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  • Jun 17, 2024, 02:30 AM
    tomder55
    New rules are being disclosed. I can't for the life of me understand why Trump agreed to have the opponent's mike muted while the other one speaks. Part of Trump's debate strategy is the interruption. This rule undermines his method However other rules like having to stand at a podium for 90 minutes works in Trump's favor.

    Now about that cognitive decline of Clueless Joe .............

    That star studded funder in California did not go well for the President . He had another freeze in place moment . He had to be led off the stage by the emperor who grabbed his arm and guided Joe off the stage; hand on back.... puppet and puppet master style

    Chris Gardner on X: "That’s a wrap on record-setting Democratic fundraiser for Joe Biden’s reelection campaign (netting $28M). Former President Barack Obama and President Joe Biden offer final waves to Peacock Theater crowd as Obama then grabs Biden’s hand to lead him offstage following 40-minute https://t.co/xbE2jf3jdz" / X

    https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/i...QvjXo&usqp=CAU

    As the President likes to say "this is no joke folks"
  • Jun 17, 2024, 04:19 AM
    jlisenbe
    I'm glad to see the muted mic rule. Trump tends to make himself look foolish with his constant interruptions. If he would actually spend quality time in preparation, he wouldn't have to. These debates make me a little nervous. If the past is any indicator, Trump will be his usual bombastic, loud-mouthed self. He could very well lose votes just by being a basic axxhole.

    And if Biden is indeed a dottering old man, and if he comes across that way in the debate, then Trump needs to simply let that speak for itself. Anything more will be seen as piling on and meanness.
  • Jun 17, 2024, 04:43 PM
    tomder55
    What WG failed to tell us is that the Dems have hired her to do their messaging

    Stung by the obvious mental fumbing by Clueless Joe in the last week ;a coordinated message by the compliant press echos the whataboutTrump deflection we have read here .

    All in the last hours and over the weekend

    Trump flubs his doctor’s name while boasting about cognitive test (msnbc.com)

    Cognitive Decline? Trump Can’t Stop Fumbling During Rambling Speech | The New Republic

    "He couldn't even remember me": Trump has "severe memory issues," says author who interviewed him | Salon.com

    Trump cognitive decline increasingly difficult to conceal despite setting low bar (msnbc.com)

    Krugman: Trump’s Mental State Is Visibly Getting Much More Alarming | The New Republic

    Trump celebrates 78th birthday amid concerns about mental fitness (msnbc.com)

    "Could not keep a straight thought": CEOs worry about Trump's mental decline after "meandering" talk (yahoo.com)

    Well done WG . How much are the Dems paying for you managing their messaging ?
  • Jun 17, 2024, 07:19 PM
    Wondergirl
    I've been a Republican since I first was legally able to register to vote. I'm not permitted to dislike (for good reason!!!) a Republican candidate?
  • Jun 18, 2024, 12:36 AM
    tomder55
    I don't like Trump either . That is not the point. I just pointed out the coincidence that the Dems have suddenly gone on the attack about Trump. He has always spoken first and thought later .

    There is a CLEAR decline in Clueless. from 4 years ago. Just look at his debate performances in 2020 compared to today. I don't believe the Dems will let him get on stage for 90 minutes. He may be able to get juiced up enough for half that time unscripted

    Did you see his sit down Q&A with the emperor with Jimmy Kimmel of all people being the moderator ? Probably not because the compliant press did not cover it .

    'You know, my, my, my son says, you ought to have a, uh, you know, we all have, uh, various short-term descriptions for your jobs, for what you're accomplished. You should say, 'Joe jobs.'

    This was in front of a very friendly Hollywierdo audience with no one challenging what he said . What will happen in a debate ? The only thing that saves him is that for some strange reason Trump agreed to have 2 moderators hostile to him.
    RNC Research on X: "BIDEN: We have the "highest unemployment" in 50 years! "You know, my, my, my son says, you ought to have a, uh, you know, we all have, uh, various short-term descriptions for your jobs, for what you're accomplished. You should say, 'Joe jobs.'" 😬 https://t.co/UWa8xEdBB8" / X

    But the same compliant press reports from every outlet that Trump forgot the name of the doctor that gave him a cognitive test .
  • Jun 18, 2024, 01:25 AM
    tomder55
    Of course none of this matters if Josh Christianson of the NY Post is correct . The fix is in ;American elections are rigged .

    Quote:

    Welfare offices and other agencies in 49 US states are providing voter registration forms to migrants without requiring proof of citizenship[FONT=Arial, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, sans-serif][COLOR=#2a2a2a]....

    [/COLOR][/FONT]Every state but Arizona — which recently passed a law barring the practice on state but not federal forms — gives applicants for either welfare benefits, driver’s licenses, or in some cases, mail-in ballots voter registration forms without demanding proof of citizenship.
    There is currently no requirement on federal voting forms to provide proof of US citizenship, though it is illegal to falsely claim one is a citizen or for a non-citizen to cast a ballot in a federal election.
    But millions of migrants with humanitarian parole, refugee or asylum status are eligible for benefits that would bring them to the offices where voter registration takes place.

