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  • Sep 15, 2011, 11:44 AM
    NeedKarma
    Of course Bush had Fox News on his side.

    Anyway if you haven't done anything wrong they you have nothing to worry about, it won't affect you.
  • Sep 15, 2011, 01:01 PM
    spitvenom
    Bush didn't need a website like this because no one was spreading rumors. All the nasty Ish he was doing was true. Like the post from smoothy about all the late night talk show guys making jokes about Obama non of them were real. No one said any of them. The tea baggers just send these BS emails around that have no truth what so ever.

    But I do find it funny that the tea baggers freaked out over death panels then at the debate they became the death panels let people without insurance die is what they want. I'm sure Jesus would do the same thing.
  • Sep 15, 2011, 01:32 PM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    Of course Bush had Fox News on his side.

    The 3 legacy networks alone have 6.62 times more viewers of their evening news than Fox' biggest draw. And again, that's not counting CNN, MSNBC, HNN and the print media. Obama has a much, much larger news network in his corner than Bush ever did.

    Quote:

    Anyway if you haven't done anything wrong they you have nothing to worry about, it won't affect you.
    I said creepy, nothing abut being worried. This silly effort of his only invites more criticism and I'm certain he's going to get what he deserves in return.
  • Sep 15, 2011, 01:35 PM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by spitvenom View Post
    Bush didn't need a website like this because no one was spreading rumors. All the nasty Ish he was doing was true. Like the post from smoothy about all the late night talk show guys making jokes about Obama non of them were real. No one said any of them. The tea baggers just send these BS emails around that have no truth what so ever.

    Hate to tell you but your next sentence is exactly what you just criticized.

    "But I do find it funny that the tea baggers freaked out over death panels then at the debate they became the death panels let people without insurance die is what they want. "

    No one on this side of the aisle is pushing granny over the cliff.
  • Sep 15, 2011, 01:46 PM
    tomder55
    Quote:

    because no one was spreading rumors.
    Lol...
    The 9/11 Truth Movement - 911truth.org


    Electronic Voting The stolen election of 2004

    How Jeb Bush Stole the 2000 Election for His Brother

    Untitled Document

    Bush Postpones 2008 Election | The Nation

    ... nope none at all .
  • Sep 15, 2011, 01:54 PM
    NeedKarma
    There you go tom, set up a website and debunk them!
  • Sep 15, 2011, 02:41 PM
    speechlesstx
    That was a big one... more than once

    Bush administration takes steps to cancel US election

    Will Bush Cancel the Election?

    Will Bush Cancel The 2008 Election?

    Could Bush Cancel the Election?

    Congressman John Olver Believes Bush Will Cancel 2008 Elections, Still Refuses to Support Impeaching Him or Cheney


    Bush Cartel Talks of Steps to Potentially Cancel ("Postpone") the Presidential Election: This is For Real Folks!


    Evidence That Bush Will Cancel Elections & Declare Martial Law

    My favorite has always been Theocracywatch, but I bet they've turned their attention to those Dominionists running now.
  • Sep 15, 2011, 02:45 PM
    NeedKarma
    Where's the disinformation there?

    From one of your articles:

    Quote:

    The article reported that the Bush-appointed chair of the Election Assistance Commission, DeForest B. Soaries, sent letters in late April to National Security Adviser Condoleeza Rice and Homeland Security Secretary Tom Ridge to raise the possibility of a terror attack occurring at election time. (The Sept. 11, 2001 attack fell on Election Day in New York City.)

    Newsweek magazine reported Soaries wanted Ridge to request that Congress pass legislation authorizing Ridge's agency to re-schedule elections.

    Rep. Christopher Cox, R-Calif., chair of the House Homeland Security Committee, told CNN that developing such plans was a necessary contingency effort in response to "doomsday scenarios,"
  • Sep 15, 2011, 03:09 PM
    speechlesstx
    I believe the word tom and I addressed was "rumors". The article you cite calls it a rumor in the first sentence.

    "Canceling or postponing the Nov. 2 presidential election may sound like ultimate paranoia, but the rumor floating around..."

