to Richard Steele I wouldn't even post anything about how he doesn't deserve it or anything. It is petty and for the right to come out and blast it just shows how petty the right is.

    Want to bet?

    If Steele won the prize, I would wonder quite loudly WHY he was winning it. Because "world peace" ain't his job, it ain't part of his list of accomplishments and it isn't something that he's done.

    What makes you so sure that I wouldn't question it?

    But this is such an OBVIOUS farce that even those who support Obama are wondering how he won it. Even Obama didn't expect to win it, because HE KNOWS HE HASN'T EARNED IT.

    Elliot
  • Oct 9, 2009, 09:09 AM
    spitvenom

    I never said you wouldn't. But for people to come out and blast it is pointless. Who cares it doesn't change anyone life in this country. We have 6 pages of posts on such a non issue. The funny thing is you can't even stop yourself from posting. You are taking it seriously while I am sitting here laughing my @$$ off at you.
  • Oct 9, 2009, 09:09 AM
    ETWolverine
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by spitvenom View Post
    Et to be fair to me and speech a few of our post are about imaginary football teams we "own"

    True... but NK's have not.

    Which just makes my point all the more.

    On one hand NK claims that he's "just reporting the story" and "doesn't really care", and yet on the other hand, he points to the number of posts that others have as "proof" that we have our "panties in a knot"... all the while having more posts on the topic than anyone else.

    Elliot
  • Oct 9, 2009, 09:10 AM
    NeedKarma
    LOL! This is fun!
  • Oct 9, 2009, 09:11 AM
    ETWolverine
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by spitvenom View Post
    I never said you wouldn't. But for people to come out and blast it is pointless. Who cares it doesn't change anyone life in this country. We have 6 pages of posts on such a non issue. The funny thing is you can't even stop yourself from posting. You are taking it seriously while I am sitting here laughing my @$$ off at you.

    And yet you continue to post too. You must care to SOME degree, otherwise you wouldn't still be posting.

    Elliot
  • Oct 9, 2009, 09:12 AM
    excon
    Hello:

    Panties in the knot crowd --- 6

    The good guys --- 7

    excon
  • Oct 9, 2009, 09:13 AM
    NeedKarma
    Do you guys think Massa will recover well enough to be competitive?
  • Oct 9, 2009, 09:31 AM
    speechlesstx
    I hate to be painfully obvious again but this is a "discussion" board and this is the "current event" of the day. You're surprised people are posting?
  • Oct 9, 2009, 09:33 AM
    tomder55

    Quote:

    Now, will Braylon Edwards be the man
    I hear he packs quite a punch
  • Oct 9, 2009, 09:37 AM
    tomder55

    What I want to know is ;what compelled Reuters to go to the Taliban for a comment ? One would suspect that they were trying to steer the discussion .

    Nahhh not a reputable news organization!
  • Oct 9, 2009, 09:40 AM
    spitvenom

    I am having too much fun. There is this Tea Bag guy who stands out in front of the post office everyday near my work with an Obama sign with a Pinokio nose on him. I bet his head is ready to explode.
  • Oct 9, 2009, 09:43 AM
    spitvenom
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    I hear he packs quite a punch

    I like how LeBron's friend didn't call the cops but called ESPN about Edwards punching him in the face.
  • Oct 9, 2009, 10:19 AM
    tomder55
    Turns out that we have more in common with Lech Walesa than the Taliban . The Taliban says he doesn't deserve it because he is waging war against them . I actually think that is an endorsement in favor of his consideration. But ,our argument is that he has done nothing to deserve it. That is a position that Lech Walesa took when asked.



    http://www.krakowpost.com/imgsize.ph...009-walesa.jpg
    Former Peace Prize winner puzzled by announcement

    Quote:

    The former president, himself a Peace Prize winner in 1983, told the press in Warsaw "Who, Obama? So fast? Too fast - he hasn't had the time to do anything yet." This sentiment was reflected by current Prime Minister Donald Tusk: "Shock - absolutely. It's interesting, but shocking."
    "Too Fast" for Obama Nobel, Says Wa??sa | Krakow Post

    The Poles of course are good at recognizing appeasers masquerading as peace makers.
  • Oct 9, 2009, 10:52 AM
    earl237
    What nonsense, this is just political correctness and pandering to the extreme. If Obama were white, his candidacy for president would have been laughable much like senator Larry Pressler, who ran for president in 1980 after being senator for about 8 months.
  • Oct 9, 2009, 11:26 AM
    NeedKarma
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by earl237 View Post
    What nonsense, this is just political correctness and pandering to the extreme.

    Better go tell those crazy Norwegians that. They have the control, not any of us.
  • Oct 9, 2009, 11:36 AM
    tomder55

    I volunteer .The Norwegians are crazy leftys. Obama's plans there are considered right wing
  • Oct 9, 2009, 11:37 AM
    speechlesstx

    I love Newsweek's take, Obama Not First Surprising Nobel Peace Prize Winner: Seven Controversial Recipients

    He's not the first shocker, just the latest "controversial recipient."

    Quote:

    President Barack Obama was awarded the Nobel Peace Prize today, only eight months into his term. It's a bold—and some might say strange—move to fête a president who's still in the beginning of his diplomatic career. After all, Arizona State didn't even think he was ready for an honorary degree. Who knows what else he has in store for the United States? One thing we do know: Obama is likely to order thousands more troops into a war zone within weeks.

    So the U.S. president may seem like a surprising choice for the award. This is the Nobel Peace Prize we're talking about, an honor designed to seek out and reward those who's contribution to the cause of harmony and peace on the face of this earth is both outstanding and unquestionable.

