Ask Me Help Desk - From "yes we can" to "no you didn't"

Yep, it originated in the private sector and the private sector built it using taxpayer dollars, of which I contribute my fair share. The Defense Dept stole the guy that thought it up from the private sector and the company he left got the bid to build it. Do you even read your own articles?

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Yes it was and Im well aware of that. After its invention it was turned over to universities to connect around the world to share information closer to real time. Business was banned from the internet. It wasnt until much later that the stirrings of business began to infiltrate the net. At first it was just to serve the people not to sell you something. It was basic information and drivers you could download. Then the next step that began the inroads was voip. That is when business started to step in and pour money into the infrastructure of the internet. From there video conferencing was born. After that the rest is history. Im well aware because I lived it from the baby shoes it once was having access at several major universities To helping some of todays major players get on board. You can thank Ma Bell for many of the major sucess stories as they held much of it together in the early days until they were split up.

Almost correct. Commerce and advertising happened way before VOIP or video conferencing. That makes sense since voip and video require precious bandwidth and 24k banner ads did not. I lived it, sold HTML specs, browsed it during the university hook up days etc...
Business almost ruined the internet for a while. Until they found a ways to monetize it.

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Almost correct. Commerce and advertising happened way before VOIP or video conferencing. That makes sense since voip and video require precious bandwidth and 24k banner ads did not. I lived it, sold HTML specs, browsed it during the university hook up days etc...
Business almost ruined the internet for a while. Until they found a ways to monetize it.

Business is still ruining the internet today. Huge companies like Google are marching all over personal rights of privacy and trying to make inroads into homes on a daily basis.

VOIP started a very long time ago. It matched computer voice to actual switching stations so you could make calls through the internet and only required 8k of bandwidth. The modern improved version of voip takes up a bit more room and normally uses a special modem to digitize the signal in a stand alone format. Before it was always computer dependent.

Netscape (yes I said it) to me was one of the best browser formats ever made. With their add on of netmeeting began the video link for corporate users. Early models of video over the net included cuseeme made by cornell university.

The old days were so much fun. Lol

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Originally Posted by califdadof3

Netscape (yes I said it) to me was one of the best browser formats ever made. With thier add on of netmeeting began the video link for corporate users. Early models of video over the net included cuseeme made by cornell university.

The old days were so much fun. lol

Agreed. I remember Netscape with much fondness as well. After Cornell voip development seemed to have been taken over by the israelis for some reason.

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Agreed. I remember Netscape with much fondness as well. After Cornell voip development seemed to have been taken over by the israelis for some reason.

Its because they bought ichat. The chat program with the flower. Remember this is before Yahoo and MSN. They took it over because they realized that the information super highway was a give away to secrets. What better way to monitor then to own the company that provides the service??

Today the internet as we know it is nothing it started to be and is constantly evolving process. Just wait and see what it looks like in 20 years.

Back to the original statement I had made. I think if you remember right one of the polices in place when the internet was originated was the corporate entities were banned from it because it was thought they would spoil the well. The well of knowlage.

P.S. and disclaimer:

I am not nor have I ever been Al Gore :)

Back to the OP. So, how many of you can't get by without Obama's help?

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Back to the OP. So, how many of you can't get by without Obama's help?

OK, Back to the OP.. wait you are the OP. :)

We can all agree that we need to have community support to maintain the infrastructure and society as a whole. None of us has pockets that deep as to support everything.

Looking at the question from my viewpoint. This president isn't doing me any favors by how he is trying to run / ruin this country. I am thankful to my fellow citizens and my community for what is around me. But as far as holding the line on what I have and making improvements in my life that has nothing to do with the president. It has to do with personal goals and opportunities that I may find available. Everyone is responsible for decisions that they make through life and the changing of presidents is just one of the decisions that are faced along the way.

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They just didn't get enough government assistance.

