Why do people in authority (politicians, clergy, educators, et al.) lie?

POWER ..... the desire to have it ;the fear of losing it . They know they can get away with it because often their followers live in echo chambers and don't want to know an alternative . They believe that if they tell the lie enough times it becomes the truth .

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They know they can get away with it because often their followers live in echo chambers and don't want to know an alternative . They believe that if they tell the lie enough times it becomes the truth

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Which is exactly why committed liberal dems set their hair on fire about a supposed Trump lie, but then have no comment on established incidents of lying by HC, BC, and Biden other than trying to excuse them.

I really struggle to understand that. If lying is bad, then it's bad for everyone. If a person is selective in their criticism, then it is plain that something other than a dislike of lying is driving the narrative.

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Originally Posted by tomder55

Why do people in authority (politicians, clergy, educators, et al.) lie?

POWER ..... the desire to have it ;the fear of losing it . They know they can get away with it because often their followers live in echo chambers and don't want to know an alternative . They believe that if they tell the lie enough times it becomes the truth .

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Perfectly said, Tom!

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Originally Posted by jlisenbe

Which is exactly why committed liberal dems set their hair on fire about a supposed Trump lie, but then have no comment on established incidents of lying by HC, BC, and Biden other than trying to excuse them.

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It works that way for repubs too.

Good morning, WG.

"It works that way for repubs too." That is certainly true. I was more referring to people on this board. I don't see the point in posting about Trump's supposed lie, but then being curiously silent about lies from BC, HC, and Biden. Either we re opposed to lying, or we just want to be critical of DT.

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Originally Posted by jlisenbe

Good morning, WG.

"It works that way for repubs too." That is certainly true. I was more referring to people on this board. I don't see the point in posting about Trump's supposed lie, but then being curiously silent about lies from BC, HC, and Biden. Either we re opposed to lying, or we just want to be critical of DT.

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I'm still waiting for you to give me three examples of lies by Trump and Biden. You don't want to stay after school to work on this, do you?

Wayyyy too late for that, I'm afraid. I've done all the work so far. I know you would not want to pass up this chance to up your quality of work from the distressingly poor conclusion you reached about HC.

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Wayyyy too late for that, I'm afraid. I've done all the work so far.

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You did not complete the assignment. You told ME to find Trump's lies.

https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/images...quote_icon.png Originally Posted by jlisenbe https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/images...post-right.pngYou can look up Trump lies. Just be aware that the one claimed by Athos was hardly a lie. That has been documented earlier.

No, this time YOU list three Trump lies. You're so good at picking out lies; this is your golden opportunity!

But you don’t get to pass out assignments. Why do lib dems always want someone else to do their work? Nah. I’ve shown I can do the research. Now it’s your turn.

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Originally Posted by tomder55

yeah I get it .... Trump/Repubs bad

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Took you long enough.

PS - Not just bad - far worse than that. Try attempting to overthrow the duly-elected president and continuing the Big Lie as devotees of Trump. It's inconceivable why you continue to support the madman Trump.

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But you don’t get to pass out assignments. Why do lib dems always want someone else to do their work? Nah. I’ve shown I can do the research. Now it’s your turn.

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It's because you'd have to list lies by Trump, isn't it. Aha! And I can pass out assignments because it's MY thread.

YOU posted: Why have Trump and Biden repeatedly lied about all sorts of things? Then you mentioned three lies by Biden, but didn't bother to mention any Trump's lies -- and told me to find them myself.

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No, this time YOU list three Trump lies. You're so good at picking out lies; this is your golden opportunity!

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He will NEVER list Trump lies, WG. Trump does not allow a negative truth told against him. His followers are keenly aware of that.

I did the research on bc, hc, and jb which you don’t care to address. You have no room to sermonize.

Besides, WG needs her chance at redemption.

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I did the research on bc, hc, and jb which you don’t care to address. You have no room to sermonize.

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You did not complete the assignment.

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Besides, WG needs her chance at redemption.

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I have been redeemed and will spend eternity with my Lord and Savior.

Not on the basis of your poor work on the hc Kosovo fairytale. Really bad look for a retired librarian. We expected much better.

I mean REALLY! Aren't you terribly embarrassed by this swing and a miss? "Considering the extreme danger in the place where she was going and the prep taken, it would have been natural to exaggerate later." There is no part of that which is even close to being right. Did you do better work than that as a librarian? I hope so.

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Not on the basis of your poor work on the hc Kosovo fairytale. Really bad look for a retired librarian. We expected much better.

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Did you miss my comment?: "I can't stand her! I looked at several articles on sites I respect and dug up what I posted about her comments."

I did see that. You are basically saying you did research and yet missed the truth by a mile. Am I supposed to feel better now??? Like I said. It's a really bad look for a retired librarian. It's like a math teacher deciding that six times six equals twelve.

In fact it bears repeating. "Considering the extreme danger in the place where she was going and the prep taken, it would have been natural to exaggerate later." Unreal!!

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I did see that. You are basically saying you did research and yet missed the truth by a mile.

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Nope, I didn't miss the truth. Please read more carefully.

I'm sure you've never exaggerated later.

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Nope, I didn't miss the truth. Please read more carefully.

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And now you are doubling down on it. Hilarious!! "Six times six DOES equal twelve!!"

Here. I'll break it down for you.

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Considering the extreme danger in the place where she was going

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There was no danger at all at the airport as the CBS video clearly shows. And there was NO "corkscrew" landing.

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and the prep taken,

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The prep was to have a nice collection of people there who all looked happy and relaxed.

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it would have been natural to exaggerate later."

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Only if you think "exaggerate" means, "to lie like a dog".

Do you see your errors now? NONE of it was valid.

No errors by me. I had prefaced that with:

Hillary said during her campaign: