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but totally in line with the view that dissent is good under Bush, bad under Obama.

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Hello again, Steve:

You have a short memory. I deplore Obama's continuation of the Bush detention policies, his illegal spying policies, his war in Afghanistan, his killing by drone, his targeting of Americans, and his weak health care law. I didn't hesitate to post about it either.

I guess you were on vacation when all that was going on.

excon

"In support of Matt Stone and Trey Parker and in opposition to religious thuggery," I give you the First Annual Everybody Draw Mohammad Day.

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I love it!

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"In support of Matt Stone and Trey Parker and in opposition to religious thuggery," I love it!

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Hello Steve:

I don't love it. To ME, the ones to go after are the thugs themselves, which is a particular group in NY, rather than the religion. That's just me.

excon

Ex, as a Christian I have insults thrown in my face every day in most every way imaginable. Perhaps it's time Islam learns how to "get over it."

It is exactly the response that is needed ;simular to the author's public support by reading 'Satanic Verses' out loud , after Rushdie was threatened .

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Ex, as a Christian I have insults thrown in my face every day in most every way imaginable. Perhaps it's time Islam learns how to "get over it."

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How do people know that you're a christian? Do you have a tattoo on your face?

Speaking of responses to Muslim extremists, remember that Ayatollah that warned of immodest women creating earthquakes? An Indiana woman who came up with a response may have inadvertently proved him right.

Boobquake Triggers 6.5 Magnitude Quake Off Taiwan

I'm with JWF, we may need to study the evidence further. :D

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It is exactly the response that is needed

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Hello again, tom:

I don't know. You have a choice of going after the actual PEOPLE who did this, or going after their RELIGION. You choose their religion. Kind of gives credence to their claim that the US is warring against Islam.

excon

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Hello again, tom:

I dunno. You have a choice of going after the actual PEOPLE who did this, or going after their RELIGION. You choose their religion. Kinda gives credence to their claim that the US is warring against Islam.

excon

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I'm on the fence about this one. It would be nice if muslims would come out and denounce these people but it rarely happens.

Hello NK:

One Muslim is.

excon

Kurt Westergaard ;the author of the Danish cartoons was attacked with an ax in his home by jihadists. His employer's response ? They put him on indefinite leave for security reasons . That's showing support!

No Ex . It is a statement that the West will not be intimidated by jihadists. If a Muslim is offended by that they should react the same way Catholics and other Christians react when mocked by the popular culture.Grin and bear it. They should understand that our standing in solidarity with the writers of South Park (as much as I think they are morons) is not a reaction against Islam but against jihadistan . What will they do in response ? Issue another Fatwa ? We all already live under a number of them just for not surrendering willingly to dhimmitude.

I still don't get this baloney. South Park lambastes everyone from Jesus to the Virgin Mary, the Jews, Christianity, gays, Buddists, the Pope, Scientology, Tom Cruise, Hilary Clinton, even the Special Olympics, etc. and no one gets bent out of shape and changes any episodes. But heaven forbid that someone mentions the "M" word and all hell breaks loose and everyone goes into apology mode and cowtows to these people. Is it because they are terrorists and everyone is afraid that they'll be bombed or shot or whatever? If everyone took South Park seriously then that show would be cancelled. There are some episodes I don't particularly care for but others are a real laugh. Why must we tip toe around anything Muslim? Or are they super humans or super elites?

I believe south park had it right where they thought mohammad has some sort of 'goo' that means people can't make fun of him.

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I'm on the fence about this one. It would be nice if muslims would come out and denounce these people but it rarely happens.

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Denounce which people?

As a muslim,personally, I wouldn't watch something that insults Jesus or Muhammad (peace be upon them). And no I would not be apologetic for the ones who raise their voice against making fun of any of the Prophets.

I have heard that a singer was banned from performing in Sri Lanka, because one of his videos depict him in an insulting way in front of the Buddha. Do they have to apologise for it,of course not, if they find it insulting they can take an action against it.

I do not support violence,but there are different levels of disliking something as far as my beliefs go.
There is the choice of actually getting something done to stop the wrong that is being done either by protest or some other peaceful/legal mean, then there is the choice of raising our voices against it, the least is hating it within our hearts. I am one of those people that usually opts for the least, but there will always be those who are willing to raise their voices against anything that they deem to be wrong.
As long as they do not resort to violence I do not see the wrong in it.

Those who insult others will continue to do it,whether we raise our voices or not, for those who take back their insults, thank you, for whatever reason it is that you took it back, I as a muslim am thankful that there will one less to insult us.


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Denounce which people?

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Hi firm,

Denounce the ones who intend to kill people for displaying an image or cartoon of a person.

NK.

Hi Nk,

The correct actions for a muslim to take in such cases is not bloodshed or destroy property and referring such matters for scholars to deal with is better than taking the law into their own hands.

Killing is not the answer or threatening to kill is not the answer.

The thing about Fatwas is that the salaf, the Sahaabah and Taabi’een (the companions of the Prophet (pbuh) and the best generation of muslims) used to regard it as makrooh(disliked act) to rush to issue fatwas.

And I for one as a muslim will not watch a program which insults Prophets,Messengers.
Each to their own, I believe everyone will receive their due when the time comes,whether one is a believer or not,so I leave those that throw insults to the Most Just.


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Firm

The problem is that it is the radical jihadists that have seized the message. That is why the rest of Islam should stand in solidarity against them in unambiguous terms .

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Firm

The problem is that it is the radical jihadists that have seized the message. That is why the rest of Islam should stand in solidarity against them in unambiguous terms .

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I... I... agree! :eek:

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I...I...agree! :eek:

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See we can work together sometimes!!

2nd Casablanca quote of the day

I think this is the beginning of a beautiful friendship