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Originally Posted by twinkiedooter
I'm sadden to read such statements. :rolleyes: Where did you hear that? Even if he was a closet Muslim, does that make him a bad person? And don't you think McCain would had brought Obama's citizenship disqualifications to issue, if possible?
Obama said it himself on September 7, 2008 during an interview with George Stephanophalis. That his faith was Muslim.Quote:
Originally Posted by BABRAM
McCain was actually booed on Friday at a crowd where they were trying to get him to say bad things about Obama. If anything McCain was standing up for the man. McCain does not have to run a dirty campaign.
Answer me this question. Where did Obama get his funny purple colored lips? This is not from his father. This is more a Middle Eastern trait or a trait from Indonesia (of all places). He looks nothing like his father or mother. I don't think that his father really was Obama Sr. And the name Obama is not a Kenyan name either.
The media adores Obama as they are TOLD to do this. The media does not listen to anyone other than the people who run the media. Any reporter who dares report the truth has a bad case of instant unemployment.Quote:
Originally Posted by jakester
Obama has so many Socialist ideas and ideology that would spell the end of any sort of American freedom we now have.
What really bothers me about this man is - Why would he write a book about his father and his early life a few years ago? Makes no sense to me other than a set up by the Trilateral Commission. Who cared or even knew who this guy was a few years ago?
Also, he went on in his own book to say how he did drugs - and a lot of them. Do you really want some druggie in office? I don't. George W is/was a drunk. Obama did pot and cocaine and supposedly shunned heroine. He said this in his own book. I am just paraphrasing it.
I think we get a good picture of your mindset now.Quote:
Originally Posted by twinkiedooter
Purple lips? Maybe he is using grape popcicles to stop smoking? Humm... purple lips... That's it, he is really an alien. It's true! The lizard reptilians are infiltrating the government faster than we thought! OH MY GOD! Where is my tin foil hat. Wait, I think only aluminum will work for the reptilian species.
I'll get back to you on that.
NK - My mindset is to point out that a black person does not have those funny purple colored lips and that his funny colored lips come from a different racial genetic background. And yes, some of my friends just happen to be black - from African ancestry and they have pointed this peculiar coloration out to me that I had not fully noticed before.
What is so chilling about this man Obama is that his wife at the convention said he would be a "taskmaster". If you say that word to anyone from Africa they will immediately say that particular word is highly associated with slavery. Why would she use that particular word of all the words in the English language to choose from when describing her husband? Maybe she is trying to give us a big hint of what is to come.
Also, he insists that everyone should have a job. That's nice to know. Just where are these jobs supposedly going to materialize from since almost all American jobs have been happily shipped overseas by corporations who got fat tax breaks to do so? America used to manufacture some wonderful goods, but now we have few and no factories left producing anything affordable as China and Mexico now have all the jobs there making goods at slave wages selling the goods over here for high prices making the corporations richer than ever. Do you really think that mindset of the corporations is going to change? No.
Ah, Uncle Stalin and Uncle Lenin would be proud of their little Amerikaska nephew, Obama.
Russia overthrew the Communists as that system did not work.
Do we want to have to go through the motions of overthrowing Communism in this country?
I don't.
I liked your video. Everyone should watch to the end. You are bound to learn some things that could open your eyes to what is really the situation in America today.Quote:
Originally Posted by magprob
One thing that really bothers me (and should bother everyone as well) is that Obama has ceased taking campaign contributions from us "little people" and is only taking money from corporations. What part of that picture is wrong/right? There is a term for this - I think it's called Corporate Wh*re.
I guess if you're one of those wealthy CEO's who has a Golden Parachute waiting for you to the tune of $20 million, please ignore this post.
Oh, gasoline is now $2.59 a gallon for regular here in this part of Ohio and keeps going down. Now I can afford(?) to drive to work 6 days a week and not have to fork over $50+ per week on gasoline. I'd rather fritter my money away buying dumb stuff like food.
Obama was addressing McCain surrogate/supporters campaigning that false notion (not McCain himself or his hired professional campaigners)...Quote:
Originally Posted by twinkiedooter
"My Christian faith," Obama quickly said. "Well, what I'm saying is that he (McCain) hasn't suggested that I'm a Muslim. And I think that his campaign's upper echelons have not, either. What I think is fair to say is that, coming out of the Republican camp, there have been efforts to suggest that perhaps I'm not who I say I am when it comes to my faith – something which I find deeply offensive, and that has been going on for a pretty long time.""
