Hello again,

Freshman Tea Party senator Cruz (Texas) is one of the three senators who voted AGAINST confirming John Kerry as Secretary of State...

This guy is chicken hawk. Chicken hawks run away from serving in the military, but have strong criticisms for those people who don't run away. This particular chicken hawk, speaking of Chuck Hagel and John Kerry, said "Both are less than ardent fans of the US military".

Between them, they have 5 purple hearts... Cruz has his d!ck. As a person who didn't run away either, I'm offended.

excon

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Hello again,

Freshman Tea Party senator Cruz (Texas) is one of the three senators who voted AGAINST confirming John Kerry as Secretary of State...

This guy is chicken hawk. Chicken hawks run away from serving in the military, but have strong criticisms for those people who don't run away. This particular chicken hawk, speaking of Chuck Hagel and John Kerry, said "Both are less than ardent fans of the US military".

Between them, they have 5 purple hearts... Cruz has his d!ck. As a person who didn't run away either, I'm offended.

excon

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Im sure chuck hagel earned his medals during the time he served. Im not so sure about Kerry. Also including the fact that he returned his / or maybe he didn't? Im not impressed with Kerry's record on many subjects.

Did Kerry Discard Vietnam Medals? - ABC News

Why John Kerry Should Not Be Secretary of State

How did John Kerry get OUT of his tour in Vietnam after only 4 months when the tour was a year... who did he have to blow to pull that off?

He got a purple heart

I guess if you didn't serve you forfeit your right to oppose the nomination or have an opinion about it ;or express your opinion on issues of war and peace . Cruz earned that right by being elected to represent his State in the Senate.Only 9% of the population has ever served ;including the draft era generation. So 91% of us should just shut up and let a junta of the martial class run the country.

Hello again, tom:

I don't object to his opposition.. I object to what he SAID.

He's a nutless CHICKENHAWK. He NEVER served... He RAN AWAY. He's AFRAID! How the FU*K can he say that these guys DON'T love the military, but Ted Cruz DOES!!

Look. You can excuse this sleazy bastard all you want, but if it were me, I'D be ashamed to stand up for him...

excon

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He's a nutless CHICKENHAWK. He NEVER served... He RAN AWAY. He's AFRAID!

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For a minute there I thought you were talking about Carl Levin . He is on the Armed Services committee ;has said some disgusting things about our troops... and NEVER SERVED ! What right does he have to his opinion or tone ? Let's round up all the lawmakers who have never served and drum them out... including the President .

Undertakers deal with dead people... AND THEY HAVE NEVER BEEN DEAD!!!! Absolutely disgusting. Drum them out.

It is obvious no one knows how it works. The president isn't likely to be in the detail, he will perhaps broad brush an approach with his cabinet, someone is going to tell him if it has any chance of getting up and then it is over to the legal eagles who work for the house and the senate to suggest appropriate language and ultimately a bill is presented which will be debated and be modified. It really doesn't matter whose idea it is because there is going to be negotiation

Obamas immigration policy has been on line for two years,and in his Vegas speech he said the same thing he said before in ElPaso, Texas, in 2011, almost word for word. Rubios plan is so close to the president's its not funny, but all we here about is support for Rubios plan. Okay cool, but those who can actually read and keep up with facts know the repubs are late to the immigration party, and are only willing because latinos ran like hell from the repubs ideas and candidates during the last election. So Obama hasn't changed, but repubs certainly have. Now THEY want to talk and compromise.

Obama has done the enforcement part of this deal and if repubs don't actually allow the pathway part to develop, and work, all this will be for naught and you guys will pay yet again.

The President lies through his teeth about enforcement . Ask the people living on the border if they think border security is sufficient .

Hello again, tom:

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The President lies through his teeth about enforcement . Ask the people living on the border if they think border security is sufficient .

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Man, if you want to talk about LIARS, you can't leave out Arizona governor Jan Brewer.. She lied about headless corps's laying all around the desert...

Bwa, ha ha ha.

Excon

You mean ask the wingers? Obama has put more boots on the ground along the Southwestern border than any president, and deported more people than any in history while getting 71% of the latino vote.

It's the wingers that are lying.

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and deported more people than any in history

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All you need to do is to include people who returned to their country on their own into the stats ;and it's easy to make the figures look impressive.
The President admitted he cooked the books by including people that have been turned away at the border. The truth is that ICE is arresting far fewer people in the interior than ever before. 2010, ICE located fewer than half the number of deportable aliens in 2010 than they did in 2006 (517,000, down from 1.2 million).
So the President's inflated numbers come from people who have done what Romney called 'voluntary deportation' due to the bad economy ,and people who have been turned away at the border.

So if more are turned away and less being arrested why isn't that enough to implement a better process for the ones in the shadows now?

And if the president was man enough to admit his own accounting mistakes, how is that lying through his teeth? And why are the Mexicans the only immigrants you guys are worried about?

Hello again, tom:

What's instructive about this conversation, is the fact that people like you, smoothy and Steve will NEVER support a comprehensive immigration reform bill. You've got MILLIONS of reasons not. I understand. After all, who amongst us can switch up a long held position on a dime??

You're no different than Rubio, or Graham, or the flip flopper, McCain, and the Tea Party dude, Jeff Flake... They don't WANT this policy either... They're ONLY doing it to assuage Hispanic voters so they can win elections. They really don't believe what they're saying. Nonetheless, they're trying..

Are you going to HELP them, or not?

excon

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Hello again, tom:

I don't object to his opposition.. I object to what he SAID.

He's a nutless CHICKENHAWK. He NEVER served... He RAN AWAY. He's AFRAID! How the FU*K can he say that these guys DON'T love the military, but Ted Cruz DOES!!!

Look. You can excuse this sleazy bastard all you want, but if it were me, I'D be ashamed to stand up for him...

excon

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I guess I missed where Cruz was drafted and dodged service, could you point that out? Also, I like the exact quotes that offend you.

Meanwhile, I VOTED FOR TED CRUZ TO REPRESENT MY INTERESTS, not kiss a$$ and play nice. I think he's a welcome change from that mushy KBH and I would be disappointed if he didn't buck the establishment.

Steve

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Hello again, tom:

What's instructive about this conversation, is the fact that people like you, smoothy and Steve will NEVER support a comprehensive immigration reform bill. You've got MILLIONS of reasons why not. I understand. After all, who amongst us can switch up a long held position on a dime???

You're no different than Rubio, or Graham, or the flip flopper, McCain, and the Tea Party dude, Jeff Flake... They don't WANT this policy either... They're ONLY doing it to assuage Hispanic voters so they can win elections. They really don't believe what they're saying. Nonetheless, they're trying..

Are you gonna HELP them, or not?

excon

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I'm already on record as supporting reform so that's a lie. Excuse me though if I'm apprehensive about this president's 'comprehensive' anything.

Hello again, Steve:

You'll excuse me, if I didn't get the memo. So, help me out here.. Does all that gobbeldy gook mean that the 11 million people here illegally can STAY?

I asked tom the same thing.. He won't say.. He says if ALL his terms are met, whether they can stay or not is NEGOTIABLE.. Which, of course, means they CAN'T stay..

excon

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Hello again, Steve:

You'll excuse me, if I didn't get the memo. So, help me out here.. Does all that gobbeldy gook mean that the 11 million people here illegally can STAY??

I asked tom the same thing.. He won't say.. He says if ALL his terms are met, whether they can stay or not is NEGOTIABLE.. Which, of course, means they CAN'T stay..

excon

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I asked you for details first. But no, I don't believe every illegal deserves to stay, I'm sure there are some you wouldn't want in your neighborhood.