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Hello again, dad:

Look. I dunno if they really had the legal power to arrest him. That may, or may not ever be determined... Nonetheless, I think it's a little brown shirty. That's all.

excon

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Is there any video posted of this because I can imagine it going either way. I have seen it from both sides and without knowing more about it according to that second link I provided in the last post it is legal. Now that doesn't mean it was correct in any way. And if all we have is writing. Then that is all we have to judge from. It doesn't look good anyway you view it.

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Originally Posted by califdadof3

Is there any video posted of this

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Hello again, dad:

Not exactly, but close. Look HERE!

excon

Seeing the video it looks like the reporters wanted to become the news. If they did have rights to the building by renting it they also have the right to refuse persons entering the building. They appeared to be away from the event. So it was clear they could have been gguilty of tresspass if asked to leave and refuse. Im sure it could have been done more tacfully but that's how yahoo's operate.

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If Joe Miller rented the facilities, it's private, whatever he wants to call it

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Sweet Joe announced it as a public town hall meeting in a public building.

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you can be the first woman to weigh in on NOW's hypocrisy in their disrespect for Meg Whitman.

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I LOVE to read up on things, but please don't use "weigh" in the same sentence as "woman." Will check into the Whitman thing.

That video is taken after the fact.

Here's the Alaska law. Once the reporter /blogger was asked to leave and didn't he became a trespasser under Alaska law.

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AS 11.46.350. Definition.

(a) As used in AS 11.46.300 - 11.46.350, unless the context requires otherwise, “enter or remain unlawfully” means to

(1) enter or remain in or upon premises or in a propelled vehicle when the premises or propelled vehicle, at the time of the entry or remaining, is not open to the public and when the defendant is not otherwise privileged to do so;

(2) fail to leave premises or a propelled vehicle that is open to the public after being lawfully directed to do so personally by the person in charge; or

(3) enter or remain upon premises or in a propelled vehicle in violation of a provision in an order issued or filed under AS 18.66.100 - 18.66.180 or issued under former AS 25.35.010 (b) or 25.35.020...
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Alaska Statutes: AS 11.46.350. Definition.

A citizen's arrest was in order.

THANK YOU! - Unfortunately, as we can see from their answers, those against you not really into reading, aren't very articulate in most cases, we just have to keep trying. It is truly amazing how so many will defend those taking away the very rights they claim to want to protect. Amazing.

The cop backing up illegal action is still illegal.A public forum is PUBLIC. A public figure has to answer to the public paying him/her to work for them. What is the matter with people? Yet again the result of educational funds deteriorating.

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those against you not really into reading, aren't very articulate in most cases...
What is the matter with people? Yet again the result of educational funds deteriorating.

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Nice ad hominems Betty . Is that what you consider intelligent discussion/debate ?

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Nice ad hominems Betty . Is that what you consider intelligent discussion/debate ?

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I think the attacks should be directed back to the original Alaskan Statutes you cited. Can the hall be hired as a public place while at the same time advertising it as a public forum?

The fallacy may well be taking the source at its face value. Tom, are you trying to convince us of the validity source( Alaskan Statutes) by saying we should taking it at face value.

Regards

Tut

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Sweet Joe announced it as a public town hall meeting in a public building.

I LOVE to read up on things, but please don't use "weigh" in the same sentence as "woman." Will check into the Whitman thing.

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So "weigh" is now some form of hate speech against women or something? I thought women wanted to be treated equally.

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So "weigh" is now some form of hate speech against women or something? I thought women wanted to be treated equally.

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Dear FSM, you have no sense of humour whatsoever!

TUT . I can cite a number of other sources that detail Alaska law. I assure you that Alaska statutes 11.46.320-350 deal with TRESSPASSING .

The law makes it very clear that once the 'blogger' was asked to leave and didn't ,he was a tresspasser.

Also this incident occurred after the Town Hall event finished and the candidate was attempting to leave . The meeting ceased to be "public " when Miller left the podium. It was then that Hopfinger harassed Miller ;and got physical against Miller's guards. Miller rented the building; regardless of “public meeting' or not . He had a right to evict Hopfinger ,and when he refused ,to detain him until the police arrived.

I also note that when SEIU thugs were beating on conservative attendees of town hall meetings (as per the President's instructions to "get in your neighbor's face") all you could hear at this forum was crickets chirping .

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I also note that when SEIU thugs were beating on conservative attendees of town hall meetings (as per the President's instructions to "get in your neighbor's face") all you could hear at this forum was crickets chirping .

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Hello again, tom:

I don't know about you righty's and the English language... Getting in your neighbors face is WAYYYY different than handcuffing him - at least where I live...

excon

How about a beating (as I mentioned )?
Dailymotion - Obama's SEIU Thugs Attack a Black Conservative - a News & Politics video

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The meeting ceased to be "public " when Miller left the podium.

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can you quote us the law that affirms this?

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I also note that when SEIU thugs were beating on conservative attendees of town hall meetings (as per the President's instructions to "get in your neighbor's face") all you could hear at this forum was crickets chirping .

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The SEIU aren't the subject of this post. The subject is "Joe Miller arrests reporter."'Nuff said.

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How about a beating (as I mentioned )?

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Totally irrelevant. Please stay on topic.

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How about a beating (as I mentioned )?

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Hello again, tom:

YOUR video is as inclusive as the other one is, yet you made conclusions about it. Why can't I do the same thing?

excon

NK once Joe Miller concluded the meeting ,and had exited the auditorium into the hallway, ipso facto the public meeting had concluded .

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NK once Joe Miller concluded the meeting ,and had exited the auditorium into the hallway, ipso facto the public meeting had concluded .

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So he exited into a public area and suddenly it's no longer public? LOL!

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NK once Joe Miller concluded the meeting ,and had exited the auditorium into the hallway, ipso facto the public meeting had concluded .

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Hello again, tom:

Spin it any way you choose... But this is a PUBLIC candidate running for a PUBLIC office, and the distinction whether the venue was "public" or "private" and WHEN that occurred BLURS what happened here. The reporter followed the PUBLIC candidate running for a PUBLIC office, after his PUBLIC town hall meeting, in a PUBLIC school, to ask him a question. The PUBLIC candidate had his goons arrest him.

It's BROWN SHIRTY! It's UGLY. This man should NEVER hold power. He's a DANGER.

excon