William Barr as Attorney General,has no more urgent task than restoring some public trust.He could start by explaining to the public,in a major speech,where the FBI went so badly wrong and what he will do to make sure it never happens again.

If that McCabe 60 Minutes interview didn’t scare the hell out of you, with regard to the dangerous power of big govt, then you weren’t listening. That one interview should’ve created millions of new libertarians & constitutional conservatives if people were paying attention.

Yeah, let Barr explain why all the dufus hired hands lied, commit crimes and go to jail, Us progressives would love to know before we go jumping ship or believe this lying cheating dufus isn't so far up Vlad's behind he burps orange.

I'll wait for the Mueller Report thank you.

You might be waiting a long time

I got time if the grand finale to this dufus drama is worth it. The dots have been connected a long time and if you think Roger Stone is the last dot, I have a dufus you can have real cheap. Maybe Kim or Vlad will give him asylum.

I think you need to prepare to be disappointed.

There is reliable speculation that the Mueller report will not be released to the public.

What is alarming is that the leadership of the Justice Dept seriously considered asking the Secs of

Agriculture, Commerce, Education, Energy, Health and Human Services, Housing and Urban Development, Interior, Labor, Transportation, to determine if the President is capable of performing his elected responsibilities.( sec 4 of the 25th Amendment ) .This thought was delusional for a number of reasons. Only Congress can remove the President ,even under terms of the 25th . And in that case ,it is harder to remove a President than impeachment . It requires 2/3 of BOTH houses to remove a President if the President disputes that he is unable to perform his duties.

What counts as presidential “inability.”That is the unanswered question in the 25th . If this was seriously tried ,and went through the process,it would be a SCOTUS call.

That is what I have heard as well. There will be a summary statement prepared, as I understand it, by Mueller, and that is what will be released. There are too many confidential areas for the entire report to be released. Of course at the rate he is proceeding, we might all be dead and gone by the time he gets finished.

yup and even in the very extreme unlikely event that the report is damning to the President ;there is nothing that can remove Trump from office except impeachment or the 2020 election results.

The silence was deafening when Pence mentioned the dufus and called for the Euro's to leave the Iran agreement, even from the repub delegation, and we have yet to see what gets the cut for his border wall emergency.

The emergency declaration is silly and counter-productive. He should build the 50 miles approved and then come back for more later . In the immortal words of Ronald Reagan when asked why he accepted less than he had requested :

Here is what Reagan said when asked why he accepted a compromise. :

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"I’m not retreating an inch from where I was. But I also recognize this: There are some people who would have you so stand on principle that if you don’t get all that you’ve asked for from the legislature, why, you jump off the cliff with the flag flying.
I have always figured that a half a loaf is better than none, and I know that in the democratic process you’re not going to always get everything you want. So, I think what they’ve misread is times in which I have compromised — for example, our entire economic program.I proposed three 10-percent-a-year cuts in the income tax, retroactive to January 1st, 1981. There was no way I could get that with the House of Representatives dominated by the other party. So, I settled for a 5-percent cut the first year, not retroactive but on October 30 — or on October 1st, the beginning of the fiscal year; then two following 10-percent cuts. Well, I think 25 percent, a little delayed in starting, was better than going down fighting and not getting anything at all.
And I wish that I could get more people to realize, no, I have not retreated from what was our original purpose. I am very stubborn in that regard. And I’m just going to have to try and communicate better, and make people realize that, you know, I come back and I ask for more the next time around."

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I think you about nailed it, Tomder. Of course, with the national debt continuing to skyrocket and no one, either dem or repub, paying any attention to it, we are not going to a good place anyway.

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I think you about nailed it, Tomder. Of course, with the national debt continuing to skyrocket and no one, either dem or repub, paying any attention to it, we are not going to a good place anyway.

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You know I cannot understand how your government cannot see your debt levels as a national emergency, ours had apoplexy at levels much lower than yours and although we haven't reduced it, we have dragged the budget back to equilibrium and hopefully surplus
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Clete the fault lies in the people. The pols stopped making the debt a big deal because the people stopped making it a big deal. You can't fault either party. The GOP used to have a full faction of fiscal conservatives . Now there is a handful. It is one of the reasons I am not a Republican. The name of the game now is who can offer the most freebies ?

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Clete the fault lies in the people. The pols stopped making the debt a big deal because the people stopped making it a big deal. You can't fault either party. The GOP used to have a full faction of fiscal conservatives . Now there is a handful. It is one of the reasons I am not a Republican. The name of the game now is who can offer the most freebies ?

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So true, Tom. The only comment I would add is that there is a vacuum of leadership on this issue. Bush 2 completely blew it on this. He inherited a balanced budget, and then proceeded to use the war as an excuse to spend, spend, spend. Dems give out freebies and repubs cut taxes, so here we are.

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o true, Tom. The only comment I would add is that there is a vacuum of leadership on this issue. Bush 2 completely blew it on this. He inherited a balanced budget, and then proceeded to use the war as an excuse to spend, spend, spend. Dems give out freebies and repubs cut taxes, so here we are.

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Must be wonderful to live in a fool's paradise, living on OPM or even worse quantative easing

Yeah. Thank goodness the Aussies don't have any national debt. No, wait. Is that right??

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Yeah. Thank goodness the Aussies don't have any national debt. No, wait. Is that right??

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As I have said before, we have debt but it certainly doesn't exceed our GDP and we will turn a surplus this year. Our debt is due to the way you idiots managed debt causing an international meltdown ten yearss ago. Please tell me how Trump intends to have the US budget return to surplus, and those idiot demonrats certainly don't

Yeah. It's always someone else's fault. Your budget deficits far predate ten years ago.

Debt is not necessarily a bad thing.I have financed property with debt for most of my adult life .I anticipate getting a decent return on that investment . The ability to pay the interest is what has to be watched because a greater percentage of the tax collection is needed to service the debt. The US is in a bad situation because our debt is in a large part owned by foreign powers (some of them hostile ) .If they wanted to cause problems they could dump our debt which would probably mean that we would have to give a higher rate of return to attract new investors . If push came to shove ,the government could easily sell off assets for debt reduction.(aka the government owns about a third of the total land of the US .) Debt approaching GDP and surpassing the GDP is where we are at ;and that is dangerous . It is also not fair to the next generation to be living on their future obligations .

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Yeah. It's always someone else's fault. Your budget deficits far predate ten years ago.

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Our budget was in a great place ten years ago before you engineered a financial crisis. Capitalism gone mad coupled with social engineering in a nation with a big history of exploiting people. The top third of your nation does well on the backs of the others and you think this is good and desirable.

Sadly that financial crisis coincided with the idiot left assuming power here about the same time it did in your own nation and this exaserbated the problem as it did in your own