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Originally Posted by NeedKarma

Dear God how I love my Canada after reading this site!

Yeah, all is well there, isn't it? A bastion of peace, tolerance, diversity and unity, eh?

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Dog lovers mistaken for abusers

A dog-loving Chinese-Canadian couple are pleading for understanding after a case of mistaken identity has left them dealing with threatening and racist phone calls...

"I'm scared," said Qing Li, 35. "People leave the message, say 'Go back to your country,' and then many of the bad words I can't say. So I'm scared. Why? ... I didn't make the mistake, I didn't make the trouble."

University of Windsor student Qu Li is accused of choking, kicking and slamming a four-month-old Husky puppy, hurting the dog so badly that it had to be euthanized.

But Qing Li and her husband, who live on Randolph Avenue, have nothing to do with the alleged animal abuser -- other than a common country of origin and similar initials. "I don't know who the heck he is," said Chen, 45.

One of the obscenity-laden messages left on the couple's answering machine on Tuesday told them: "You're not gonna live to see the (expletive) light of day tomorrow... You just see what happens to you tonight, (expletive)."

Another male caller stated: "I know where you live. I'm coming over to your house, and I'm gonna bring a shovel and beat you with it."

A female caller said that "if you're the Peking that beat the dog, go back to your country. You don't know the laws in this country. Go back to your country and stay there. We don't want you here... Go back to hell."

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REAL Women Demands Canadian Taxpayer Funding of Obscene Films Must Stop

Bill C-10, an omnibus bill of amendments to the Income Tax Act, contains a government proposal to amend the Income Tax Act that would allow the Heritage Ministry to withhold federal tax credits to Canadian film and television projects it deems offensive...

"No other industry has ever enjoyed such carte blanche immunity from corporate responsibility and public accountability," she said in a Globe and Mail report.

She explained that the film American Psycho, based on the book of the same name that "was considered a how-to manual for convicted serial killer Paul Bernardo, received $120,000 in Canadian tax credits."

In a report by the Hill Times, Rev. Charles McVety of the Canada Family Action Coalition warned the Conservative government that it will "pay a price", in the way of a grassroots rebellion, if it gives in to pressure from the film and television industry and amends or waters down its provision to deny government tax credits for offensive screen productions.

"If they want to capitulate to David Cronenberg so that he can make a few hundred more million dollars, then they don't deserve to be in government and they won't be in government for very long," Rev. McVety told The Hill Times. "If the government loses common sense and says that, 'We're going to continue funding films such as "Young People F-ing" and other such movies,' then they will pay a price for that. That's not good government and the grassroots will rebel."

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India lodges protest with Canada

India has lodged a very strong protest with the government of Canada over letting Indo-Canadians to organise a Baisakhi parade where Indira Gandhi's assassins were glorified. After the Congress and other parties expressed their shock and horror over the parade, New Delhi today (April 15) lodged a formal protest with the Canadian authorities.

Minister of State for External Affairs, Anand Sharma said, “Well I have conveyed to Canadian Minister of Sate for External Affairs, Helena Georges India’s anguish and concern over the parade that took place in the city of Surrey and the fact that assassins of the Late Prime Minister and beloved leader, Indira Gandhi were glorified in the posters and were declared martyrs.”

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More youths in gangs

Less than 48 hours after Toronto Mayor David Miller launched a national push to have handguns banned by the federal government, his city recorded three more shootings.

Elsewhere last week, Calgary police appealed for tips following two shootings that injured two young men.

Neither shooting was a random act, Calgary police said, summing up the gunplay as just the latest example of the "blatant disregard gang members have for innocent members of the community who could have been hit by errant bullets."

Michael Chettleburgh, author of Young Thugs: Inside the Dangerous World of Canadian Street Gangs, warns of a rise in the number of young people joining gangs and says the increasing gunplay on Canadian streets is a symptom of a burgeoning drug trade.

Charge Canadian polygamists to protect children

Disgruntled Chinese Rally in Ottawa

Yet another Indo-Canadian youth dies in gang violence

And of all things...

We should be changing hockey; the violence is so unCanadian

Speech,
You are so predictable. I'm so happy I don't have negative types like you hanging around me. You should seek some counselling to find out why you are so angry at most of the people around you.

NK : what if Obama was running for PM and he made these comments?

