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It's your right to believe that but I think you'd be sorely disappointed.

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You don't remember reading about all the lowlife types Jesus used to hang around with -- and even EAT with?

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I wonder what would happen if a Black deli owner refused to cater a local KKK chapter event ? ....or a gay owner forced to cater to an American Family Association meeting ? Last year there was a band that pulled out of performing at a Boy Scout Jamboree because of the groups position on allowing gay scouts. Wonder why they should have such discriminatory rights ?

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Train no less.

Train Drops Out to Protest Boy Scouts’ Anti-Gay Policy - ABC News

Seems they got a lot of support for backing out of their booking, no disconnect there, eh?

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You don't remember reading about all the lowlife types Jesus used to hang around with -- and even EAT with?

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We're supposed to do that, but you'll be hard pressed to find where he ever participated in, encouraged or approved of their sins.

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Train no less.

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That's a private business, not a bakery on Main Street.

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That's a private business, not a bakery on Main Street.

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I fail to see how that matters, Train earns its profits from the public, they booked the gig and THEN backed out.

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We're supposed to do that, but you'll be hard pressed to find where he ever participated in, encouraged or approved of their sins.

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First of all, the sin you are talking about is not a sin. The OT passage in Lev. has been mistranslated and misunderstood for centuries. The same goes for what St. Paul wrote. There are Bible historians who believe Paul himself was gay.

So Jesus talking with and even eating a meal with sinners says what about Jesus and how he felt about them?

Hello again, Steve:

If Christians can discriminate, so can my church. Clearly, you don't deny that that's the law.

But, if my church discriminated in the workplace, and yours did too, and then tals did, and WG's did, and NK's atheists weighed in, and then EVERYBODY did, would YOU like to live in a place like that?

excon

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and WG's did

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Gosh darn! If I discriminated, I wouldn't have any counseling clients! After all, there is no one as perfect as I am.

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First of all, the sin you are talking about is not a sin. The OT passage in Lev. has been mistranslated and misunderstood for centuries. The same goes for what St. Paul wrote. There are Bible historians who believe Paul himself was gay.

So Jesus talking with and even eating a meal with sinners says what about Jesus and how he felt about them?

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Okie dokie, you run with that.

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Okie dokie, you run with that.

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I have -- and it makes total sense.

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Hello again, Steve:

If Christians can discriminate, so can my church. Clearly, you don't deny that that's the law.

But, if my church discriminated in the workplace, and yours did too, and then tals did, and WG's did, and NK's atheists weighed in, and then EVERYBODY did, would YOU like to live in a place like that?

excon

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Train discriminated and was cheered. Like I said, you want Christians to keep their beliefs to themselves, at home, or at church while forcing us to violate them. Sorry bud, I tried to be reasonable and rational but we won't be silenced.

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we won't be silenced.

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I'm a lifelong Christian -- a conservative Lutheran preacher's kid -- and vehemently disagree with you. Who's the "we"?

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Who's the "we"?

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Obviously those Christians they want silenced who refuse to be silenced.

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Obviously those Christians they want silenced who refuse to be silenced.

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So there are different kinds of Christianity? Which one is the correct version?

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So there are different kinds of Christianity? Which one is the correct version?

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You tell me, I make no such claim. Obviously you and I disagree on dogma so I guess that makes at least two different kinds.

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You tell me, I make no such claim.

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Yes, you do. Your "we" is trying to change the public marketplace, women's rights and place in society, education and what is being taught, who can marry, and also turn the U.S. into a theocracy.

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Yes, you do. Your "we" is trying to change the public marketplace, women's rights and place in society, education and what is being taught, who can marry, and also turn the U.S. into a theocracy.

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horsesh*t. Argue honestly, a REAL Christian would.

Well hell, how the freak do you tell a REAL Christian from a fake one?

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Hello again, Steve:

If Christians can discriminate, so can my church. Clearly, you don't deny that that's the law.

But, if my church discriminated in the workplace, and yours did too, and then tals did, and WG's did, and NK's atheists weighed in, and then EVERYBODY did, would YOU like to live in a place like that?

excon

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I guess either you believe in freedom of association or you don't . By your own argument ,such discrimination comes at a cost and a competitive disadvantage to the business owner as opposed to those that provide services to all.

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horsesh*t. Argue honestly, a REAL Christian would.

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How am I dishonest?