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I got snookered too:
1. The video was sent to me by someone I know and love.
2. There is an American flag showing.
3. The young man is dressed in a khaki shirt (hmmm, military?).
4. The young man looks very serious.
5. Had there been a dog or cat in the video, I would have clicked Play even faster.
I'm apparently very lonely.
LOL, and so being here more than two years longer and working on the internet shows I'm wrong how?Quote:
Originally Posted by NeedKarma
No. It's that math thing again. He's been on longer and therefore even at the same rate of posting, there will be more posts.Quote:
Originally Posted by speechlesstx
Yes, exactly. More time, more posts, more lonely hours on the internet.Quote:
Originally Posted by asking
I'll take you at your word, whatever you were thinking. I missed a digit in the viewer numbers, so my math was off. However the .34 number demonstrates even less significance and viewer rating than 29 percent. Now with my name spelled out in the signature I would expected the mature adult you claim to be to had addressed me as such. You didn't. Likewise I don't turn the other cheek.Quote:
Originally Posted by Capuchin
Steve, I knew if I checked back in one more time I could find at least one ignorant coward. That would be you and your enormous ego that your wife has to endure... well G-d bless her. My wife is a loving person, that's why I married her, and she deserves respect. How selfish you are to only think about yourself and that keyboard you worship. Boy! You do have a lot to learn about relationships. BTW you can worry about my testicles when choking on my sett. I know that family and marriage apparently means less to you than the internet and having a life, but not so for me. After six plus months plus bantering politics, the election day is here. Give your ego some fresh air and prepare to love the black man that's going to be your president. ;) :)Quote:
Originally Posted by speechlesstx
Ignorant coward? Family means less? Sorry I haven't been the good little conservative that takes his beatings, tucks his tail between his legs and runs but it's not my style. Take this on your way out, I'm the one that tried to restore civility to our discussions but as long you act like an a$$ you shouldn't be surprised if that's how you're treated.Quote:
Originally Posted by BABRAM
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Originally Posted by speechlesstx
You mean you lost control. Big difference! You forget that I know how you and others acted before I decided to get involve on the political board scene. After watching the Pub free-for-all constantly bashing anyone that opposed Dubya, I decided to see if you could take it, as well as dish it out. I found out you couldn't. Your ego swelled immensely and you became a psychologically scorned bully. Prepare to love the black man. ;)
C'mon Steve and Bobby. You're both better MEN than this.
Although I agree with Bobby's views more so than Steve I think both of you deserve a little more respect from one another.
Although it does make for a good read.
OK Bobby, last thoughts here and you can take it how you want. As a Christian I should know better than to respond as you have with insults, but I'm not hardwired that way. I'm not everything I should be, I get pissed when people I respected turn on me, I especially have zero tolerance for people that self-righteously, hypocritically and intolerantly criticize others, turn the other cheek is not my first reaction. But I acknowledge I'm human, I make mistakes, and I do feel bad after I've responded in like manner to someone that's insulted me. You tell everyone it's ego, but to admit my failings, to admit I'm not an expert and didn't finish high school is a sign of humility, not ego.Quote:
Originally Posted by BABRAM
You're a good man, Bobby, but somewhere down the line during this election cycle that good man got lost. I hope you find him again. In spite of everything I wish you and your family well... but I will not learn to love Obama unless he learns to love the unborn child.
I want get into your Christian beliefs or personal perimeters. We all choose our actions and you either choose to love, or hate. However I do know many people that have voted solely based on the abortion issue. Some would say the same for many unnecessary deaths in the Iraqi War. However, as far as I know, though I'm not privileged to Barack's private family information, Michelle Obama has carried all her children to term. I'm pro-choice, yet my wife has never had an abortion and she wouldn't unless she was raped or her own life was in jeopardy, heaven forbid.Quote:
Originally Posted by speechlesstx
Barack Obama has won the election, as expected. He'll have four years to try and unravel the past eight years of failures. If he can't undo at least some of the damage, I'll be voting him out. It's that simple. However I'm going to embrace Barack Obama's presidency in a positive manner. He's had to overcome a lot of haters during this election and I admire his strength and determination. Congratulations to Barack Obama our first African-American to become President of the United States. :)
Congratulations to all American's and let's unite behind our new President like we used to.
