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  • Jun 15, 2012, 06:45 AM
    smoothy
    The UN is a mostly useless bunch of self important blowhards that beat their chests and think they are far more important than they actually are, that consume far more American Dollars than they should be given..
  • Jun 15, 2012, 07:19 AM
    speechlesstx
    Oh come on Smoothy, they are really good at deploring things.
  • Jun 15, 2012, 07:35 AM
    smoothy
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    Oh come on Smoothy, they are really good at deploring things.

    They aren't even good at that... because they deplore the wrong things... and ignore the things that SHOULD be deplored more often than they do the right thing.
  • Jun 15, 2012, 07:40 AM
    speechlesstx
    OK, so they're really good at using it in a sentence.
  • Jun 15, 2012, 07:44 AM
    smoothy
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    OK, so they're really good at using it in a sentence.

    I can agree with that...
  • Jun 15, 2012, 09:17 AM
    tomder55
    4 again .
    I agree with Excon . The President is no friend of stoners. I think ALL stoner Obama supporters who think that the President betrayed them should vote for Libertarian nominee Gary Johnson.
  • Jun 15, 2012, 09:23 AM
    smoothy
    Oh... and #3 is being debunked by dumboears himself... so he can hand green-cards out in a desperate attempt to buy votes..

    White House to halt deportation of young illegal immigrants | The Ticket - Yahoo! News
  • Jun 15, 2012, 09:40 AM
    speechlesstx
    I have a question, is #10 really #9 now?
  • Jun 15, 2012, 09:49 AM
    smoothy
    We have two number threes... I just noticed that...
  • Jun 15, 2012, 09:54 AM
    speechlesstx
    I wonder if ex has been to the same 57 states as Obama.
  • Jun 15, 2012, 10:02 AM
    excon
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    I wonder if ex has been to the same 57 states as Obama.

    Hello Steve:

    That cracked me up. You KNOW I'm going to rebound from #4.

    excon
  • Jun 15, 2012, 10:13 AM
    speechlesstx
    So that's where you've been.
  • Jun 15, 2012, 10:16 AM
    smoothy
    SHHHHHHHH! Those other 7 states are supposed to be sercet. Canada is one and Mexico is another.
  • Jun 15, 2012, 11:12 AM
    speechlesstx
    Here's your hopenchange - in addition to the ever-expanding cost of Obamacare, doctors have weighed in and it isn't pretty:

    Quote:

    • 90% say the medical system is on the WRONG TRACK

    • 83% say they are thinking about QUITTING

    • 61% say the system challenges their ETHICS

    • 85% say the patient-physician relationship is in a TAILSPIN

    • 65% say GOVERNMENT INVOLVEMENT is most to blame for current problems

    • 72% say individual insurance mandate will NOT result in improved access care

    • 49% say they will STOP accepting Medicaid patients

    • 74% say they will STOP ACCEPTING Medicare patients, or leave Medicare completely

    • 52% say they would rather treat some Medicaid/Medicare patient for FREE

    • 57% give the AMA a FAILING GRADE representing them

    • 1 out of 3 doctors is HESITANT to voice their opinion

    • 2 out of 3 say they are JUST SQUEAKING BY OR IN THE RED financially

    • 95% say private practice is losing out to CORPORATE MEDICINE

    • 80% say DOCTORS/MEDICAL PROFESSIONALS are most likely to help solve things

    • 70% say REDUCING GOVERNMENT would be single best fix.

    But at least we aren't Greece... yet.
  • Jun 15, 2012, 11:20 AM
    excon
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    Here's your hopenchange - in addition to the ever-expanding cost of Obamacare, doctors have weighed in and it isn't pretty

    Hello again, Steve:

    Then the doctors are going to LOVE the VIB & the BVA. That's short for the Vagina Inspection Bureau & Birth Verification Authority.

    Nobody will escape..

    excon
  • Jun 15, 2012, 11:37 AM
    smoothy
    Is that What Bill Clinton calls it now? And here all along we thought he was just fooling around.
  • Jun 15, 2012, 11:53 AM
    speechlesstx
    83% of doctors say they are thinking about QUITTING and you want to go back to the phony war on women meme? If the docs quit we won't have to worry about any of that stuff anyway, we will be Greece.
  • Jun 15, 2012, 12:27 PM
    smoothy
    The European Health care system SUCKS compared to the American one... and how utterly clueless most people are about the reality of it.

    In Europe... if you go to a Specialist YOU pay, if you go to a dentist YOU pay... need medications YOU pay... women need to go to a gynecologits... YOU pay... need a hip replacement or elective surgery... get on a waiting list that can be months or years long. I've spent enough time living in Europe to see how bad their system is compared to our own.

    I have an apartment there now and I used to live and work there... I still have a valid European tax id...
  • Jun 15, 2012, 01:07 PM
    speechlesstx
    And if go the doc in Greece you have to slip them an envelope... if you have anything to slip.

    Quote:

    Even before the crisis, public hospitals were under strain and the notorious cash-filled "fakelaki" or "little envelope" which patients have had to hand over to get good treatment have become a byword for the corruption in the system.
    I can't wait until I have to bribe my doctor to get some health care.
  • Jun 15, 2012, 08:47 PM
    TUT317
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by smoothy View Post
    The European Health care system SUCKS compared to the American one....and how utterly clueless most people are about the reality of it.

    In Europe.....if you go to a Specialist YOU pay, if you go to a dentist YOU pay...need medications YOU pay...women need to go to a gynecologits....YOU pay......need a hip replacement or elective surgery....get on a waiting list that can be months or years long. I've spent enough time living in Europe to see how bad their system is compared to our own.

    I have an apartment there now and I used to live and work there.....I still have a valid European tax id...


    Hi Smoothy,


    This wouldn't be some sort of massive generalization?


    France is in Europe.

    Health Care Lessons From France : NPR

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