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Originally Posted by excon

Hello Dude:

One experience doesn't indicate a statewide policy... It's a nice story. I'm glad they let you go... But, that doesn't mean they let EVERYBODY go.

excon

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We know they let everyone go. Heck just ask Willie Nelson. Lol

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Originally Posted by excon

Hello Dude:

One experience doesn't indicate a statewide policy... It's a nice story. I'm glad they let you go... But, that doesn't mean they let EVERYBODY go.

excon

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Cops, DA's and courts have much more important things to deal with than tweaking some kid for a joint. That's the reality.

Come on dude you know cops love to catch someone in possession, you take that away from them and they will have to catch real crims

Give the tokers a break, let 'em smoke and tax it! I mean it can't be worse than jack daniels!

Not an issue about if it should be legal or not ;taxing it would have no affect on usage ,and would likely lead to even more illegal activity i.e.. Tax evasion and other crimes associated with tax avoidance i.e. hijackings ,smuggling ,illegal growing (Wickard v. Filburn) . On the Federal and local level the costs of tax enforcement would outweigh the revenue.I don't think that taxing would be the windfall you think .

An example is the illicit illegal activities in the tobacco trade .There is a vibrant black market for the product world wide and certainly in the United States, where it has been legal to use since the colonial days .In the United States ,the black market cigarette industry is more than a $billion business run by criminal cartels as ruthless as the drug cartels (often one in the same) .

Hey let's go chase tax evaders and smugglers instead of real criminals. Does this strike you as a little jingoistic. Law and order to collect revenue not deal with criminality

You need to understand what real criminlas are, they are those with the guns, those who commit violet crime no matter how motivated, those who kill, not those who are addicted

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$billion business run by criminal cartels as ruthless as the drug cartels (often one in the same) .

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Hello tom:

Let me see. If it's ILLEGAL, it causes dangerous cartels... And, if it's LEGAL it causes dangerous cartels...

Seems to me something is basically WRONG with your thinking.

excon

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Not an issue about if it should be legal or not ;taxing it would have no affect on usage ,and would likely lead to even more illegal activity ie. tax evasion and other crimes associated with tax avoidance ie hijackings ,smuggling ,illegal growing (Wickard v. Filburn) . On the Federal and local level the costs of tax enforcement would outweigh the revenue.I don't think that taxing would be the windfall you think .

An example is the illicit illegal activities in the tabacco trade .There is a vibrant black market for the product world wide and certainly in the United States, where it has been legal to use since the colonial days .In the United States ,the black market cigarette industry is more than a $billion business run by criminal cartels as ruthless as the drug cartels (often one in the same) .

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Tom I hate to tell you this but they already do tax illegal drugs. That is how they are able to seize everything that person has when they are caught. States like Tennessee and others actually have a voluntary process whereby you could pay the taxes but who is going to do that??

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Hello tom:

Lemme see. If it's ILLEGAL, it causes dangerous cartels... And, if it's LEGAL it causes dangerous cartels...

Seems to me something is basically WRONG with your thinking.

excon

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Show me where I'm wrong .

https://reportingproject.net/undergr...&id=5&Itemid=1

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Tom I hate to tell you this but they already do tax illegal drugs.

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Why am I not surprised ?

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Law and order to collect revenue not deal with criminality

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Does it really surprise you that governments create classes of criminals solely with their taxcodes ?

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show me where I'm wrong .

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Hello tom:

I'm a market kind of guy... If what you say is true, it's a function of POLICY, and policy can be changed.. There is NOTHING inherent in drugs or cigarettes that causes cartels. Prohibition causes cartels.. Unreasonable taxes cause cartels.

excon

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Unreasonable taxes cause cartels.

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Umm that was my point ;addressing the 'legalize and tax it ' position.

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umm that was my point ;addressing the 'legalize and tax it ' position.

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Hello again, tom:

If the tax is reasonable, there's no reason think it would go underground. Any more than safety pins are underground... Isn't that what you guys call a straw man?

excon

POT SMOKERS RAISE UP!! and be heard. Our time has come. Hell! Everbody I know smoks reefer, I smoke it at night to ease the pain that hevy radiation left in my thought.
OOPS! I just confessed to a crime.
Excuse me I have 2 men with badges at my front door. Am I going to hafta change my handle to Excon#2? More later! Five to ten later. Cheers. Tom

Well speedy do you do speed too?

Hello again,

I still want to know if I should BUY a big greenhouse NOW in anticipation of full on legalization? Nov 6 is right around the corner.

excon

Anytime is good to buy a green house Ex you could get in on the hydroponic market

Holder will not impose Federal laws until after the election. If I was a supporter of these state 10th Amendment laws ,I'd be wary of a 2nd Obama term .

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If I was a supporter of these state 10th Amendment laws ,I'd be wary of a 2nd Obama term .

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Hello again, tom:

Yet, Romney said absolutely he'd IGNORE my states 10th Amendment rights, and he'll make SURE that pot is NEVER legal here.

I'll take my chances on Obama.

excon