There won't be much uniting I'm afraid, in fact, his election will do more to divide this once great nation than any other president in our history.Quote:
Originally Posted by TexasParent
I truly feel sorry for everyone who was fooled and swindled by his false promises.
Of course, the first thing we all have to deal with is the largest tax increase in the history of our country when he allows the Bush tax cuts to expire.
Oh, you didn't realize that everyone's taxes will go up, without him even having to raise them, yeah, he kind of left that part out of all his fancy words and promises, didn't he?
I guess none of you pay much attention to all the previous candidates who promised not to raise taxes either. History has proven over and over again that this always happens, and not just to democrats either. The most recent examples are Clinton and Bush Sr.
Both promised not to raise taxes to get elected, and then of course, broke this promise fairly quickly once they got into office.
I'll be interested to see the comments from all of you Obama supporters in say, the next 6 to 12 months, when reality has replaced all of his empty words of hope and change.
Oh yeah, we're in for some changes all right.
There are always those that wish for divisions to exist. It gives them a certain comfort.Quote:
Originally Posted by progunr
Hello prog.Quote:
Originally Posted by progunr
Now you know how I felt about YOUR dufus in chief. And, I was right.
excon
Hey ex,Quote:
Originally Posted by excon
I was never a strong supporter of the "Dufus in chief" and will freely admit that he was
Not a true conservative, especially when it came to spending, but, it's time to quit talking about what might have been, and to focus on what lies ahead.
It would seem at this point, that the stock market has not been very impressed with the results of this election, clearly those that invest in our system don't hold much of a positive attitude towards the future with our newly elected President.
I also found it interesting that in 30 years, the president of Iran has NEVER congratulated ANY of our newly elected presidents.
That all changed when Obama won, yes, the enemies of the United States are just as happy with him as all of his US supporters.
That should scare the hell out of any American citizen.
Watch out, change IS coming to America.
And I am prepared to protect myself and my family if the need should arise.Quote:
Originally Posted by progunr
What exactly are you guys protecting yourselves against?
I don't know . Perhaps more than anyone now conservatives have a right to say 'no taxation without representation"
I am protecting my family against the enemies of the US who have befriended BO.
Not only has our stock market dropped in the two days, or has it been three now? My days run together now that I work nights, but our unemployment rate has hit highs.
I don't understand. How can they now simply waltz in to your town? What changed to allow this?Quote:
Originally Posted by J_9
Hello Need:
I'll tell you what I'M protecting myself from... We've just had a Republican fostered meltdown of our economy. There is going to be some dislocations...
I use the word "dislocations" kindly... What I mean is a severe depression. In fact, during the height of this coming REPUBLICAN lead depression, there's going to be wandering bands of un-employed, hungry people with lots of GUNS. Some of 'em are members here.
excon
You guy certainly do not help the tourism industry for your country. Anyone reading this board from outside would likely never set foot there.
Gimme a break Ex... it's the thugs who buy the guns, and I can name certain brands, for $25 in the back alleys. It is the law abiding citizen who does it through the proper channels. Us law abiding citizens need to protect ourselves.
Yeah, and I already booked my ticket for Baghdad!!Quote:
Originally Posted by NeedKarma
What is it that you libs don't understand about the real cause of our economic distress?Quote:
Originally Posted by excon
The forcing of banks, to lend money to people who could not pay it back, by the "socialistic" dreams of the left to make sure that EVERY American can own a house, without ANY regard to their ability to pay for it.
THAT my friends is what got us to this point. Period.
Correct me if I am wrong, but wasn't it Clintoon who started that?Quote:
Originally Posted by progunr
Most of us agree on that. And now that he is nearly out of office, we have to bite the bullet and accept that WE ALL now have to pay for that excessive spending. The debts Bush and friends incurred are not going to go away when he does. In fact, I'm sure there will be more, the result of his poor management. We are stuck with the mess he made.Quote:
Originally Posted by progunr
I have confidence that the Obama administration will do what it can to balance the paying off that debt against the need to keep the economy going and even thriving. But don't assume it's all going to be the way it was under Clinton. It isn't going to be perfect. Nobody thinks we can escape undamaged from the mess the Bush administration got us into. Our country is deeply damaged in many ways.