    The National Voter Registration Act (NVRA) of 1993 ordered states to register voters at the Department of Motor Vehicles (DMV) and agencies where Americans apply for public benefits — and those offices are required by federal law to hand over the registration forms along with the application papers.

    If an applicant attests that they are a US citizen, that is considered valid on its face and the person is registered to vote.
    How non-citizens are getting voter registration forms across the US — and how Republicans are trying to stop it (nypost.com)

    Most states don't bother cleaning up their voter rolls or purging them of ineligible voters . Yet the chorus sings "NO evidence of fraud "

    Exhaustive fact check finds little evidence of voter fraud, but 2020’s ‘Big Lie’ lives on | PBS News Hour

    The Times Called Officials in Every State: No Evidence of Voter Fraud - The New York Times (nytimes.com)

    William Barr says there is no evidence of widespread fraud in US presidential election | CNN Politics

    Requiring proof of citizenship is considered voter suppression. Yes it is suppression ;it is to suppress the illegal vote. Even voter ID is ineffective in preventing illegals to vote since they can produce valid Federal and State ID under this law.

    The National Voter Registration Act (NVRA) aka "motor voter" is a creation of Senator Chris Dodd that was signed by Bubba . The damage Dodd did to this nation in his tenure is incalculable . Besides destroying election integrity he and Rep Barney Frank were most responsible for the financial collapse of 2008 that helped usher in the era of the emperor .
  • Jun 18, 2024, 03:24 AM
    tomder55
    as far as Trump support with Black voters ;this is data from Trump hating CNN

    Quote:

    the most recent polling data compared to polls at the same point of the 2020 campaign show Trump “careening towards a historic performance” among black voters. The presumptive Republican nominee is up 14 points — from 7% support from black voters at this point in 2020 to 21% now, according to CNN’s data. Meanwhile, Biden has fallen 16 points, sitting at 70% among black voters now compared to 86% at this point in 2020.
    CNN Polling Expert Says Trump ‘Careening Towards A Historic Performance’ Among Black Voters (dailywire.com)
  • Jun 18, 2024, 10:23 AM
    Wondergirl
    Neither Trump NOR Biden should run for US president. Both are too old already! -- plus four more years in office???
  • Jun 19, 2024, 02:15 AM
    tomder55
    Shame on the Dems for continuing to deny the President has serious cognitive decline . Millions of Americans have had to deal with family and friends who suffer some form of dementia and we know what we are seeing . Shame on KJP ;the Dems ;and the compliant press for going with the complete BS we heard yesterday that what we are looking at is deep and cheap fakes . You are all liars !!!\

    White House Calls Biden Videos 'Fake', Sparking Republican Outrage - Newsweek

    Video: White House pushes back on GOP claims Biden froze during fundraiser | CNN Politics



    What you are doing is misinformation on an Orwellian scale.

    “The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.”

    (George Orwell '1984')

    announces executive action to protect undocumented spouses of U.S. citizens — 6/18/24 (youtube.com)



    If I am Trump during the debate I say "I yield my time to my opponent ..... let him keep talking"
  • Jun 19, 2024, 04:28 AM
    jlisenbe
    Quote:

    If I am Trump during the debate I say "I yield my time to my opponent ..... let him keep talking"
    I suspect Biden will be hyped up enough with prescription meds to at least keep from looking comatose. But yes, by all means Trump should allow Biden to simply look old and feeble. During his time, he might want to try putting forward a coherent plan for moving forward, but that is probably far too much to hope for.
  • Jun 19, 2024, 04:33 AM
    tomder55
    He's got it . It's called ' Project 25' although the Dems and the compliant press make it out to be 'Mein Kampf '

    2025_MandateForLeadership_FULL.pdf (project2025.org)




    Democratic lawmaker slams Project 25 as 'un-American' (thehill.com)

    Project 2025, if allowed, will cement America as a rightwing authoritarian state • Michigan Advance

    Trump’s Project 2025 plot would take ‘wrecking ball’ to US institutions, key Democrat warns | Republicans | The Guardian
  • Jun 19, 2024, 12:01 PM
    jlisenbe
    Thought about reading it until I saw it is over 900 pages long. Someone should remind him of the wildly successful Contract With American.

    Quote:

    On the first day of their majority in the House, the Republicans promised to bring up for vote, eight major reforms:[5][6]

    1. Require all laws that apply to the rest of the country also apply to Congress;
    2. Select a major, independent auditing firm to conduct a comprehensive audit of Congress for waste, fraud or abuse;
    3. Cut the number of House committees, and cut committee staff by one-third;
    4. Limit the terms of all committee chairs;
    5. Ban the casting of proxy votes in committee;
    6. Require committee meetings to be open to the public;
    7. Require a three-fifths majority vote to pass a tax increase;
    8. Guarantee an honest accounting of the federal budget by implementing zero base-line budgeting.