    Rumors, see? Thank you for trying.
  • Sep 15, 2011, 03:12 PM
    NeedKarma
    Yea rumors exist, I don't deny that. That's not what the website is about, it's about correcting the planned misinformation sent out by the republicans.

    You really had to reach deep to find examples, articles that contain the word regardless of their content. Hehe.
  • Sep 15, 2011, 03:54 PM
    Cat1864
    NK, it is set up for more than the 'planned' misinformation.

    I read their form for reporting 'attacks'. They have a drop down menu that includes 'rumors' as one of the ways to hear about misinformation/attacks. They list emails, radio ads, TV ads, websites/blogs, and other forms of media separately. So, obviously, AttackWatch believes they should be reported along with all other forms whether they are in 'articles' or not.

    If they aren't in articles, then where else do you hear 'rumors'?
  • Sep 15, 2011, 05:34 PM
    NeedKarma
    I agree, rumors is pretty vague and should probably be omitted from that. In that article we were speaking of the rumor was confirmed by the Republican member so it was all dealt with in the same article.
  • Sep 15, 2011, 07:21 PM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    Yea rumors exist, I don't deny that. That's not what the website is about, it's about correcting the planned misinformation sent out by the republicans.

    You really had to reach deep to find examples, articles that contain the word regardless of their content. Hehe.

    Dude, just admit when you're wrong instead of constantly moving the goal posts to C Y A.
  • Sep 15, 2011, 09:54 PM
    TUT317
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post

    Yeah report me !!! I encourage eveyone to report my posts to AttackWatch . What better way to bring exposure to AMHD !!!!


    Hi Tom,

    There is a big difference between you and others who create left and right wing websites just to post ridiculous drivel and then meld into the background and watch the nonsense spread. They do this under the guise of free speech. All freedom and no responsibility?

    In other words, you have demonstrated that your are a person who is prepared to take responsibility for his political comments. Very important in my view.

    Attack Watch seems to be a belated attempt to make people take responsibility for their comments rather than an attempt to keep 'files' on 'dissidents'

    Probably not the right way to go about it, but it is at least an attempt.

    Tut
  • Sep 16, 2011, 03:46 AM
    speechlesstx
    Tut, point taken but with Obama it is not about making others take responsibility. He has shown time and again he doesn't tolerate dissent, he can't take the heat. If you haven't noticed, in his world there is one way, his. I'll be glad to tell him he's wrong and take responsibility for it.
  • Sep 16, 2011, 04:16 AM
    TUT317
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    Tut, point taken but with Obama it is not about making others take responsibility. He has shown time and again he doesn't tolerate dissent, he can't take the heat. If you haven't noticed, in his world there is one way, his. I'll be glad to tell him he's wrong and take responsibility for it.


    Hi Speechless,

    I don't Know that much about your politico/legal system and how Obama fits in. On that basis I am happy to go along with your observations.

    The only point I would make is that despite my lack of knowledge of American politics I would be very confident in the ability of 'systems' to deal with ambitions politicians. In the end Obama may well not tolerate dissent, but I would be confident that in the final analysis there is nothing he can do about it.

    Not sure who said this but," you have nothing to fear but fear itself".

    Tut
  • Sep 16, 2011, 04:22 AM
    NeedKarma
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    He has shown time and again he doesn't tolerate dissent

    Show me what he has done differently than any other president and I;'ll agree with you. Please use facts not emotions.
  • Sep 16, 2011, 06:10 AM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by TUT317 View Post
    In the end Obama may well not tolerate dissent, but I would be confident that in the final analysis there is nothing he can do about it.

    Not sure who said this but," you have nothing to fear but fear itself".

    Tut

    No, the people will not surrender their right to criticize our government, I can assure you of that. And that was Franklin D. Roosevelt who said that.
  • Sep 16, 2011, 06:12 AM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    Show me what he has done differently than any other president and I;'ll agree with you. Please use facts not emotions.

    That was in the OP, first line. See, if you'd just read the first sentences you wouldn't be wrong so much.
  • Sep 16, 2011, 06:23 AM
    NeedKarma
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    That was in the OP, first line.

    How does that show that other presidents have tolerated dissent? I don't understand.

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