“And they fell through the Harper administration, and the Martin administration, and each successive administration has said that somehow these communities are going to regenerate and they have not,” Mr. Obama went on. “And it's not surprising then they get bitter, they cling to hockey or universal healthcare or antipathy to Americans who aren't like them or ANTI-BUSH sentiment or anti-RElIGION sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations."

Hockey and universal healthcare are not suitable replacements for your gun culture (which we do not have) and the inclusion of religion (gay marriage issue in your last election). But people would be correct to vote for issues such as healthcare but hockey and religion never enter politics here (except that veil issue in Quebec).

I don't see anything wrong with what Obama said I'm bitter when I call my credit card company and I have to speak to someone who took an American's job just so the company could get a tax break and pay that person two bucks an hour. That doesn't make you bitter.

I don't have a gun to cling to when my government fails me. I don't have religion to cling to when the government fails me. I cling to hope. Hope that one of these candidate's can start to change this mess. And Obama is the only one who makes me feel like he can change things.

Sounds like your debates about gay marriage mirrors ours

The error that dare not speak its name

Point taken Need

But for a lot of voting Americans gun ownership and faith is an issue. For a presidential candidate to make the statements that Obama did is disappointing since he presents himself as a candidate to unite and not divide.

These words were spoken at a private San Francisco event. I'm certain that Obama never expected these words to get out to the general public. Credit should go to Huffpo for exposing them. In San Francisco, these statements might have been met by approving nods but to flyover country, middle America these statements are condescendiing and they won't play well in a general election.

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I don't see anything wrong with what Obama said I'm bitter when I call my credit card company and I have to speak to someone who took an American's job just so the company could get a tax break and pay that person two bucks an hour. That doesn't make you bitter.

We really have to move past this . No one is guaranteed a job and no one is guaranteed a rate of pay. It is not unusual for jobs to come and go due to among other things technoligical improvements that make the jobs obsolete. Someone explain to me why it is the job of the government to be the guardian of such jobs ? You are lucky to get a human at all. I had Sears service done this week and I dealt with robo-call service . Why should I be bitter about that ? My service was performed just as well regardless of who took the call.

Tom,
It's one person's opinion piece. He's allowed to say what he wants but it doesn't mirror the view of the population. Personally I kind of agree with him in that allowing gay marriage in a church should not be imposed by the government, christianity is set in their ways. Recognized civil unions are the way to go.

Barack Obama | Change We Can Believe In | Economy

"Amend the North American Free Trade Agreement: Obama believes that NAFTA and its potential were oversold to the American people. Obama will work with the leaders of Canada and Mexico to fix NAFTA so that it works for American workers."

What does he mean by "FIX"

Is he for or against NAFTA?

Is he anti-trade and therefore "bitter" just like his own comments?

That Canadian memo about what Obama really thinks about NAFTA. - By Bonnie Goldstein - Slate Magazine

and again one of those rare convergences . We agree. It would be much easier to resolve if the word marriage was removed form the equation.

What would YOU do about NAFTA?

I'm in favor of NAFTA and other bi-lateral trade agreements . I think they are a net plus for all the nations involved .

Tom you skipped over the entire out sourcing problem It's one thing to have robo call and everything is fine. It's another when you call someone one who can speak English but has no comprehension of the English language.

Box
When the government fails somebody that person clings to what is familiar they cling to their guns or religion and that is a good thing!! I don't own guns and I think religion is a story to tell little kids so they behave correctly. So please point out to me what he said wrong?

Because religion is a foundation and not something to "cling to " .That is Marxist rhetoric.

Funny that, my kids have a great foundation without religion. That could be considered proof that your statement is incorrect.

No it isn't because I did not say it was a foundation for everyone . Do you " Cling "to atheism when times get tough ? I believe it would be insulting for me to imply that. If Obama changed his words slightly he could've just quoted Marx "opiate " line of bs.

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Originally Posted by tomder55

no it isn't because I did not say it was a foundation for everyone . Do you " Cling "to atheism when times get tough ? I believe it would be insulting for me to imply that. If Obama changed his words slightly he could've just quoted Marx "opiate " line of bs.

But people do cling to their religion in troubled times. You seem hung up on this 'communist' ("Marx") slant, why?

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Tom you skipped over the entire out sourcing problem

Not at all. You act like outsourcing is a one way street . I can just hear Japanese auto workers complaining that Toyota has a manufacturing plant here .

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But people do cling to their religion in troubled times.