Facts about Obama and his heritage are found in the following link...
snopes.com: Who Is Barack Obama?
Those uneducated fools that booed McCain all owe him an apology. It was wonderful to see John McCain remove the microphone from the older women that made the racist comment about Obama.Quote:
Originally Posted by twinkiedooter
Answer: Neither from Indonesia, Kenya, or the Middle East. I have a second home in SE Asia. Those "funny purple colored lips," are the product of mixed skin tones, diet, and other health related issues. You appear to have a very narrow criteria that meets your satisfaction. I'm just curious while we are in an Q & A session... do you have any problems with Jews, if one were in the position to possibly be the next president?Quote:
Originally Posted by twinkiedooter
YouTube - Know Enough?
Babram - watch this one minute video and then tell me just how wonderful he is. What is YOUR excuse for his association with William Ayres?
No, I have no problem with Jews as FDR was of Jewish ancestry hence a Jew.
Oh, also Obama in his own book was citing his Muslim religion. I don't think he qualifies as a "closet Muslim" as you put it.
I don't have a narrow criteria as you put it. I just don't want someone in this country's highest elected position of President who has mob connections and terrorist connections and can't prove his citizenship eligibility to run for that position. Why did he travel using an Indonesian passport when he is supposedly an American citizen a few years ago after age 18? Oh, just coincidence, nothing to worry about. I guess he just had this lying around his home and decided to use it instead of his American passport which he did not have at the time. Guess that's okay too.
Also, he is not qualified legally to hold ANY elected position in this country and that includes his present position of US Senator. He is essentially an "illegal alien".
Why did a Federal Judge order him on September 29, 2008 to produce the following certified documents?
1. Obama's vault version (certified copy of his "original" version) Birth Certificate and
2. A certified copy of Obama's Certification of Citizenship
3. A certified copy of Obama's Oath of Allegiance.
This is in the case of Berg vs. Obama in Federal Court. Obama has continually filed Motions to Dismiss the lawsuit and stonewall any disclosure of the documents requested. If he would produce the documents the suit would end then and there. No, he can't produce these documents so he has his attorneys stall for time (a time honored practice among defense attorneys when their client cannot produce documents, etc). Why would he NOT produce these documents if he was truly on the up and up? Answer me that Babram? You can't.
Like jesus, god?? I agree!! Very crazy indeed!Quote:
Originally Posted by jakester
Sorry twinkiedoodle,
But you win the award of craziest lunatic on this site. It used to be magprob but to be quite honest I'm believing more of what he says everyday. Maybe he has been right all along. Yes, even though I like him, it scares me to believe him, but I can't control it. You on the other hand hand have completely lost it! Purple lips!! Bwa ha ha ha ha ha! If it weren't so hilarious id feel sorry for you.
What? Somebody actually believes me? Well, we'll see about that... fur sure. Don't fall for it. I was sent here by the evil ones to twist your mind. Twinkie can't hold a candle to me. Really! I am the craziest person here and I refuse to take second place to any one. ANYONE I TELL YOU!!
I talk to Aliens... the big reptilian type. I had a baby with a female bigfoot I tell you.
I really don't have a tin foil hat. I like to listen to them. Hell, I even hear voices in the high power lines. They tell me when to go to the bathroom.
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Originally Posted by twinkiedooter
For starters I prefer to work off facts, not excuses. Anybody can make a video for Youtube. Secondly, William's surname is not "Ayres," it's Ayers. Thirdly, playing the six degree separation game has G. Gordon Liddy doing lap dances on John McCain. BTW, personally I find neither Ayers or Liddy all that wonderful.
Obama's 'Weatherman' Connection - Fact Checker
The Facts
"The first article in the mainstream press linking Obama to Ayers appeared in the London Daily Mail on February 2. It was written by Peter Hitchens, the right-wing brother of the left-wing firebrand turned Iraq war supporter, Christopher Hitchens. Hitchens cited the Ayers connection to bolster his argument that Obama is "far more radical than he would like us to know."
The Hitchens piece was followed by a Bloomberg article last week pointing to the Ayers connection as support for Hillary Clinton's contention that Obama might not be able to withstand the "Republican attack machine." Larry Johnson, a former counterterrorism official at the CIA and the State Department, predicted that the Republicans would seize on the Ayers case, and other Chicago relationships, to "bludgeon Obama's presidential aspirations into the dust."