The reason people are writing to Americans from all over the world to congratulate us is that they are so relieved that we have someone reasonable they may be able to work with. Someone who will not shoot at everything that moves. Bush has been talking about attacking Iran for years. We saw what he did to Iraq. Why wouldn't the Iranians be relieved not to have another avowed hawk in office? That doesn't mean they are going to attack us. And it doesn't mean Obama will be a wuss. If anything, presidents with no military experience have tended to use military force more, or at least that's what I've read.
The greatest danger to Americans comes from ourselves. For example, more Americans (400,000+) are killed by smoking than by terrorists or ANY of the other boogeymen we scare ourselves with. American women and girls who are murdered are nearly always killed by people they know, not by the "scary" stranger from the next town or the next country. We need to keep things in perspective.
The only thing we have to fear is fear itself.
We need to start working to make things better, valuing accomplishment and hard work over having the latest model car, enormous houses, and expensive clothes. Our children and grandchildren will not be able to live as profligately as we have and our parents have, but they may be able to live better lives if we work towards that.
As far as the economy, here's what FDR said in 1933.
"Only Thing We Have to Fear Is Fear Itself": FDR's First Inaugural AddressQuote:
More important, a host of unemployed citizens face the grim problem of existence, and an equally great number toil with little return. Only a foolish optimist can deny the dark realities of the moment.
Yet our distress comes from no failure of substance. We are stricken by no plague of locusts. Compared with the perils which our forefathers conquered because they believed and were not afraid, we have still much to be thankful for. Nature still offers her bounty and human efforts have multiplied it. Plenty is at our doorstep, but a generous use of it languishes in the very sight of the supply.. . Practices of the unscrupulous money changers stand indicted in the court of public opinion, rejected by the hearts and minds of men.
Hello again, prog:Quote:
Originally Posted by progunr
Nope. It's apparently you conservatives who don't quite understand.
Had the problem ended where you say it ends, there would have been a few bank failures. No big deal...
But, it happened because the newly DEREGULATED market allowed Wall Street to package these loans into UNREGULATED OTC derivitives market, with NO capital requirements... Entities who USED sell these unregulated derivatives were called "bucket shops" until they were outlawed. But, the dufus in chief legalized them again. I don't know why the dufus and his minions don't read history.
The TRILLIONS and TRILLIONS of dollars LOST in THIS market is the real bugaboo.
It was, in fact, the Republicans who lead the way for DE regulating these markets, and the coming depression can be laid directly at the foot of the REPUBLICANS.
Period.
excon
Actually it started earlier with the Community Reinvestment act of 1977; a gift from the Democrat majority and President Carter .Quote:
Correct me if I am wrong, but wasn't it Clintoon who started that?
Community Reinvestment Act - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
However you are correct in that it really began to take off during the Clintoon reign. But it lasted throughout the Bush Adm. Also so in that regard it was a bipartisan act of negligence.
Ex I would agree with you if the Democrats in Congress were not complicit in the blocking of financial reform .But we have already posted the proof that both President Bush and Sen McCain tried to pass reform legislation that the Democrats blocked .
Thank you again for the education. I am still learning all of this at my ripe ole age of 44. I guess I have been in the medical books too long.Quote:
Originally Posted by tomder55
And while some of the trillions lost was just paper money that has evaporated, a lot of it went to actual people, who have multiple houses and more money than they can ever spend while others live without shelter, medical care, education, and even food.
Don't forget that of the $700 billion we just gave to the "freemarket," $40 BILLION is going to backpay for a handful of executives. If you want to know where your new taxes will be going, stop worrying about the unemployed mother next door who gets a few hundred dollars in food stamps for a few months and start looking at the individuals who really pig out at the slop trough.
I'm happy to call it bipartisan. But I would not call it negligence as if it was just a benign mistake. It was greed, pure and simple.Quote:
Originally Posted by tomder55
I called Washington Mutual in early 2007 about a home loan and they pursued me for months trying to sell me a loan I clearly couldn't afford. I'm so glad I had the sense (or at least anxiety) to say no. These financial institutions were allowed to run themselves into the ground by a lack of regulation and so they did. They had apparently no thought for the future, but only of how much money they could make today.
I'll grant you all that you say. I'll even go further than that . Wall Street Corp has a Sharia Compliant division ;so does many of these financial institutions everyone said we had to save.
But perhaps I should save this for another posting because I have evidence that Paulson would have Treasury jump on board this sharia compliant investment scheme.
The only thing I will add these companies defense is that they were pressured big time by groups like ACORN and their backers in government to loosen up standards for lending .
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