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  • Jun 27, 2008, 07:35 AM
    progunr
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by speechlesstx
    I agree with tom on civil unions as well.

    What do you expect from the church which is "too set in their ways with their old book" as you put it, NK? That "old book" is our standard - kind of like our constitution is the American standard. Should we abandon our standards and have no particular guidelines in either case?

    You have to remember that when you are dealing with Libs/Dems, they have no problem in dismissing the Church, or the Constitution.

    In MOST cases, neither one mirrors their twisted view of things.

    "too set in their ways with their old book" is about what I would expect to hear, no surprise there.
  • Jun 27, 2008, 07:45 AM
    NeedKarma
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by progunr
    You have to remember that when you are dealing with Libs/Dems, they have no problem in dismissing the Church, or the Constitution.

    In MOST cases, neither one mirrors their twisted view of things.

    <yawn> Your repetition of your hatred is tiresome.
  • Jun 27, 2008, 08:13 AM
    tomder55
    Of course the real question for Obama, who claims to think words are important ;is does he agree with the attempt to redefine the word marriage to serve a politcal agenda ? I think that is why they are angry with him. He has been the candidate of special interests who are now asking him to stick to their doctrine as he attempts to expand his base.
  • Jun 27, 2008, 08:18 AM
    progunr
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by NeedKarma
    <yawn> Your repetition of your hatred is tiresome.

    Hatred is a pretty strong word you know?

    I see far less hatred in my posts as compared to yours, but I still get a kick out of reading them.

    You really have no obligation to read anything I post, sorry to make you yawn.

    The truth can be a painful thing at times.
  • Jun 27, 2008, 08:49 AM
    NeedKarma
    Hatred in my posts? Where? I have 5,600 posts here since December 2004 with a bunch of greenies for thanks/approval. I don't believe I ooze hatred for an entire group of people as I see in some posts here.
  • Jun 27, 2008, 09:29 AM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by progunr
    Hatred is a pretty strong word ya know?

    I see far less hatred in my posts as compared to yours, but I still get a kick out of reading them.

    You really have no obligation to read anything I post, sorry to make you yawn.

    The truth can be a painful thing at times.

    progunr, it's obvious that all one needs to do to be 'hateful' in their eyes is be conservative. I'm still waiting for the examples of my hatred/intolerance...
  • Jun 27, 2008, 09:37 AM
    excon
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by speechlesstx
    progunr, it's obvious that all one needs to do to be 'hateful' in their eyes is be conservative.

    Hello Steve:

    Not true, Steve. You and I are opposed on most political issues. You're not hateful to me, nor I you. Same with the progundude. You're actually, gasp, my friends.

    Having said that, the progundude DOES say some pretty damn imflamatory things about the left leaning folk - things YOU, and tom, and DK, and Elliot DON'T say.

    The right isn't defiled by NK, nor myself, nor anybody here except Choux, and we forgive her.

    excon
  • Jun 27, 2008, 09:49 AM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by excon
    Hello Steve:

    Not true, Steve. You and I are opposed on most political issues. You're not hateful to me, nor I you. Same with the progundude. You're actually, gasp, my friends.

    Having said that, the progundude DOES say some pretty damn imflamatory things about the left leaning folk - things YOU, and tom, and DK, and Elliot DON'T say.

    The right isn't defiled by NK, nor myself, nor anybody here except Choux, and we forgive her.

    Ex, careful with that friends stuff, might get you excommunicated. ;)

    Surely you know I don't include you in they, them, their or "you guys" either, I do consider you a friend. I'll leave the assessment of the other two the rest of our members.
  • Jun 27, 2008, 09:51 AM
    progunr
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by excon
    Hello Steve:

    Not true, Steve. You and I are opposed on most political issues. You're not hateful to me, nor I you. Same with the progundude. You're actually, gasp, my friends.

    Having said that, the progundude DOES say some pretty damn imflamatory things about the left leaning folk - things YOU, and tom, and DK, and Elliot DON'T say.

    The right isn't defiled by NK, nor myself, nor anybody here except Choux, and we forgive her.

    excon

    I like that word, "inflamatory"!

    I can see where that might fit here and there.

    I don't want to get mushy, but you're my friend too!

    Really though, in the post that NK accused me of "repetitive hatred", does it really qualify as hatred?

    I don't see it that way, thus, the reason for the sarcastic reply.

    Oh, by the way, I got an A in sarcasm in high school, and my old man always told me that I was the reason they didn't send donkeys to school...
  • Jun 27, 2008, 01:35 PM
    Galveston1
    Are we still talking taxes? The Dems never met a tax they didn't like. (Apologies to Will Rogers)
  • Jun 27, 2008, 01:40 PM
    George_1950
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Galveston1
    Are we still talking taxes? The Dems never met a tax they didn't like. (Apologies to Will Rogers)

    Depends on what kind of Democrat Will Rogers was; after all, FDR, a Clinton protégé, ran as a conservative and governed as a lib/fascist. I doubt Rogers was in that crowd.
  • Jun 27, 2008, 03:42 PM
    SkyGem
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by BABRAM
    I can't afford to vote for McCain and neither can middle and lower class America. Vote Obama!

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    Can you promise Obama won't raise taxes?