The London Sunday Times joined the chorus this weekend by reporting that Republicans were "out to crush Barack by painting him as a leftwinger with dubious support".
The only hard facts that have come out so far are the $200 contribution by Ayers to the Obama re-election fund, and their joint membership of the eight-person Woods Fund Board. Ayers did not respond to e-mails and telephone calls requesting clarification of the relationship. Obama spokesman Bill Burton noted in a statement that Ayers was a professor of education at the University of Illinois and a former aide to Mayor Richard M. Daley, and continued:
Senator Obama strongly condemns the violent actions of the Weathermen group, as he does all acts of violence. But he was an eight-year-old child when Ayers and the Weathermen were active, and any attempt to connect Obama with events of almost forty years ago is ridiculous.
In the short term, the person who has most to gain by speculation about Obama's acquaintance with a former terrorist is Hillary Clinton. The former First Lady likes to present herself as "tested and vetted" after years of exposure to Republican attacks, in contrast to Obama, a relative newcomer to hardscrabble presidential politics. Such arguments resonate with Johnson, the counterterrorism expert, who told me that he is a Clinton supporter, although not involved with the campaign.
But the Obama-Ayers link is a tenuous one. As Newsday pointed out, Clinton has her own, also tenuous, Weatherman connection. Her husband commuted the sentences of a couple of convicted Weather Underground members, Susan Rosenberg and Linda Sue Evans, shortly before leaving office in January 2001. Which is worse: pardoning a convicted terrorist or accepting a campaign contribution from a former Weatherman who was never convicted?
Whatever his past, Ayers is now a respected member of the Chicago intelligentsia, and still a member of the Woods Fund Board. The president of the Woods Fund, Deborah Harrington, said he had been selected for the board because of his solid academic credentials and "passion for social justice."
"This whole connection is a stretch," Harrington told me. "Barack was very well known in Chicago, and a highly respected legislator. It would be difficult to find people round here who never volunteered or contributed money to one of his campaigns.""
Here's some purple lip photos of the man for starters. His coloration is more like someone from either Malaysia or Indonesia.
You said: "For starters I prefer to work off of facts, not excuses"
What is your "excuse" for his Federal lawsuit and a Federal Judge telling him to produce a certified birth certificate, certification of citizenship and oath of allegiance?
P.S. The Washington Post is a joke. Now maybe if you said the WSJ or the NYTimes, I'd pay attention to an article, but the Washington Post, not in this lifetime. Sorry. Fact Checker is a joke to put it mildly.
So, back to the original question...
I don't want either for president. That said - I think Obama will win.
My GOD! Enough about those purple lips.
I want to talk about those ears! They look just like those cute little mushrooms that grow on fallen logs deep, deep in the rain forest. Don't they? That could mean he is of the Elfin tribe. Couldn't it?
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Originally Posted by twinkiedooter
FDR never ran on national election platform being known as Jewish. Many Gentiles, with all respect, have a little Jewish ancestry if you shake the tree hard enough. So you're OK with Jews, if one were to ever one run for president. What about Muslims?
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Originally Posted by twinkiedooter
No, he didn't. snopes.com: Who Is Barack Obama?
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Originally Posted by twinkiedooter
HUH? So as an illegal alien, instead of dodging the government and go into hiding, he decided to become more visual to the public as a senator, then run for president. That is very special logic that you are applying to Obama's life story. I disagree with you, but it makes for great drama. BTW people do have dual citizenship.
On another note... I know there are a fair share of goody-two-shoe people seeking political perfection in candidates. On my father's side of the family I have two cousins in the mafia and both spent time in prison. Everybody on this board has had some questionable connections. Trust me, nobody can being voting for John McCain worried about connections. The fact is you can't run for president without satisfying that criteria to our US government. Barack Obama has already done so, and to the satisfaction of John McCain.
America's Right
There is a video with Attorney Philip Berg discussing his lawsuit against Obama on this site that is most interesting.
Also, there is a lengthy article about the Bill Ayers topic that says quite a different tune than that of the Washington Post. The article is about 10 inches down from the video on the site.
Mag - he's not an elfin - he's a clone. The clone has ears from George W except he's not white.
You cannot have dual citizenship and run for President of the United States.
