gotta give the Schmuckster credit . He knows when to fold a weak hand . He now gets to vote another day ;a deal he could've had Friday .

I think his point is made though, they don't have to cave to The Dufus, or Moron Mitch. LOL, Tom, I wouldn't try screwing with Chuck on this DACA fix, or a few other things. Take it as a warning shot across the repubs bow. Dufus has veto power, but the votes say OVERRIDE!

the vote was to end filibuster . Note the most extreme Dems voted against it .

Had the sound down while I was reading the breaking news so we wait for the vote count, and the details. .

Blumenthal, Cortez-Masto, Feinstein, Gillibrand, Harris, Hirono, Leahy, Menendez, Merkley, Murphy, Sanders, Tester, Warren, Booker

all voted no .

so what did the Schmuckster accomplish ?

He got a debate on a Dreamer bill McConnell said he'd have anyway

He exposed lack of popular support for Dems' Dreamer obsession
He caved on the Wall, which is now part of baseline for new negotiations.

so what did the Schmuckster accomplish ?

He got a debate on a Dreamer bill McConnell said he'd have anyway

He got a PUBLIC commitment for a FAIR debate, and many republicans publically agreed to hold his a$$ to it no matter what the Dufus says when he gets out of the closet Kelly locked him into.

He exposed lack of popular support for Dems' Dreamer obsession

That lack of support was in comparison to the shutdown, but nationally among the citizens it's a very popular topic. That included a vast majority of repubs.

He caved on the Wall, which is now part of baseline for new negotiations.

Dufus was going to get something for a wall, the form that takes though may not be as big and beautiful as he thinks, just because even repubs think it's a perfect waste of money! For sure rich guy's ain't paying for it, or their kids. If Mexico doesn't come through, then that leaves me and you Tom, so are you ready to ante up?

I don't get this why doesn't the military use the border fro training with search and capture exercises

yes Tal I'm willing to pay for it because my taxes pay for the welfare of the invaders now . I think a wall will save me money.

You can stop all this quickly by erecting a banking wall, no remittances. It means those in the US would have to take a trip and once across the border good luck at getting back