    Well, most of the time.

    LOL! I can't wait for the spin to really accelerate.
  • Oct 9, 2009, 12:53 PM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    Better go tell those crazy Norwegians that. They have the control, not any of us.

    And there you've almost got it. We're not criticizing Obama, we're criticizing the Nobel committee.
  • Oct 9, 2009, 02:41 PM
    speechlesstx
    At work we had already decided that Obama should be in the running for Super Bowl MVP, the next American Idol, and since Tom DeLay dropped out... he should win the mirror ball on Dancing With The Stars. You can nominate him as a write-in candidate for the Heisman trophy here (h/t David Freddoso at the Washington Examiner).
  • Oct 9, 2009, 03:47 PM
    Catsmine
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    At work we had already decided that Obama should be in the running for Super Bowl MVP, the next American Idol, and since Tom DeLay dropped out...he should win the mirror ball on Dancing With The Stars. You can nominate him as a write-in candidate for the Heisman trophy here (h/t David Freddoso at the Washington Examiner).

    Don't forget to tell your local Bishop to make sure his name is in for the next canonization ballot.
  • Oct 9, 2009, 05:13 PM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Catsmine View Post
    Don't forget to tell your local Bishop to make sure his name is in for the next canonization ballot.

    LOL, Pope John Paul II didn't manage a win, surely Obama can. :D
  • Oct 9, 2009, 06:45 PM
    twinkiedooter

    I truly don't think Alfred Nobel would approve of this choice but on second thought maybe he would considering Aflred Nobel made his money in weapons and expolsives. So possibly the Nobel nominating committee just wants to ensure that Obama is going to use plenty of Nobel's products in the near future in the world on the unsuspecting peoples in his new and bigger wars he has yet to concoct.

    And yes, April Fools Day did come early this year.

    What where they thinking? How to have this man more hated than he already is?

    Flash - update. Time magazine is nominating Obama Man of the Year. For what? Who cares?

    Flash - update. The Academy Awards will nominate him for his "truly stirring speeches given under duress" and he should be a shoe in for an Oscar with the award winning utterances of "Umma umma umma, anna, anna, anna."

    Flash - update. Globe newsmagazine has uncovered just WHY he was nominated for the Nobel Prize. It was his wife's designer attire of the Bloody cammoflage outfit she wore at a funeral!

    Update at 11 on your local channel 3 news.
  • Oct 9, 2009, 07:30 PM
    KISS

    I hear he's going to give the $1M of the prize money to charity. If he spent nearly $1M for a ride on AF 1 to get the Olympics in Chicago who's paying the bill? Are the taxpayers footing a $1M plane ride and then are the taxpayers then effectively donating $1M to charity?

    Inquireing minds would like to know?
  • Oct 10, 2009, 02:24 AM
    tomder55

    Quote:

    I truly don't think Alfred Nobel would approve of this choice but on second thought maybe he would considering Aflred Nobel made his money in weapons and expolsives. So possibly the Nobel nominating committee just wants to ensure that Obama is going to use plenty of Nobel's products in the near future in the world on the unsuspecting peoples in his new and bigger wars he has yet to concoct.
    Yes Nobel invented dynamite ;but this award is right in line with his utopinan vision. His intent for the peace prize was to award the person who best moved towards world disarmament and the abolition of standing armies.

    Found out the real reason why Obama won the prize...

    He was the 10th caller.
  • Oct 10, 2009, 04:33 AM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    Found out the real reason why Obama won the prize......

    He was the 10th caller.

    Good as any, but surely it wasn't that easy. He must have known the name of the mystery song.
  • Oct 10, 2009, 06:43 AM
    NeedKarma
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    And there you've almost got it. We're not criticizing Obama, we're criticizing the Nobel committee.

    Now I'm getting it? LOL! Look at yours and tom posts, they all making fun of Obama not the Norwegians. Falls in line with the Republican "do as I say not as I do" credo.
  • Oct 10, 2009, 07:37 AM
    excon
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    Look at yours and tom posts, they all making fun of Obama not the Norwegians.

    Hello NK:

    **greenie**

    It IS true. Real words and what they mean don't much interest our loyal foes... They see words like "death panel", where there are none. They tell you they're not insulting Obama when their words say they are... It's getting harder and harder to have a REAL discussion with them when you can't trust that the words they write convey the thoughts they have.

    Then the posts devolve into posts like this where all we talk about is words and what they mean, and who said them... Then they deny they said them, or they deny what they mean...

    It's kind of silly - unless it's intentional. Like I said earlier, I think this is a real right wing strategy. Then they can get us talking about words instead of issues... I don't know if it works or not, but I'm catching on...

    excon
  • Oct 10, 2009, 12:20 PM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    Now I'm getting it? LOL! Look at yours and tom posts, they all making fun of Obama not the Norwegians. Falls in line with the Republican "do as I say not as I do" credo.

    You guys expected us to have a sense of humor during the Bush years, were we supposed to lose it when Obama won? The material is too rich to pass up, and surely Obama - and YOU - aren't naïve enough to think that he wouldn't be the butt of many a joke for accepting the award. Regardless, the jokes illustrates the absurdity of giving such a prestigious award based on potential and not actual accomplishment and that reflcets on the Nobel committee.
  • Oct 10, 2009, 01:56 PM
    inthebox

    "Extreme Makeover" the show - all those folks should have won the NPP - they do great work. :)

    How about the folks over at Red Cross - they do great work to. I wonder what the POTUS is doing about Darfur?


    G&P

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