Also, here is a PDF file of the Plaintiff Philip Berg vs. Obama filed in Federal Court on September 29, 2008. I find it most interesting reading as Mr. Berg is an attorney who knows his facts. Maybe you could learn something as well if you bother to read it and improve your personal information on the topic.
Mr. Berg can be sued for libel if his suit is untrue in any way. Why would he jeopardise his professional standing with a bogus lawsuit?
A clone? Well... then I guess this is worse than I first suspected. You know, the fallen angels were cloning humans and animals according to Genisis. That could have something to do with his purple lips. Why couldn't you clone a purple lipped thing-a-majiggy.
You said: Barack Obama has already done so, and to the satisfaction of John McCain.
WRONG.
If he DID satisfy the government, then why would Mr. Berg be wasting his time filing a lawsuit regarding the fact that Obama has NOT released these documents?
John McCain has nothing to do with what the government requires nor does he have any say so in this regard.
Do yourself a favor (and us here as well) go back and watch a few hundred more hours of the Sopranos. Your mama is out of gobago, go to the store.
Hey dooter, Obama wasn't running for president when he was ten years old. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by twinkiedooter
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Originally Posted by twinkiedooter
I have to admit you're a hoot. I see people all the time, in good old America, with the same lip coloration.
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Originally Posted by twinkiedooter
Huh? I'll let you know when I can't answer, and judging by your questions/statements that won't be any time soon. Most individuals in the US that have the financial backing can produce a court case. That's why if you go to Berg's sight you'll see that he's begging for support. Berg is a gimmick lawyer that pulls these stunts for attention and seeks these 15 minutes of fame moments. He tried it with Dubya and Cheney, and now he's attempting this with Obama. Whoop-tee-do!
Allegations against Obama easily discredited
"Mr. Phillip Berg, the attorney quoted by Mr. Hansen, is well known in Pennsylvania. Previous lawsuits filed by him include one against President Bush and Vice President Cheney, claiming they knew beforehand of the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks and one against three U.S. Supreme Court justices to disbar themselves for deciding Bush won the 2000 presidential election against Al Gore.
His current lawsuit against Barack Obama has about as much merit.
According to the Immigration and Nationality Act, Title III, SEC. 305.(8 U.S.C. 1405), “A person born in Hawaii on or after April 30, 1900, is a citizen of the United States at birth.” As to whether or not Barack Obama was born in Hawaii, one need only go to FactCheck.org to view a copy of his birth certificate. It indicates Obama was born at 7:24 p.m., Aug. 4, 1961, in Honolulu (which was/is in Hawaii).
So much for the claim “Mr. Obama's mother went to Kenya late in her pregnancy and ended up giving birth there.”
More information about attorney Berg and his spurious lawsuits, etc., can be found at Urban Legends Reference Pages, FactCheck.org, TruthOrFiction.com-Is that forwarded email Truth or Fiction? Research into stories, scams, hoaxes, myths, and urban legends on the Internet, and phillyBurbs.com, to name just a few sources."
Actually I have been flying around visiting family in two different cities - big Thanksgiving get-together. I don't live my life online, I like to be with 'real people'. You seem like a nasty person in real life, someone who would talk behind someone's back.Quote:
Originally Posted by classyT
Twinkie the charges related to his birth or heritage are not substansive ;a canard ;and dilutes the many real reasons there are to oppose Obama .
You know NK... I was being silly and incidentally when you put something on the internet for everyone's eyes to see... it ain't exactly talking behind ones back. Duh I was teasing you. Something you just can't grasp. You get mean and personal... deal with it dude. I have my own opinion of what you are like in REAL life as well... :DQuote:
Originally Posted by NeedKarma
That's your standard answer isn't it? "I was bring silly" or "I was teasing you". That's called passive-aggressive behaviour.
Oh good grief NK... hows about this... I apologize! I want everyone that read it to understand I really do not think that NK couldn't handle the conversation, took his marbles and left. OK?Quote:
Originally Posted by NeedKarma
P.S. no one could accuse you of having any marbles to begin with ( no pun intended... promise) :D
I think Obama is going to win...
I honestly would like to see a re-do...
Mag, not with Willie Nelson, but close;)
Just stay on track people and others will be able to enjoy reading the info from this post;)
NK, I hope you had a nice weekend.
Startover,
I agree with you. I thought it might be a close race but now I don't even think that... I think he is going to win BIG. McCain needs a miracle...
