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  • May 31, 2012, 07:23 AM
    excon
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    I wonder if that rises to the level of Dan Rather faking news with forgeries to influence the election.

    Hello again, tom:

    I wonder if they'll get fired and disgraced like Dan Rather?

    excon
  • May 31, 2012, 07:43 AM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by excon View Post
    Hello again:

    Here's the new thing from FOX. A news organization producing an attack ad. I wonder, do you think it's fair and balanced???

    Bwa, ha ha ha ha.

    excon

    No sir, FNC should not be publishing political ads, and as your link notes an update was posted by a Fox VP that the spot "was not authorized at the senior executive level of the network.” Evn though Fox and Friends is not a news show per se, the ad was not a good call.

    Honest enough for you?
  • May 31, 2012, 08:10 AM
    tomder55
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by excon View Post
    Hello again, tom:

    I wonder if they'll get fired and disgraced like Dan Rather?

    excon

    Possible... I've never watched Fox and Fiends . What do they do ? Another group discussion show ?
  • May 31, 2012, 03:12 PM
    TUT317
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    No sir, FNC should not be publishing political ads, and as your link notes an update was posted by a Fox VP that the spot "was not authorized at the senior executive level of the network.” Evn though Fox and Friends is not a news show per se, the ad was not a good call.

    Honest enough for you?


    So we can take this to mean "the spot" was not authorized but the ad and its content was authorized at the executive level?

    TUt
  • Jun 1, 2012, 06:22 AM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by TUT317 View Post
    So we can take this to mean "the spot" was not authorized but the ad and its content was authorized at the executive level?

    TUt

    I don't think so. The point here is "the package" (their words) was pulled, and conservatives such myself have said it wasn't a good idea.

    Ed Morrisey at Hot Air said, "Should a news organization produce and publish attack ads like this? I know the initial response will be that other news organizations offer biased perspectives and hagiographies of Obama that go well beyond a single video … and that response is entirely valid. However, we usually criticize that kind of behavior with other news organizations, too. If anyone wanted to look for evidence that the overall Fox News organization intends to campaign against Obama rather than cover the campaign, this video would be difficult to refute as evidence for that claim.

    Of course, that doesn’t mean that outside groups and the Romney campaign shouldn’t consider producing something like this on their own. It makes a pretty powerful argument against another four years of Barack Obama, but that shouldn’t be the job of news-reporting organizations, even when we like the message...

    One last point: Several people in the comments argue that F&F is an opinion show, and that this is therefore fair game. That would certainly be true if they wanted to play ads run by other organizations as part of their commentary. My point is that this ad was produced by Fox News itself, and it’s clearly intended to campaign against Obama. That’s the problem with this video, and I think it was ill-advised by Fox to have produced and published it. If CBS News produced a four-minute video extolling all of Obama’s accomplishments, or a four-minute video with this dramatic music and animation ripping Romney for his years in Massachusetts and at Bain Capital, we’d be screaming our heads off, and rightly so.


    I won't hold my breath for liberals to be as fair and honest about the media carrying Obama's water during this campaign as we've been about this.
  • Jun 1, 2012, 06:50 AM
    TUT317
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    I don't think so. The point here is "the package" (their words) was pulled, and conservatives such myself have said it wasn't a good idea.

    Do you mean the package wasn't a good idea or that pulling it wasn't a good idea?

    The Morrisey take on the issue seems quite reasonable to me.

    Tut

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