Tom you are ranting again, there are good investments and bad investments but industry isn't going to invest in technology unless the return is assured, so sometimes government gives them a push, sometimes that is military and sometimes it is not. It is easy to pick losers Tom and very hard to pick winners. Let me ask how is the Joint strike Fighter program going, why aren't you ranting against that?

Hello again,

Yes, let's talk about the OP. Wouldn't it be nice if we talked about what the candidates ACTUAL position IS on these issues, instead of a GOTCHA couple of words taken out of context??

BOTH sides do it. The problem for YOU and ME, is WE buy into it, post the BS, and challenge each other to justify it. Well, I got better things to do.

excon

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Tom you are ranting again, there are good investments and bad investments but industry isn't going to invest in technology unless the return is assured, so sometimes government gives them a push, sometimes that is military and sometimes it is not. It is easy to pick losers Tom and very hard to pick winners. let me ask how is the Joint strike Fighter program going, why arn't you ranting against that?

I'm pretty sure I've posted comment on that . Being a huge fan of the F-22 Raptor ;I have taken the position that the F-35 Lightning is a huge waste of money .

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Hello again,

Yes, let's talk about the OP. Wouldn't it be nice if we talked about what the candidates ACTUAL position IS on these issues, instead of a GOTCHA couple of words taken out of context???

BOTH sides do it. The problem for YOU and ME, is WE buy into it, post the BS, and challenge each other to justify it. Well, I got better things to do.

excon

As opposed to taking Pennsylvania state House Republican Mike Turzai's comments out of context .

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Or parking your yacht in Rhode Island instead of paying taxes to the state you represent.

Why is it do you think people put their money elsewhere? Hmmm??

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As opposed to taking Pennsylvania state House Republican Mike Turzai's comments out of context .

Hello again, tom:

All I heard him say, is what I reported. If it was out of context, you could have shown me. Better yet, show me now. I'm a reasonable fellow. It's just that I'm NOT interested in discussing WORDS. Policy is MUCH more interesting...

But, if that guy said SOMETHING else in that statement, I'll retract and apologize.

excon

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Hello again, tom:

All I heard him say, is what I reported. If it was out of context, you could have shown me. Better yet, show me now. I'm a reasonable fellow. It's just that I'm NOT interested in discussing WORDS. Policy is MUCH more interesting...

But, if that guy said SOMETHING else in that statement, I'll retract and apologize.

excon

Read your article. All of it.

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Why is it do you think people put their money elsewhere? Hmmm?????

To avoid paying taxes?

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Read your article. All of it.

Hello again, Steve:

I did. I read it VERY CAREFULLY.. I saw NOTHING about a LONGER statement Tirzai made that said something OTHER than what I reported... Oh, I saw where his SPOKESMAN said he meant something else. But, I did NOT see a statement where his words were taken out of context...

If it does, PLEASE show me.

excon

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To avoid paying taxes?

To avoid being punished for success.

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Hello again, Steve:

I did. I read it VERY CAREFULLY.. I saw NOTHING about a LONGER statement Tirzai made that said something OTHER than what I reported... Oh, I saw where his SPOKESMAN said he meant something else. But, I did NOT see a statement where his words were taken out of context...

If it does, PLEASE show me.

excon

I didn't say it was taken out of context, I believe I've said something to the effect of you're reading things into it that just aren't there and that's what the spokesman explained. Not allowing dead people and dogs to vote makes it fair.

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Originally Posted by speechlesstx

I didn't say it was taken out of context, I believe I've said something to the effect of you're reading things into it that just aren't there and that's what the spokesman explained.

Hello again, Steve:

Yeah, the spokesman TRIED to tell me what I heard.. But, I HEARD what I HEARD... And, I reported to you EXACTLY what I heard.. I even showed a tape of him saying it. His meaning is CLEAR. It was NOT taken out of context.

Now, you may believe that you didn't hear what you heard. But, I can TELL what I heard, from what I DIDN'T.

excon