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Originally Posted by speechlesstx

Well thank goodness we have Biden on the job, admitting that the working class has been "buried the last four years."

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I noticed on other sites how this is the conservative talking point of the day. Well done!
Biden is telling the truth of course. What's the reason for the outrage this time?

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Originally Posted by NeedKarma

I noticed on other sites how this is the conservative talking point of the day. Well done!
Biden is telling the truth of course. What's the reason for the outrage this time?

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Outrage? What outrage? We're proud of Biden for telling the truth, 4 years of Obama and the middle class IS buried. Tell it like it is Joe!

P.S. Very amusing how the guy who fell for and jumped on the discredited Romney airplane window story is mocking others for taking off with an actual Biden gaffe. Well done!

So you're saying the Obama administration enacted all the plans they wanted to enact?

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Originally Posted by speechlesstx

Well thank goodness we have Biden on the job, admitting that the working class has been "buried the last four years."

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Hello again, Steve:

Couple things...

First off, you BLAST the administration for covering up stuff. Now, you're blasting them for admitting stuff. What's with that? But, it's not SURPRISING stuff. It's not stuff we DIDN'T know.. It's not that he revealed a SECRET. He told us stuff we already KNOW. In fact, I have a feeling that your OWN candidates are saying the same thing...

Next. It appears that you can't remember past 4 years ago... I don't know WHY. But, that's why I'M here. Let me remind you again... George W. Bush BROKE the economy SO badly, that NOBODY, could have fixed it in 4 years - NOBODY. You guys think this is just one of those run of the mill downturns that ANY president worth his salt, could have gotten us out of in very short order...

But, it wasn't.. It was the WORST downturn since the Great Depression... It does NOT surprise me that the middle class are STILL buried. The only people who are surprised about it, are people who have NO understanding of how the economy works.

excon

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Originally Posted by NeedKarma

So you're saying the Obama administration enacted all the plans they wanted to enact?

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Thank goodness no, the middle class would be even worse off - but he had 2 years to pass anything he wanted.

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Originally Posted by excon

Hello again, Steve:

Couple things...

First off, you BLAST the administration for covering up stuff. Now, you're blasting them for admitting stuff. What's with that?? But, it's not SURPRISING stuff. It's not stuff we DIDN'T know.. It's not that he revealed a SECRET. He told us stuff we already KNOW. In fact, I have a feeling that your OWN candidates are saying the same thing...

Next. It appears that you can't remember past 4 years ago... I dunno WHY. But, that's why I'M here. Lemme remind you again... George W. Bush BROKE the economy SO badly, that NOBODY, could have fixed it in 4 years - NOBODY. You guys think this is just one of those run of the mill downturns that ANY president worth his salt, could have gotten us out of in very short order...

But, it wasn't.. It was the WORST downturn since the Great Depression... It does NOT surprise me that the middle class are STILL buried. The only people who are surprised about it, are people who have NO understanding of how the economy works.

excon

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I blast the administration for coverups, lies and blatant deception, should I praise them instead?

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Originally Posted by speechlesstx

Thank goodness no, the middle class would be even worse off - but he had 2 years to pass anything he wanted.

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Two years was enough to fix all that? See excon's post.

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Originally Posted by excon

Hello tom:

I suppose the polls CAN be stacked... But, speaking as a businessman, it's suicide to DO that. I thought right wingers UNDERSTOOD business... No, huh?

Look. If I were in the polling business, the only thing I have to SELL is an ACCURATE poll. If my polls are flawed, nobody would buy them. Elliot would understand what I'm saying..

excon

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Yes indeed... that is why the final poll is the important one .Their credibility is in the final results.
But when there is an agenda behind the poll ,then that IS what the pollster is being paid to provide. That is why I mentioned the internal polling . The candidates need their own information ;not what these published polls provide. If they could believe the external polls then they would not need their own independent polling .

Man, Romney KILLED last night. Mittens made mincemeat of the messiah. I don't agree with Bill Maher much but he was right on this...

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Obama made a lot of great points tonight. Unfortunately, most of them were for Romney -- Bill Maher

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Obama got schooled and it showed.

Mitt was aggressive, but he didn't get specific about anything, and I can't wait for the sound bites to be aired. Obama let him lie as much as he wanted to!

Hello again,

I think he was stoned... Will it change the outcome?? I don't know.. Hispanics still hate Romney. Women too.

excon

PS> Screw the election.. I'm going skiing.

Awesome video !
Bill Mahrer said Obama forgot TOTUS . Michael Moore said that's what you get when you have John Kerry as your debate coach.

The President should come to these boards to learn his talking points .Where was 'Caymans ' or "47%" or "Bane" ? Very strange performance. Does he think it's beneath him to have to be in a debate ? Has surrounding himself for 4 years with an echo chamber affected him ? Ex is right... maybe he was doing some 'choom' before the debate .He even flubbed his early mention of his anniversary. He even flubbed the 2 minute prepared final statement . It was shocking ! How arrogant is it that he thinks he doesn't need to bring his A game to a presidential debate ?

Yeah we libs are crying in our soup at the end of ROUND1. Your guy brought his red meat, we didn't. So we don't bury Romney today, but we will.

Here's a thought... (Obama) "I love Big Bird .... I won't defund him " .

There was method in President Obama's madness. It gave Romney the opportunity to wear a smarmy smile and lie through his teeth. President Obama couldn't even look him in the face or would have broken out in hysterical laughter. Their next debate will bear watching.

You mean the President was doing a 'rope-a-dope' as he was getting pummeled against the ropes for 90 minutes ? Great call ! He should sue Axelrod for malpractice !

Remember Tom one swallow does not a summer make

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Originally Posted by tomder55

You mean the President was doing a 'rope-a-dope' as he was getting pummeled against the ropes for 90 minutes ? Great call ! He should sue Axelrod for malpractice !

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Another great Maher tweet...

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Originally Posted by talaniman

Mitt was aggressive, but he didn't get specific about anything, and I can't wait for the sound bites to be aired. Obama let him lie as much as he wanted to!

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Methinks you're in denial.

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Originally Posted by paraclete

remember Tom one swallow does not a summer make

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Hello again, clete:

But, if he doesn't improve his debating skills, Romney is going to eat his lunch next time too.

Look.. I'm NOT a good debater. You'd think I WOULD be because I kick right wing butt here every day... Plus, of course, I'm right.. But, I need TIME for formulate my thoughts. If I had to respond VERBALLY to these guys, I'd say stuff that wouldn't win a debate. Sometimes, even TIME doesn't muffle me.

Once you look at the UNDERLYING policy, right wingers want to take the country BACK to 1895. Do you think the debate was a game changer?

excon