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Originally Posted by califdadof3

I am aware of that. And everything I have posted so far mentions the elevation of rights. That is the argument Im trying to address.

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I'm not gay, so I cannot address the emotional part of this.

What in marriage says no gay unions?

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Originally Posted by Wondergirl

I'm not gay, so I cannot address the emotional part of this.

What in marriage says no gay unions?

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Most religious orginizations will not perform a gay marriage. Are you wanting to force them to ?

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Originally Posted by califdadof3

Most religious orginizations will not perform a gay marriage. Are you wanting to force them to ?

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So marriage = religious?

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Originally Posted by Wondergirl

So marriage = religious?

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By way of the State yes it is recognized.. I explained that earlier.

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Then why did my gay friend get stopped at the door of the hospital ICU when his partner (they were married in another state) was ill?

"The clause's application to state-sanctioned same-sex marriages, civil unions, and domestic partnerships is unresolved, as is its relationship to the 1996 Defense of Marriage Act (DOMA) and the proposed Federal Marriage Amendment. Between 1996 and 2004, 39 states passed laws and constitutional amendments that define marriage as consisting solely of different-sex couples. Most explicitly prohibit the state from honoring same-sex marriages performed in other states and countries." (Wikipedia)

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DOMA was declared unconstitutional at the appellate level a number of times this year ,and the Obama Adm has already decided it would not defend the law in court.