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  • Sep 6, 2010, 10:37 PM
    paraclete
    The little red fox has survived to lead the next government with a clear statement from the king, or is it queen maker, that this is not a mandate but maintaining supply to an existing government. What will we get well certainly no fillabusters, and a lot less BS from the government, harder working politicians, but sadly we 'll get a mining tax, we will get an ETS, we will get more boats and we will get more of the same incompetent government!

    In the words of our indigenous inhabitants "poor fella, my country"
  • Sep 7, 2010, 03:18 AM
    tomder55

    What is the quid pro quo that swung the independent support her way ?

    My guess is that it is a promise that won't be kept.
  • Sep 7, 2010, 04:08 AM
    paraclete
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    what is the quid pro quo that swung the independent support her way ?

    My guess is that it is a promise that won't be kept.

    Big promises for country areas and they made it plain in their speeches, if they get screwed so does Julia. The only way legislation gets up is if these guys support it, the deal includes supply but everything else is by negotiation, but it still has to get through the Senate and there the equation and the partners are different. Left leaning rights in the house and radical left in the Senate.

    The concessions they already have are spectacular including no time for BS in question time, no fillibusters, longer sessions, and pairing so that they can be absent and the balance isn't disturbed, and indepth review process before the bill gets to the vote, attention to members private bills, time to discuss regional issues and generally curtailing the merrygo round of blame and shame. They have a package of expenditure in regional areas so it will be apparent very quickly if the fox reniges

    What I don't get here is the coalition had more seats and 700,000 more votes and these bast@rds had the hide to endorse the sitting government, these turncoats will pay dearly next time around
  • Sep 7, 2010, 05:13 AM
    tomder55

    Quote:

    What I don't get here is the coalition had more seats and 700,000 more votes and these bast@rds had the hide to endorse the sitting government, these turncoats will pay dearly next time around
    We call them RINOs here. The Dems call them Red Dogs . They are all cut from the same cloth.
    They won't pay if they bring home bacon. The sheeple have short memories.
  • Sep 7, 2010, 03:43 PM
    paraclete
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    The sheeple have short memories.

    Perhaps they do and perhaps they don't. The Bobkat obviously wasn't prepared to chance it

    Rob Oakeshott
  • Sep 7, 2010, 04:21 PM
    paraclete
    Cracks in the accord
    It didn't take long, Wayne Swann has removed the contraversial mining tax from the tax review

    Mr Pyne said the Coalition would allow the parliament to work but would shine a light on government mismanagement.

    "The Government needs to be held to account ... this will not be a parliament where all of history is turned on its head and we all sit around smoking the peace pipe and singing Kumbaya," he said.



    Read more: Cracks appear in Labor deal says Opposition frontbencher Christopher Pyne | News.com.au
  • Sep 7, 2010, 04:23 PM
    tomder55

    Quote:

    Mr McLeish believes Mr Oakeshott's decision flies in the face of most of his constituents - conservatives won over by the MP's energetic independence.
    Screwing constituents . I see it is not something that happens exlusively here.

    One can only hope for a quick disolution of the Red regime.
  • Sep 7, 2010, 04:27 PM
    tomder55
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by paraclete View Post
    It didn't take long, Wayne Swann has removed the conroversial mining tax from the tax review

    Mr Pyne said the Coalition would allow the parliament to work but would shine a light on government mismanagement.

    "The Government needs to be held to account ... this will not be a parliament where all of history is turned on its head and we all sit around smoking the peace pipe and singing Kumbaya," he said.



    Read more: Cracks appear in Labor deal says Opposition frontbencher Christopher Pyne | News.com.au

    Lol the ultra-partisans are already restless ?
    How is Red julia at arm twisting? She doesn't have a huge majority so she will have to keep the indies in line or the whole house of cards comes down. (one can only hope.)
  • Sep 7, 2010, 08:17 PM
    paraclete
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    lol the ultra-partisans are already restless ?
    How is Red julia at arm twisting? She doesn't have a huge majority so she will have to keep the indies in line or the whole house of cards comes down. (one can only hope.)

    She has already told us she will do it her way, nation building and all that, and she has already been reminded she has no mandate, so lots of rhetoric until parliament sits again and then we will see how friendly they can be. She will be bridled by an unfriendly Senate until July 1 anyway, but the mining tax is part of supply so she will get that up, at least into the Senate, and the NBN is already proceeding, so the only thing stalemated is the ETS. I think it will be interesting whether the coalition opposes the payoff to the independents, as it also will affect their constituents, and the Greens continue to oppose this form of the ETS as they did in the past. It doesn't take much for Labor to build a shaky house of cards, they don't have a good record for good government. We well remember 1975 and the shambles that was ,and later the recession we had to have, the Banana Republic under scumbag Paul Keating and now we have had the pink bats fiasco, the school halls fiasco, the GST tax grab, followed by the great big tax on everything, This is the only government who's policies have actually killed people, so par for the course

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  • Sep 30, 2010, 05:08 AM
    tomder55

    I see she already lost her first policy vote ;and she broke her promise about carbon tax.
    Looks like it's the Greens that actually won the election.
  • Sep 30, 2010, 03:14 PM
    paraclete
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    I see she already lost her first policy vote ;and she broke her promise about carbon tax. .

    That vote was symbolic, a small change to legislation, but important in showing that the independents could be wooed to support good legislation and are willing to stick it to the government. The little red fox has been placed in a position where she personally must attend every vote or risk losing it, That should keep her from globe trotting the way her predecessors had. Things have become heated very quickly
    http://www.smh.com.au/national/pyne-...930-15yv3.html

    The position on carbon tax is unclear, but she will have to do something to keep the Greens support. The Greens have already suggested they are open to working with the Coalition to pass legislation.

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    Looks like it's the Greens that actually won the election.
    Yes, it is a great concern that the Communist, Markist idealists who have been hiding under the Green banner have arrived in a position of power. Rihannon and Brandt are known communists while recent alligations are that those who joined the communists in 1950 would join the greens today because they are communist at the core, true watermelons. Joe McCarthy where are you?
  • Oct 2, 2010, 03:10 AM
    tomder55

    The Brits have come up with a clever way to reduce carbon emissions 10%
    (warning... graphic)YouTube - How to Cut Carbon Emissions!

    That an add campaign like this could move through the production process without anyone in the organization stopping to think it might offend should tell you everything you need to know about the Green Movement.

    Here in the US we've had about enough of these fraudsters.
    YouTube - Al Gore Confronted in Tampa about Global Warming Again!!
  • Oct 2, 2010, 03:36 AM
    paraclete
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    The Brits have come up with a clever way to reduce carbon emissions 10%
    (warning ....graphic)YouTube - How to Cut Carbon Emissions!

    That an add campaign like this could move through the production process without anyone in the organization stopping to think it might offend should tell you everything you need to know about the Green Movement.

    Here in the US we've had about enough of these fraudsters.
    YouTube - Al Gore Confronted in Tampa about Global Warming Again!!

    Tom global warming is the least of our worries the first concern of our Greens is not what you might expect, it is euthanasia, or more correctly the enforced euthanasia of the elderly
  • Oct 2, 2010, 04:02 AM
    tomder55

    Of course... Thomas Malthus lives in both remedies.

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