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The plaintiffs in this case had a very weak argument, and given that they lost the original case and also every round of appeals it's not surprising that the supremes decided the way they did. The intent of the law was clear, and frankly if the supremes had decided for the palintiffs it would have been a disaster for millions of people, which the Republicans in Congress (among others) would certainly not want to have to deal with.
Repubs are probably more relieved than anybody else, because they can keep hollering foul, but don't have to reveal the specifics of their own better grand plan, which everybody knows was lip service anyway.
Tell Cruz game over!
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Originally Posted by ebaines
In this instance, the context and structure of the Act compel us to depart from what would otherwise be the most natural reading of the pertinent statutory phrase. says Roberts . Night is Day and Day is Night . Humpty Dumpty did eventually fall off the wall.
The disaster you predict would've happened only would've happened because the Democrat Congress rammed a disasterous law up our keyster .
You keep saying that while ignoring the many proposals the Repubics have proposed ...Most recently by Senator Ron Johnson of Wisc.Quote:
Originally Posted by talaniman
A tight keyster is covered under the law, and repubs can put the proposals in writing and pass them if they so chose.
Here is the clear intent from one of the authors of the lawQuote:
Originally Posted by ebaines
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=34rttqLh12U
I expect we will be treated to 18 months of attacks on obamacare as the presidential race hots up, it's a gift for any candidate to exploit and with so many in the race opinions will be unbridled
Of the 6 million that would have lost their subsidy, how many were young people who did not really want to buy insurance in the first place?
Was to be expected but they will change their mind when the "tax" bites, it's a matter of education sometimes you have to get bitten in the pocket
Relating back, there is something wrong with the healthcare system. The "Obamacare did not fix it, and market pricing will find its way up over time.
As an example, for what it is worth, I just bought new health insurance plans for myself and my son. (my wife has a health care plan subsidized by the Chinese government)
The plan for my son is about 100 USD a month, with a 150 USD deductable and pays 100 percent after that. It is good in any country of the word, except for United States. Anywhere in Europe and Asia. The company is one of the major companies in the US market.
My wife, pays about 200 USD a year for a fairly complete hospital plan. (not doctor office visits)
There will be an out of control spiraling of costs. We are looking at increased penalties ....oops I mean taxes for young-uns which will mean more of their limited income that they need to set up families will be going to a bloated plan they don't need for their care . Basically theirs pays for the geezers .Quote:
Originally Posted by Fr_Chuck
We will also see that states have NO more incentive to run exchanges and will drop out knowing that the Feds will be picking up the tab /subsidies.
We are looking at the employer madate kicking in (unless the emperor and the IRS decrees a delay in that too ). Employers will more frequently decide that it's more economical to drop their employees medical benefits and let the nanny state cover them in the national exchange.
Already doctors are getting out of the primary care business. Here we see these drive in clinics popping up all over the place . Nurses and Physician Assistance check you out and only refer you to an MD specialist if they cannot prescribe some drug for you to solve your medical problem. Often they just tell you to go to the ER.
And now we are looking at the reality that it's impossibe to do wholesale changes on this pig of a law because we have an uber - legislator appointed for life sitting as the Chief Justice of the United States .
In this instance, the context and structure of the Act compel us to depart from what would otherwise be the most natural reading of the pertinent statutory phrase.
WTF ????? Who gave him that power ? I'm for impeaching him .
You love picking out tidbits that support your opinions and that's okay, but as usual there is a lot more that can be considered,
The 8 Best Lines From the Supreme Court Decision That Saved Obamacare | Mother Jones
It doesn't take a rocket scientist to even see the benefits and positives the law has already brought to real people and one would wonder if you Tom would feel the same way if you were one of those that the free market left behind by not being able to afford health insurance at all. Even if you are under employer subsidized insurance, I doubt you would be keen on losing your benefits and not be compensated with a bigger paycheck would you?
I would imagine then that every Republican presidential candidate will have high on his platform a statement about repealing of ACA. Let's see how this plays out.
The republicans have been hollering repeal the ACA for the last 4 years non stop. They have been trying to repeal social security, medicare, and voting rights even longer. They are always hollering. Nature of the beast.
I see Cruz wants to repeal net neutrality - I don't think he even knows what that is.
It would be a waste of time as long as SCOTUS is a branch of the legislature and the emperor sits on the throne . It will have to be replaced incrimentally . I expect the medical device tax will be repealed 1st .Quote:
Originally Posted by NeedKarma
Maybe you didn't listen to this from Gruber ;the architect of Obamacare . Listen very closely at the 25 second point to the end.Quote:
Originally Posted by talaniman
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=34rttqLh12U
The intent of the law was clear ,and the clear language of the law left no ambiguity for interpretation.
That's just one guy Tom, and he is entitled to his opinion.
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Another debate ends badly for the right! What a week!
yes and we did not even talk about that Texas case they decided which upheld disparate-impact claims . It's a dark week for the nation and the Constitution. If we weren't in a post-Constitutional America before ;we are now .Quote:
Another debate ends badly for the right! What a week!
Nope ,it is the way the law was intentionally written . The emperor and his IRS changed the law when he saw that the states weren't buying his bs.Quote:
That's just one guy Tom, and he is entitled to his opinion.
This will all come back to bite the Dems when and if an imperial Repubic becomes President . We'll see how they react to the tricks when the worm turns .
Yes it has been a quite a week for the conservatives:
Jon Stewart come back! LOLQuote:
Bristol Palin, who launched an abstinence campaign after giving birth as an unwed teenage mother, announced Thursday she is pregnant with her second child out-of-wedlock.
Totally agree Tom, a republican president and congress is a dark future for everybody except really rich guys.
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