I guess Bush was more inept than we all thought.

Bush left this country in far better shape than its ever been since Obama started destroying everything.

Why didn't he closed all those democrat loopholes?

Because the President isn't a King, or Emporer. Even though Obama seems to think he is.

THere are over 270 bills passed by the house sitting in the Senate that have not seen the light of day because the mental deficient Harry Ried refuses to let the Senate see any of them.


Blame it on Harry Ried...

So Democrats can create loopholes for themselves that Republicans can't remove. Gotcha. Once again you prove how limp the repubs are. They like waging war but they also like their tax loopholes and their corporate donations.

Things work a little different here in the USA than they apaprently work in Canada.

The president doesn't write tax code, Tax code is Law... Law isn't written by the president.

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The president doesn't write tax code

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Loopholes exist because Democrats created them for themselves and their fellow democrats.

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How did they do that?

Obviously with republican help

NK... exactly on what Planet does Democrat automatically equal President? THere is a long history of Presidents NOT being Democrats.

The USA does NOT have a parlament... If you understood a bit about how laws are made in this country... the rest would be obvious to you.

All right, this is pointless, you just evade everything... again.

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No Tom that's a flat earth type of guy, but let us talk about effective tax rates shall we, which is reality where as the pro tem rate is aspirational. Corporations are not freightened off by the pro tem rate but by the tax regime and the business climate. It costs a lot to do business and a complex tax system is the problem. If the BK business comes from overseas it makes sense to seek a lower taxing regime

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Tal complains about the evil rich guy taking advantage of complex loop holes that were designed specifically for the rich guy to exploit. I propose a solution that is equitable and I'm the one accused of being a flat earther ? You are 100 % correct in saying that our complex tax system makes American businesses less competititve . Warren Buffett is one of the primary beneficiaries thanks in no small part to his cronies in the Democrat ranks .

I don't think there is much of an argument that the Repubic establishment is part of the problem . The difference between the Dems and Repubs is in degrees . The beltway Repubics are content having a share in being caretakers of the crony state .

NK.. pull your head out of your azz and stop this annoying horse manure... I find it hard to believe you are a dense as you are acting.

Such a petulant child. What got you in a tizzy this time?

You must not be getting any... so if you aren't...deal with it yourself, you are the petulant little child here. Did you even attend school? I seriously doubt you did based on MOST of your arguments or posts in this forum.

Proobibly never left the town you were born and raised in based on your lack of knowledge about world events... and certainly events in the USA... Lets hope you actually know more about Canadian things than you know about American things.

Ok, have a great day, internet troll!

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Tom let's correct the evil rich guy, with greedy rich guy, as obviously profits over people is the capitalist business model, that enriches and protects Wall Street at the degradation of Main St. The flat tax isn't fair because it raises prices, and lowers incomes, on already hard pressed segments of society, AND local governments, and degrades the once robust middle class, the life blood of the American (AND global) economy.

Those loopholes, mostly the machinations of lobbyists and special interests should have been closed decades ago. It was foolish to lower taxes while pushing TWO wars in the first place. The very notion that corporations actually pay the taxes they scream are too high is preposterous in more than just facts, and was evidenced clearly by Romney during his campaign and his ability to manipulate his own taxes so easily. Didn't you pay attention to Bill Gate who can "give away" half his earnings and still has full control over it?

Rich guys have plenty of tricks, and traps, and influence that makes sympathy for their plight a joke, perpetrated on the true believer capitalists like yourself. Flat tax is a flat earth belief, dreamed up by a rich guys accountant. Warren Buffett and his shareholders mock you with the truth, and laugh all the way to the bank, because of a lack of action.

Go ahead call them names, like they care.

thank you for a preview of Elizabeth Warren's 2016 stump speech. What a flat tax would "raise " is tremendous economic growth and standards of living across the income spectrum.It would broaden the tax base and raise revenues.
As an added bonus ,it would put thousands of high priced tax lawyers and accountants out of business ,and reduce thousands of pages of code and regulation.

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thank you for a preview of Elizabeth Warren's 2016 stump speech. What a flat tax would "raise " is tremendous economic growth and standards of living across the income spectrum.It would broaden the tax base and raise revenues.
As an added bonus ,it would put thousands of high priced tax lawyers and accountants out of business ,and reduce thousands of pages of code and regulation.

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Tom you keep waving this banner and you think that lower tax rates mean less legislation. When did you last see legislation repealed? No one wants to reduce the loopholes and the complexity

Simplified tax forms and flat taxes would put an entire industry of tax preparers and Tax lawyers out of business. And we know which of those two have the money to grease the palms of the connected.

If the U.S. doesn't want corporations to evade taxes, why don't they just lower the corporate tax rate? Canada, Switzerland and Ireland have much lower rates. It would attract a lot more business and maybe there would be less tax dodging.