Perhaps but the implication is much deeper in this case because of the "elite" limosine liberal audience he was addressing . See answer #4 to this posting for more detail on my position .

That is something the people of Japan need to stand up against. I struggle like most people in this country do and I am sorry what Obama said is the truth maybe that's the problem people do not like to hear the truth in America.

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Originally Posted by tomder55

See answer #4 to this posting for more detail on my position .

Dude we all know your position - you don't like him, you look for reasons not to like him, you want so much for others not to like him, you spend your day posting stuff here against him - we get it.

I just think it's because you're scared that he'll be the one to face McSame. Then they fun will begin. :)

I loved what Rev Wright had to say he simply quoted a white ambassador but everyone ignores that part. The second clip when he basically says rich white men run America is the truth. If it isn't the truth then Please tell me who does run America?

To tell you the truth if Evita and Obama were the final selection I would probably have to vote for Evita. Obama is clueless and a product ;like Kerry of spending too much of his formative years away from the country. Yes;he tried to establish street cred so he could get in touch with his identity but he is nonetheless out of touch ;as demonstrated by his typical white ;typical hicks comments. Here is another one .

When he was campaigning in Iowa he was commenting about high prices . But instead of using an example that most Iowans could relate to he said :

“Anybody gone into Whole Foods lately and see what they charge for arugula?”... “I mean, they're charging a lot of money for this stuff.”

Arugula ? The people of Iowa could care less about the price of arugula in a whole foods health store. What they were into was the price of corn on the commodities market. I'm telling you ;besides his racial narrative there is very little difference between Obama and the Brahman John Kerry.

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Originally Posted by NeedKarma

Speech,
You are so predictable. I'm so happy I don't have negative types like you hanging around me. You should seek some counselling to find out why you are so angry at most of the people around you.

NK, not nearly as predictable as you are. The point of the last post was everyone has problems - even Canada - but I don't sit around here mocking your country like you do mine on a regular basis. Also predictably, you turn to personal insults instead of making a useful argument. I don't mind though, I'm not the one that looks like the fool.

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Originally Posted by speechlesstx

but I don't sit around here mocking your country like you do mine on a regular basis.

You do a fine job of mocking your own country 24/7.

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Originally Posted by tomder55

When he was campaigning in Iowa he was commenting about high prices . But instead of using an example that most Iowans could relate to he said :

“Anybody gone into Whole Foods lately and see what they charge for arugula?” .... “I mean, they’re charging a lot of money for this stuff.”

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Well some people must eat Arugula from Whole foods since he won the Iowa Caucus.

I would vote for McCain over Billary. One she has no spine her husband cheats on her and she stays with him! Two and I know this is a pointless question but really it is not. Someone asked her are you a Mets or Yankees fan and she couldn't answer because she didn't want to offend any voters. If she doesn't want to offend any voters over a question that stupid how can she make decision that are going to offend a lot of people. Three she cried when she lost the Iowa Caucus I can not have my leader crying when they don't get their way.

Walter Williams addressed the outsourcing 'problem' in his column today and asked this question, "Suppose you were choosing a country to live in. Which country would you prefer: a country that has the world champing at the bit to put its money into or one where the world is unwilling to invest?"

I thought it was a good question. He gives some facts and figures but I'm sure that won't matter to some of you.

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Originally Posted by NeedKarma

You do a fine job of mocking your own country 24/7.

LOL, do you need some glasses NK? I don't mock my country, I mock the absurdity emanating from the left... wherever they are.

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Originally Posted by speechlesstx

LOL, do you need some glasses NK? I don't mock my country, I mock the absurdity emanating from the left...wherever they are.

That's what I meant earlier - you can't stand half of the people in your own country. Sad way to live.

I've got a huge website to test before it goes public. Ciao.

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Originally Posted by NeedKarma

That's what I meant earlier - you can't stand half of the people in your own country. Sad way to live.

I've got a huge website to test before it goes public. Ciao.

NK, 6 percent of Americans define themselves as very liberal, another 15 as liberal according to an AP-Ipsos poll last year. 27 percent defined themselves as somewhat conservative, 14 percent as very conservative with 34 percent as moderate. It's that wacko 6 percent that I have no respect for.

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Originally Posted by speechlesstx

Walter Williams addressed the outsourcing 'problem' in his column today and asked this question, "Suppose you were choosing a country to live in. Which country would you prefer: a country that has the world champing at the bit to put its money into or one where the world is unwilling to invest?"