Spitvenom,Quote:
Originally Posted by spitvenom
You would really allow an untried heart surgeon with no track record so surgery on you instead of a surgeon who has a proven history of success because the new guy has new ideas about heart surgery? What if his new ideas are just plain wrong and criminally negligent and if he uses them to operate on you he'll kill you? Would you still choose him? Because Obama's ideas on foreign affairs and dealing with terrorism are criminally negligent, his ideas on taxes during a recession are criminally negligent, and if we elect him he's going to kill the USA, economically and in terms of security. The fact that they are NEW ideas doesn't make them GOOD ideas or SAFE ideas.
And in fact, in Obama's case we have historical proof that his policies are downright dangerous. You need only look back to Carter to see what Obama's foreign policies would do to us. And as for his economic policies, you need look only at Herbert Hoover and the Great Depression to see what will happen if his policies are implemented. Hoover's tax policies, which match Obama's, dragged the Great Depression out for 10 years longer than it needed to be. The proof of the dangers of Obama's policies are there. His ideas may be different, but they aren't really "new", and they certainly aren't good.
Elliot
Ok here are my thoughts... as much as I would love to see an african american president, as I think that would finally show that we are past this racism thing, I can't help but get hung up on his name. His full name is Barrack Hussein Obama. Correct me if Im wrong but didn't someone named Hussein play a part in the worst possible terrorist attack that this country has ever seen? EVER! I know its just a name but let us think for a minute how much thought goes into our parents naming us. Or even us naming our children. I know that his mother is white and I believe was born in the US but don't you think that his entire name came from somewhere? His father is African American and I am sure played a part in the naming of his son. His mothers name was Ann Dunham. So who in her family was named Barrack, or Hussein? Who in his family was named that? I want to know where the names come from. I am willing to bet that it goes back to the middle east somewhere. That is why I will not be voting for Barrack Hussein Obama. Had his name been James Brown, maybe. I know it seems trivial but I can't help it. Also we see these commercials saying that we don't need 4 years of the same. Just because John McCain is a republican as is George Bush, doesn't mean he has the same ideas as George Bush.
I would also like to point out a comment made on one of Barrack Obama's commercials that really makes me think that he is insulting peoples intelligence! His commercial makes referance to McCains plan for health care stating that the tax break we would receive would go directly to the insurance company. If you actually go to McCain's website and read his proposed plan It explains that the money we would receive could be used to pay our health care premiums and any money left over we could deposit in our HRA. That makes a whole lot of sense. What I meant by him insulting our intelligence is that does he not realize that we can go right to McCain's website and read it for ouselves?? And after doing so, makes him look like a liar and a mud slinger!!
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Originally Posted by kanicky73
OK. Several corrections to be made here.
1. The culprit terrorist responsible for 9/11 is named "Osama Bin Laden."
2. The name "Hussein" is more popular in other countries than the United States. In other countries it's almost as popular as the given name "John," and "Smith" as a surname, in the US.
3. Forty-seven years ago, Barack was born to a mother that had no idea that Saddam Hussein would had turned out to be a dictator.
Vote on the issues folks.
Please remember that I did not say anything that I was saying was factual. I said that I can't help but feel that way. That is what my heart feels and that is what the original poster asked us to do. I was simply posting my own personal thoughts. Of course his mother couldn't have known that, again right wrong or indifferent that is how I feel. And in the wonderful nation that we live in, I have the right to feel that way if I so please.
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Originally Posted by BABRAM
Please remember that as americans we can vote on whatever reason we deem suitable. I am intelligent enough to research the issues but regardless, we can vote for whatever reason we see fit. It is our right, and if I don't feel comfortable voting for him because of his name etc, that is my right.
New polls came out today indicating that Obama has regained a double-digit lead in the Gallup, that he's taken a solid lead in Missouri and that he's even taken a small lead in North Dakota (which went for Bush by over 20 percentage points in the last election.)
With three weeks to go, the McCain/Palin ticket is fighting just to hold onto GOP stronghold states. It seems like they no sooner get one leak temporarily plugged than they spout two or three more.
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Originally Posted by kanicky73
Somebody questioned your right to vote?? I'm sure George Washington and his men didn't feel like crossing the Delaware on a cold blistery night, but thankfully he led on anyway. You asked to be corrected if you were wrong. I did so.
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