Ask Me Help Desk - The war on men

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Originally Posted by Wondergirl

And the school officials were male? I see the principal was female, but what was this boy's point in bringing a gun to school. Domination? Subduing?

Don't think a kindergartener thinks that way.
The kindergartener had brought the toy gun because his friend had brought a water gun the previous day. He later told his mother than he “really, really” wanted his friend to see it.

Obviously a cap gun is an explosive device . Obviously the kid needs to be sent to Gitmo for some water boarding... on second thought... maybe the school officials who grilled him until he peed in his pants should be subject to some waterboarding until they pees in their pants.

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Originally Posted by tomder55

don't think a kindergartener thinks that way.

Did you see my post just before yours? "One Sunday, my minister's-wife Mom took my little brother's winter jacket off after we had sat down in church and was horrified to discover he had strapped on his gun belt with two holsters that held his six guns. We still chuckle about that."

We decided not to waterboard him. I don't think he even got spanked.

Sounds like something I would've done.

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Originally Posted by Wondergirl

Did you see my post just before yours? "One Sunday, my minister's-wife Mom took my little brother's winter jacket off after we had sat down in church and was horrified to discover he had strapped on his gun belt with two holsters that held his six guns. We still chuckle about that."

We decided not to waterboard him. I don't think he even got spanked.

Kids play and just maybe he feels insecure in that female dominated society

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Originally Posted by paraclete

Kids play and just maybe he feels insecure in that female dominated society

This was back in 1952 -- very male dominated society..

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Originally Posted by Wondergirl

This was back in 1952 -- very male dominated society..

Comment still applies perhaps even more so. Male domination is an illusion perpetrated by females. It suited females to be seem in the subserviant role, the power behind the throne has always been their act

Maybe he should've been carrying a pop tart in the shape of a gun. That would've gotten him only a 7 days suspension.

Maybe there needs to be some reality in the system, you would castigate and punish a child for a cap gun but allow millions of weapons to be freely possessed, where was that child's right to bear arms?

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Originally Posted by tomder55

Maybe he should've been carrying a pop tart in the shape of a gun. That would've gotten him only a 7 days suspension.

My brother (and you too!) could take bites out of a piece of deli meat and make it look like a gun. He could even hold his right hand with fingers and thumb pulled into his palm and his index finger pointing out to "shoot" us. Take his guns away and he has other avenues.

It's Time to Stop Treating Dads Like Idiots says, Huffpo.

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Originally Posted by speechlesstx

It's Time to Stop Treating Dads Like Idiots says, Huffpo.

I agree

More evidence that the war is growing

PM targets 'men in blue ties'

It has become fashionable to wage a war on men for political reasons particularly when the electorate is going to wipe you out

Maybe in crazy oz-land.

No just that crazy red headed bltch we have masquarading as a leader

The war has backfired on the big red box, I smell blood in the water

Male support for PM crashes

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Originally Posted by tomder55

If men are feeling insecure over this then perhaps they need to man up . But yeah this is Western culture's wussification of men . It starts in school where boys are no longer allowed to play contact sports and otherwise be boys. When they play sports or anything else competitive there are no winners or losers . It also happens at home where there are so many single parent familes that boys are often denied positive male role models .

The men of yesterday stayed with their families. They had defined roles, boys and dads,daughters and mothers. That's why things were different. Today guys get women pregnant then walk away and act like they have no clue they have a child out there. Women had to evolve into mother and father "super-beings" and while most succeed in raising excellent kids some fall short. We live in a nation of single mothers. Women get pregnant and today still have only one choice, most won't make that choice, so we become mothers, unintentional, in some cases but mothers nonetheless. We don't get to walk away from being pregnant, especially when we can't even tie our shoes. If men could in some way experience the biology of pregnancy I think most would never abandon the child, regardless of how they feel about the pregnancy or the mother. The war on men started with men walking away from their responsibility to their sons and daughters and will end when men "put themselves" back into the equation.

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The war on men started with men walking away from their responsibility to their sons and daughters and will end when men "put themselves" back into the equation.

Yes indeed that is part of the solution. Blaming the men is convenient . But you fail to identify the underlying change that happened. Yes part of it is the permissive culture of the left . The other part of it is the unintended consequences of government social experimentation and attempts at poverty erradication. The reason that some men can walk away is that the government has made it financially beneficial to do so.

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Originally Posted by tomder55

Yes indeed that is part of the solution. Blaming the men is convenient . But you fail to identify the underlying change that happened. Yes part of it is the permissive culture of the left . The other part of it is the unintended consequences of government social experimentation and attempts at poverty erradication. The reason that some men can walk away is that the government has made it financially benefical to do so.

You speak as though women have no responsibility and yet the real responsibility for pregnancy lies with them. Outside of Rape they have total responsibility but they don't take it and the fault also lies in the safetynets that they have. Men walk away because they become unwelcome they are unable to provide or they aren't allowed to be part of the process, expected to finance the child without contact. The permissive culture doesn't just exist on the left, the right bears responsibility for their attitudes and enabling too, the right considers it chic to use women and cast them aside and then wages a war on men I see it in my own family, the girl allows herself to become pregnant and I hear the platitudes such as he will do the right thing by her while at the same time world war III rages between them and is this the first time, no, obviously the idea of cause and effect hasn't taken hold. Where I come from there is a whole mechanism for extracting child maintenance from the male and yet the only option they are left with to have any sort of life is to drop out otherwise the result is punative worse than taxation. One child they might afford but if there were more in the family... the burden is far more than they would conribute in a family relationship

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the right considers it chic to use women and cast them aside

I do not think that is correct.

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Originally Posted by tomder55

I do not think that is correct.

Not even vaguely in the realm of reality.