I thought it was a good question. He gives some facts and figures but I'm sure that won't matter to some of you.

While I respect what he says I can't fully believe it since this townhall website is a little bias I mean it is a conservative website especially since they have tee shirts with a smiley face on it that says imagine a world with out liberals. But that was a nice try speech.

Foreign Affairs Magazine on the other hand has never been accused of being biased

Here is their take on outsourcing :

Foreign Affairs - The Outsourcing Bogeyman - Daniel W. Drezner

Summary

According to the election-year bluster of politicians and pundits, the outsourcing of American jobs to other countries has become a problem of epic proportion. Fortunately, this alarmism is misguided. Outsourcing actually brings far more benefits than costs, both now and in the long run. If its critics succeed in provoking a new wave of American protectionism, the consequences will be disastrous -- for the U.S. economy and for the American workers they claim to defend.

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Originally Posted by spitvenom

While I respect what he says I can't fully believe it since this townhall website is a little bias I mean it is a conservative website especially since they have tee shirts with a smiley face on it that says imagine a world with out liberals. But that was a nice try speech.

Featured columnists on that site are:
Michelle Malkin, a known hate monger: Townhall.com::Columnists::Columnist
Bill O'Reilly, well we know about Bill
Chuck Norris, how far he has fallen, now a softie bible thumper
Ann Coulter (see here)

It's a meeting place for the far right fanatics.

Chuck Norris, how far he has fallen, now a softie bible thumper

Lol I don't think I've ever heard him being accused of being a softy before.

Part 3: Demographics, Lifestyle and News Consumption: Beyond Red vs. Blue

Notice how liberals are significantly less likely to own a gun or go to church regularly.
Granted this is from 2004

NATIONAL JOURNAL: Obama: Most Liberal Senator in 2007 (01/31/2008)

Obama is the most liberal senator, and keeping with those views he cannot understand how important faith and gun ownership and immigration does matter, even among his own constituents, let alone in a general election.

He and other liberals, like those in San Francisco that he was speaking to, agree with what he stated and probably do not honestly understand what the big deal is.

Obama may speak for some, but I wonder how many actually examine his posistions on the issues and make a judgement based on compatible viewpoints versus those who see him as some how different from any other politician because he speaks well or looks good.

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Originally Posted by NeedKarma

Featured columnists on that site are:
Michelle Malkin, a known hate monger: Townhall.com::Columnists::Columnist
Bill O'Reilly, well we know about Bill
Chuck Norris, how far he has fallen, now a softie bible thumper
Ann Coulter (see here)

It's a meeting place for the far right fanatics.

I'm always amused at how you guys automatically disregard conservative sources because they're conservative sources... but expect us to be open minded.

I would have posted his column from his own website but he hadn't posted it there yet. But hey, if you don't want to even consider the facts presented by an accomplished African-American with "a B.A. in economics from California State University, Los Angeles, and M.A. and Ph.D. degrees in economics from UCLA...a Doctor of Humane Letters from Virginia Union University and Grove City College, Doctor of Laws from Washington and Jefferson College and Doctor Honoris Causa en Ciencias Sociales from Universidad Francisco Marroquin, in Guatemala, where he is also Professor Honorario," that's up to you. Just don't expect me to be as open minded as you. :D

That article put a twist on it that I never read before I have to think about my position on this issue now. Seriously Tom thanks for sending that article and I apologize to you speech your article was the same but you know I saw that tee shirt and thought ahhh this is BS.

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Originally Posted by inthebox

Obama is the most liberal senator, and keeping with those views he cannot understand how important faith and gun ownership and immigration does matter, even among his own constittuents, let alone in a general election.

He's a liberal, but how does that disqualify him for not understanding the importance of "faith?" Did Limbaugh forget about the Wright controversy already including the parts of Obama's follow-up speech where he proclaimed the right and freedom and importance of religion to Americans? Wow! Maybe Ann Coulter doesn't have certain cable channels and didn't see or hear the Compassion forum aired by CNN just the other day? The whole time Obama was praising the rights of Americans that choose their "faith."

He's a liberal, but Obama not removing all guns from individual ownership. He wanted childproof trigger gaurds, responsible education, and to ban all semi-automatic rifles (which I disagree with).

He's a liberal, but all three candidates, including the Republican conservative "McCain" who advocates amnesty with a bill that McCain himself sponsored, would end up with basically the same results.