has anyone pointed out there are some high mountains in the way of that route, might as well build a roadQuote:
Originally Posted by tomder55
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has anyone pointed out there are some high mountains in the way of that route, might as well build a roadQuote:
Originally Posted by tomder55
Not far but it has moved, good news for someone anyway
The wind beached it, the tide unbeached it. Man watched.
Iran thinks it is a viable route but besides mountains ;the route employs passage through the Artic Barents Sea, Kara Sea, Laptev Sea, East Siberian Sea, Chukchi Sea, and partially the Bering Sea in the Pacific Ocean.
What are you talking about, it is the Caspian route?
Not entirely trueQuote:
Originally Posted by talaniman
Yep. That's not correct at all. If man had just "watched", the ship would still be blocking the canal.Quote:
the tide unbeached it.
I sure thought the Suez Canal was bigger than that!! 8D
so did joe
https://www.news.com.au/national/bre...164d47386382f7
the Ever Given has been seized by Egypt, apparently the Japanese owners don't think they should compensate Egypt in any way. the claim is $900 million so there she stays with $7 billion in goods which is a lesson to shippers, don't put your container on the biggest carrier. What price China's Belt and Road now, the alternative must be looking good
No doubt they'll eventually hash it out!
No they will make a hash of it while they smoke their hash
lol maybe we should put freight on the back of the camel .Quote:
What price China's Belt and Road now, the alternative must be looking good
There is too much reliance on freight transportation by road already .
It was a freak accident . I don't know exactly the liability laws . Seems to me that Egypt is holding the ship and freight as hostage .
no the ship was salvaged, there is a bill, no doubt subject to negotiation, this wouldn't be the first ship seized for costs, my own government has done the same when dealing with recaliciant ownersQuote:
Originally Posted by tomder55
That does seem to make sense.Quote:
no the ship was salvaged, there is a bill, no doubt subject to negotiation, this wouldn't be the first ship seized for costs, my own government has done the same when dealing with recaliciant owners
salvage aside ;Clete was trying to make the point that this is an example of why land transport of goods is a better option. I disagree ;especially when speaking of an alternative being the Belt and Road . The Silk Road was a sound idea during the days of Marco Polo ;and stayed that way until the Fall of Constantinople . Then the world realized that it needed a reliable movement of goods over the seas .
Well Tom I sure alternatives will be explored, the Polar route is an erstwhile option but this suggests we should stop building bigger and bigger ships and perhaps make them faster, meanwhile overland routes could be significantly upgraded
Land transport would be far more expensive and likely subject to many more hinderances. Bigger and faster ships are a great idea.Quote:
salvage aside ;Clete was trying to make the point that this is an example of why land transport of goods is a better option
Until they get stuck in the canal, sunk in storms. Being bigger doesn't mean faster, in fact the biggest ships are slow ponderous beasts. If land transport is so expensive why are there fleets of huge trucks on the highways, Land transport has proven to be fast and relatively inexpensive, the only reason we still use ships is there are no bridges between continents and the infrastructure isn't up to the standard neededQuote:
Originally Posted by jlisenbe
Which happens once every bazillion years.Quote:
Until they get stuck in the canal, sunk in storms.
Who said it did?Quote:
Being bigger doesn't mean faster,
That and the fact that it is FAR cheaper to ship by container ship.Quote:
the only reason we still use ships is there are no bridges between continents
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