  • Jun 19, 2024, 01:52 PM
    tomder55
    It is easy
    1. Create a smaller Federal Government The bureaucracy is and should be under executive control .The President should be the boss. Some agencies need to be eliminated some need to be overhauled .Some independent agencies need to be brought under reign of the Executive Reinstitute Schedule F to reclassify some Federal workers to give the President more authority to fire them if needed.

    .Eliminating woke and DEI from all laws and federal regulations

    2 Immigration complete the wall . As with all the agencies consolidate and streamline. He also proposes fast tracking some immigration as needed or as the applicant can pay

    3. Climate and economy . Drill baby drill. Defund green new steal . Increase tariffs while at the same time having bilateral free trade deals.

    Taxes cut corporate taxes and income taxes .(I could go on a whole essay on how funding a limited government with tariffs was good until the 1913 when the 16th amendment was passed. The government has grown in proportion to how much the government can appropriate from the people. )

    4 Abortion It takes no position beyond taking mifepristone off the market .

    5 Education school choice and parental control .

    Day one Trump will start implementing Day one the law suits against it will begin.

    6 America's role in the world would be redefined and reset including an honest assessment of who our enemies and friends are .We would still be in a great power game with a focus on China. Strategic and economic decoupling with China is recommended DHS would be dismantled . Some of it incorporated into the DOD .Some in more logical domestic agencies Modernize the nuclear arsenal to deter both China and Russia.
    Other ideas is to reduce or eliminate participation in global agencies and defund accordingly. (IMF World Bank )

    Trump of course would have a final say and he has been known to pivot in the past .

    Also this was compiled by conservative allies . But Trump is not as conservative as people pretend he is . He supposedly has his own priorities that has not been published officially yet.
  • Jun 19, 2024, 02:39 PM
    tomder55
    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GQcqj62X...png&name=small
  • Jun 19, 2024, 03:00 PM
    tomder55
    New video (not deep fake) shows Joe struggling to enter a Suburban on his way to a beach retreat before he heads to Camp David for debate prep. Secret Service gave him a boost .

    Trump War Room on X: "Crooked Joe Biden—who is hardly ambulatory at this point—had a really hard time getting into the SUV 😬 https://t.co/KjoUFFeJow" / X

    Meanwhile Kam the Sham hosted Queer Eye cast at the White House.

    Vice President Kamala Harris on X: "The cast of @QueerEye joined me at the White House to discuss the hard-fought progress the LGBTQI+ community has made in the past 20 years. Thank you for a meaningful conversation, for giving my office your stamp of approval, and for being fabulous. https://t.co/L3pzaYpo1W" / X
  • Jun 19, 2024, 07:52 PM
    jlisenbe
    I would suggest they add this to Project 25.

    Guarantee an honest accounting of the federal budget by implementing zero base-line budgeting.
  • Jun 20, 2024, 02:42 AM
    tomder55
    You, and every American, owes $100,000 . Pay up

    You owe $100,000 | Opinion | standard-journal.com
  • Jun 20, 2024, 03:01 AM
    tomder55
    New theory ;going to Camp David has nothing to do with debate prep . The real reason for the sequester is to keep Clueless Joe out of the news for a week. A week of no stumbles mumbles and gaffes combined with KJP introducing the Orwellian term "cheap fakes " into the compliant press vernacular is the real goal .

    Cheap fake = editing a second of a video showing Joe wandering off aimlessly until Giorgia Meloni shepherds him back in line as a border collie would do a sheep .

    Deep fake = The compliant press editing Trump's words in Charlottesville.

    Deep State fake = Evita paying for Steele Dossier and the FBI using it as a pretext to persecute Trump.
  • Jun 20, 2024, 04:26 AM
    jlisenbe
    Quote:

    Deep State fake = Evita paying for Steele Dossier and the FBI using it as a pretext to persecute Trump.
    A crime for which I hope Trump, if elected, will hold the guilty responsible, at least to the point of getting the truth before the public eye.
  • Jun 20, 2024, 04:45 AM
    tomder55
    Cheap fake = Jill Biden(the great enabling "doctor") calling out Robert Hur for bringing up Beau Biden's death when in fact it was Joe who brought it up during his interview with the Special Council.

    She also laughingly suggested that Joe's age is an advantage.

    Jill Biden, in message to supporters, calls out special counsel's mention of Beau Biden's death - ABC News (go.com)

    Transcript of Biden interview with Robert Hur reveals key details | AP News


    The compliant press and the bleating sheep of the left have their talking point going into the debates .

    Jane Fonda: I’m Older Than Biden and He’s ‘Just Fine’ (yahoo.com)

    The Daily Show: Jon Stewart Talks Trump's Hypocrisy About Biden's Age (deadline.com)

    Right-wing media misleadingly used a video from a fundraiser to renew their attacks on Biden's age | Media Matters for America

    Republicans Target Biden Over His Age With Deceptive Videos (rollingstone.com)

    How Biden can push back on Trump attacks about his age (msnbc.com)

    Mark Cuban spars with Piers Morgan and Bill Ackman over Biden videos, age (thehill.com)

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