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Originally Posted by speechlesstx

Lets' see, 70 percent of black voters voted for Prop 8. What does that make them?

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Hello again, Steve:

Uhhhh, black homophobes... What's your point?

excon

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Originally Posted by excon

Hello again, Steve:

I'm just trying to help you compete. Dude, you were too easy the last time.

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And I'm saying if everyone is alike there is no competition.

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Originally Posted by speechlesstx

And I'm saying if everyone is alike there is no competition.

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Hello again, Steve:

K. Then let's talk about taxes and big government. Let's talk about civil rights. Let's talk about the "Bush Doctrine". Let's talk about medicare and/or socialized medicine. Let's talk about Iran and Israel. Let's talk about stuff like that.

But, the religious stuff is a non starter. Seems to me the Constitution kills you. But, you guys go ahead...

excon

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Let's talk about stuff like that.

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We have and we do.

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But, the religious stuff is a non starter. Seems to me the Constitution kills you. But, you guys go ahead...

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I wasn't discussing religious stuff and we've had the "Constitution kills ya" discussion. You think it does and I think it doesn't. But, there's a common misconception about the role evangelicals want for religion, actually it's left-wing fear mongering about it (but they don't engage in fear mongering), which says we want that theocracy, we want to impose our values on everyone else and that's BS plain and simple. If anything, it is the other side that wants to impose their values on us and that's exactly what started this fight in the first place, an all out assault on our values.

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Originally Posted by speechlesstx

If anything, it is the other side that wants to impose their values on us and that's exactly what started this fight in the first place, an all out assault on our values.

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Hello again, Steve:

If doing what the Constitution says is an imposition of your values, then you better get better values. Cause I think the values espoused in the Constitution are better than yours.

Besides, I really don't think you embody Christian values either. Now, I'm not a Christian, but from what I understand about Christianity, it's far more charitable than YOUR interpretation would have it be.

But, we'll talk about that some more, I'm sure.

excon

You've gotten a little snippy here lately, ex. I never claimed to embody Christian values but thanks for telling me I don't... and that I need better values and a more charitable Christianity. Again, I love it when outsiders interpret our needs and beliefs for us. I don't think there's anything wrong with my values or my 'interpretation' of the constitution. I'm not the one adding things to it - or Christianity - that aren't there.

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Originally Posted by excon

Hello again, Steve:

Uhhhh, black homophobes.... What's your point?

excon

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So those who voted against gay marrige are automatically homophobes?

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Originally Posted by inthebox

So those who voted against gay marrige are automatically homophobes?

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Hello in:

Pretty much. What would you call 'em?

excon

Those who believe that marriage is between a man and a woman. What is so homophobic about that.

By your reasoning those who want same sex mariiage are heterophobes ;)

Hello again, in:

What's racist about having separate but equal schools? Everything!

excon

How did you go from marriage to racism?

If that where the case, then why did 70 % of black voters, probably 90% of whom voted for Obama, vote against gay marriage?