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  • Jun 27, 2008, 05:56 PM
    BABRAM
    Sky- Bless your little heart, you try so hard to become relevant on this board. Both the candidates will raise taxes, that's not a revelation. What income bracket are you in?
  • Jun 27, 2008, 06:07 PM
    magprob
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by SkyGem
    Can you promise Obama won't raise taxes?[/URL]

    Can you promise he won't get elected?
  • Jun 27, 2008, 08:06 PM
    SkyGem
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by magprob
    Can you promise he won't get elected?

    Oh, if only I could! However, if the "Just Say No Deal!" trend continues and Hillary's name is written on the ballots of all the states as the alternative candidate by the millions who still support her, we just might be seeing your question come to fruition! Oh, let's hope! Come On Everybody... let's write Hillary on the ballot as the alternative candidate with the most experience and savvy! After all, with that kind of support, it would truly be hope we could very much believe in!

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  • Jun 27, 2008, 08:21 PM
    BABRAM
    Wow! One moment you preach Christian pro-life and the next you aligned yourself with Progressive Politics, Feminism, Gay Rights, Lesbian Rights, Liberal Politics, Equality, Same-sex marriage, and Anti-Bush supporters of the "Just say no deal coalition." Oy vey! :rolleyes:
  • Jun 27, 2008, 08:43 PM
    magprob
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by SkyGem
    Oh, if only I could!! However, if the "Just Say No Deal!" trend continues and Hillary's name is written on the ballots of all the states as the alternative candidate by the millions who still support her, we just might be seeing your question come to fruition! Oh, let's hope! Come On Everybody... let's write Hillary on the ballot as the alternative candidate with the most experience and savvy! After all, with that kind of support, it would truly be hope we could very much believe in!

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    Ok, I'll write in Hellary and you write in Ron Paul. Deal?
  • Jun 27, 2008, 09:02 PM
    BABRAM
    Mag- Sky's scorned and hell knoweth no fury.


    http://www.hellaryno.com/images/uplo...y_no_home2.jpg
  • Jun 27, 2008, 10:40 PM
    magprob
    Yep. Let go Sky. You have to learn to let go. Just-Let-Go.
    Nice picture by the way Bobby.
  • Jun 28, 2008, 08:56 AM
    SkyGem
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by magprob
    Ok, I'll write in Hellary and you write in Ron Paul. Deal?

    But each of our votes would, in effect, cancel the other out. So, tell you what -- It's Hillary or bust!

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  • Jun 28, 2008, 09:11 AM
    SkyGem
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by magprob
    Yep. Let go Sky. You have to learn to let go. Just-Let-Go.
    Nice picture by the way Bobby.

    Can't let go of a GREAT thing, Mag, especially with MILLIONS of supporters and GROWING each new day! That's why we say...

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  • Jun 28, 2008, 09:47 AM
    magprob
    Exactly. Each of our votes would be meaningless. Get with the program and vote for a viable candidate. Just vote. I have decided to go with McSame. If we don't kill the Arabs for oil, we will have none. I gota drive my big azz Chevy pickup regardless of what the rest of the world thinks. As a matter of a fact, just this moment, I am listening to the Cure's, Killing an Arab. Great album... just great! Drip, drip, drip!
  • Jun 28, 2008, 06:07 PM
    SkyGem
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by magprob
    Exactly. Each of our votes would be meaningless. Get with the program and vote for a viable candidate. Just vote. I have decided to go with McSame. If we don't kill the Arabs for oil, we will have none. I gota drive my big azz Chevy pickup regardless of what the rest of the world thinks. As a matter of a fact, just this moment, I am listening to the Cure's, Killing an Arab. Great album...just great! Drip, drip, drip!

    Well, the important thing, Mag, is that you vote even if you can't support Hillary at this time. At least you're not supporting Obama! Thanks for that!

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  • Jun 28, 2008, 07:56 PM
    magprob
    I think Obama is a bright, well meaning person. I like him. But when it comes down to it, I am a republican at heart that believes in working for your living and trading the fruits of your labor for the services you require. I cannot see paying a tax to lift the rest of the world out of poverty. That is completely insane.
    The fed has stopped cutting the interest and soon it will cause the inflation to lower. When it does, and GOD willing McCain is president, we will be off and running again. We will be drilling in my backyard for oil and cutting trees to build more houses and every one of us free enterprise pirates will be scamming and jamming and making bank. The thought of it just turns me on!
    On the other hand, Obama will have me playing nurse maid to a bunch of sorry bastards that would just as soon cut my throat. No thank you. Get your own. Make your own. Build your own or live in a mud hut if you like. Since the dawn of time, this planet has operated on the fairest plan it can, survival of the fittest. I have been doing it too long to become a socialist. At this point, I love scamming and jamming for the almighty buck. Keeps me young and thinking. All I really want from the republicans is smaller government and less control. Just like GOD made the first Republicans.
    Yes, I voted for bush but he pissed me off. He should have just killed the Saudis, the Iraqis, and everyone else within the collateral damage area and be done with it. Don't stop bombing till the oil is gushing from the ground. Instead, he brought the intrigue to American citizens with phone taps and other bull that we don't need or deserve. If your going to whoop azz then do it, get it over with and move on to the next idiots that need a good azz whoopin. This war is taking too long and costing too much money. Too many young men from my town are dying. Any redneck can tell you how it's done, just "Get'er Done!"

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