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So essentially you link to to pirate sites and that makes it acceptable to steal intellectual property?

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Originally Posted by tomder55

He is an Aussie using Swedish based computers to steal from US government owned data bases for the purpose of undermining the United States .

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Hello again, tom:

Do you think the people of Tunisia feel undermined?? I don't think they do... I think they feel LIBERATED... The guy who feels undermined is the corrupt leader who got overthrown BECAUSE of Assange. Revealing corruption ISN'T undermining anything except the corruption... That's good... I don't know why you don't think it is.

excon

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Originally Posted by tomder55

so essentially you link to to pirate sites and that makes it acceptable to steal intellectual property?

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They are no links to pirate sites at all, if you don't understand the technology don't post what you think is damning evidence about it.

So you are OK if a hacker can use this to get into your computer to download your stuff ? Or perhaps you think that the victims of piracy deserve what they get . I heard a hacker boast this week that there was no security system that couldn't get hacked . I guess in your mind that makes it OK for them to do it.

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Originally Posted by tomder55

I guess in your mind that makes it ok for them to do it.

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Nope, I'm just correcting you on the technology. I protect myself from hackers and so should everyone else. I believe in personal responsibility.

Once again it wasn't hacking, it's akin to you putting a box of all your stuff in your front yard and wondering why people are taking a copy of your stuff.

Ex ,it's just silly to think that the people of Tunisia did not know of the corruption of the Ben Ali regime.They lived under his iron fisted rule for 2 decades .The revolt was sparked by the suicide of a university graduate prevented by police from selling fruit and vegetables to make a living.

I give all credit to the people ,not to Wikileaks .

However ,what you will likely see there is the rise of another jihadist state. What is missing is the logic of the Bush Doctrine and the belief that the choice between despots and jihadists is a false choice... that freedom and liberty is a 3rd choice . I pray they make the 3rd choice.

So we're living under a regime that's lying to us? I thought all that was gone with Bush and the installation of the most ethical, honest, transparent administration evah!

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Ex ,it's just silly to think that the people of Tunisia did not know of the corruption of the Ben Ali regime.

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Hello again, tom:

Speculating that your leader is corrupt, and having it CONFIRMED are two different things. His overthrow is a GOOD thing. If you want to attribute it to something else, OK.

excon

Confirmation in the form of a US diplomat's analysis in 2010 ? Why not Foreign Policy's expose on the 1st Lady's shopping prowess in 2008 ? Why not Human Rights Watch analysis of the 2009 Tunisia election that was held according to them in "an atmosphere of repression".
The fact that the leaked cable made mention to protests already underway is comletely besides the point.
I think the self immolation of Mohamed Bouazizi on Dec 17 had much more to do with the government's collapse than the release of a US diplomatic cable.

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it's akin to you putting a box of all your stuff in your front yard and wondering why people are taking a copy of your stuff.

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Or someone picking your lock and walking away with your file cabinet.

Hello again, tom:

Who's to say what's in the mind of a revolutionary? Maybe they read Thomas Jefferson's thing about the tree of liberty. Or, maybe the leak was the straw... I don't know. Somebody burning themselves up would have done it for me.

excon

There have been copy cat suicides in Algiers and Egypt this month..

And yes there have been times where diplomatic cable releases have been the impetus for upheaval . The intercept of the Zimmerman telegram comes to mind.

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Originally Posted by tomder55

or someone picking your lock and walking away with your file cabinet.

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Nope not at all. I've spent a few posts trying to explain to you but to no avail I see.

Soldier A sends soldier B a download of Lady Gaga . Wiki through pirateware hitches a ride on the transmission and gains access to a hard drive it has no right to be in... lifts classified information... releases it around the world .

And you think they have every right to do so ? You're a strange one .Suppose instead of doing that they got into your computer and published your acct #s and passwords or lifted intellectual property that is rightfully yours ?

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soldier A sends soldier B a download of Lady Gaga .

And you think they have every right to do so ? You're a strange one .

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Hello again, tom:

I don't know. A reporter meets a government snitch under a bridge... The snitch is only identified as Deep Throat. Deep Throat leaks government secrets to the reporter, and the reporter writes a best selling book about it.

Did he (they) have the right to do that?

excon

The government snitch called Deep Throat(FBI agent Mark Felt who had a personal vendetta against Nixon .He thought he was due to become director of the FBI after Hoover's death and thought Nixon snubbed him.)... told Woodward and Bernstein to follow the money.. He steered them in the right direction .He never disclosed any classified information .

What we have here is espionage pure and simple. Assange' claim to journalism is very weak.

In the case I cite 'Soldier A 'never knows his private email is being used to penetrate government files. In the case of PFC Manning... he is as guilty as Assange .

BTW... Felt was convicted of a felony for ordering the breaking into members of the Weather Underground' homes in a attempt to prevent the bombing spree they were on. Reagan pardoned him.

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soldier A sends soldier B a download of Lady Gaga . Wiki through pirateware hitches a ride on the transmission and gains access to a hard drive it has no right to be in.....lifts classified information ...releases it around the world

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You have absolutely no idea how the p2p technology works, you're digging yourself a deeper hole, please stop, it's embarrassing.

Yes or no... can it be legally used to go into government computers and download filed that are US property ?

If so explain how it can be legally used for that purpose .