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Originally Posted by excon

Hello again, Steve:

No they're not.

However, if you believe that the only thing that happened in this town, is that the witch was prayed for, you've drunk too much of the koolaid for me to bring you back. There was hope for you once.. But, you've gone over to the dark side.

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And here I thought we were friends. You're wanting me to speculate, which I can certainly do, but I just don't see any evidence of the horrors that have been attributed to this man. Someone has taken an article from 1999 and added a lot of nonsense that's so far nowhere to be found except in the minds and blogs of those who have convinced themselves that Palin is on the dark side. Is that what you want to base this on?

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For being a Christian type fellow, I don't think you understand how Christians actually practice their Christianity. Ever hear of Salem?

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Yeah, the town or the cigarette? Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't the last Salem witch trial in May 1693, some 315 years ago? Worrying about the return of witch trials is about as sane as Whoopie wondering if she's going to have to worry about a return to slavery under MCain. As far as how Christians practice their Christianity, I've been observing it firsthand for over 40 years. We don't go on witch hunts - but we do pray.

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Originally Posted by excon

Hello in:

Couple things. So, Biden is living his Christianity, and you want to call it his theocracy??? That's silly.

Next. Higher taxes on who? You??? I highly doubt it. Under Obama, YOUR taxes will be lowered if you make under $250,000 a year. Of course, you could be a wealthy rightwinger. I dunno.

excon

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There are a multitude of sole owner business out there, and is is fair to assume that many of them gross more then $250,000 per annum. They are taxed as private income. They are an important part of our economic engine. When you tax them heavily, they can't hire that extra employee or enlarge their buildings or invest in new machinery. Less jobs, less GNP.

AND Hussein has a laundry list of new programs he wants to launch, and with a Dem controlled congress, he can get it done. I submit that if you took EVERYTHING from those that earn above $250,000 annually, it would not be enough to do the job. He knows this, I'm sure. Do you?

Now who's been sippin the grape sugar drink?

Excon-

Palin does come off sounding like Tammie Fay Bakker at times. Her views are in line with those of the Republican Bible Belt ilk. Often they are genuine nice people, but their notions I find a bit archaic and shallow.


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Once you start banking some substantive profits, and hire employees, you should consider incorporating to protect yourself, personal from business responsibility and aspects. However if you get real big don't allow the CEO's to expect extravagant bonuses. Much of the time their solution is downsizing by scaling back on blue collar employees that are already having to survive on peanuts.

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Originally Posted by BABRAM

excon-

Palin does come off sounding like Tammie Fay Bakker at times. Her views are in line with those of the Republican Bible Belt ilk. Often they are genuine nice people, but their notions I find a bit archaic and shallow.

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LOL, of all the people you might have chosen, Tammy Faye is one of the last people one could imagine for Palin to resemble in ANY way. Let's correct that "image."

http://blog.beliefnet.com/idolchatte...picforblog.jpg

http://gov.state.ak.us/photos/Gov-Palin-2006_web.jpg

It's good to know we're genuine and nice at least, but I've never had a soul who knows me suggest I'm "archaic and shallow."

Catholic League: For Religious and Civil Rights

Hello tom:T

Below is quoted from the article you wanted us to read.

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"Witchcraft is a sad reality in many parts of Africa, resulting in scores of deaths in Kenya over the past two decades. Bishop Muthee's blessing, then, was simply a reflection of his cultural understanding of evil. While others are not obliged to accept his interpretation, all can be expected to respect it. More than that—Muthee should be hailed for asking God to shield Palin from harmful forces, however they may be manifested. And for this he is mocked and Palin ridiculed?

“We know that many cultural elites have a hard time embracing religion, but is it too much to ask that they at least show some manners when discussing subjects which most Americans hold dear?”

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I didn't know that most Americans believed in witchcraft. I really didn't. But, you learn all sorts of things on this here web doodad.

Well, since YOU believe there ARE witches out there, his machinations WERE entirely appropriate. However, to most of us, it was reallllly scary. I know you don't understand that. Ok, stick around and listen.

excon

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Originally Posted by excon

Hello tom:T

Below is quoted from the article you wanted us to read.

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"Witchcraft is a sad reality in many parts of Africa, resulting in scores of deaths in Kenya over the past two decades. Bishop Muthee’s blessing, then, was simply a reflection of his cultural understanding of evil. While others are not obliged to accept his interpretation, all can be expected to respect it. More than that—Muthee should be hailed for asking God to shield Palin from harmful forces, however they may be manifested. And for this he is mocked and Palin ridiculed?

“We know that many cultural elites have a hard time embracing religion, but is it too much to ask that they at least show some manners when discussing subjects which most Americans hold dear?”

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I didn't know that most Americans believed in witchcraft. I really didn't. But, you learn all sorts of things on this here web doodad.

Well, since YOU believe there ARE witches out there, his machinations WERE entirely appropriate. However, to most of us, it was reallllly scary. I know you don't understand that. Ok, stick around and listen.

excon

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I hate to be the one to tell you, but you have absolutely no knowledge of the spirit realm.

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Originally Posted by speechlesstx

LOL, of all the people you might have chosen, Tammy Faye is one of the last people one could imagine for Palin to resemble in ANY way. Let's correct that "image."

It's good to know we're genuine and nice at least, but I've never had a soul who knows me suggest I'm "archaic and shallow."

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Geezers Tex, you did this to yourself. I said, "sounding like," not looking alike. And you wonder why somebody could find you shallow? Hello!

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Originally Posted by Galveston1

I hate to be the one to tell you, but you have absolutely no knowledge of the spirit realm.

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Hello again, Gal:

I certainly don't. However, I would phrase it a bit differently. My knowledge tells me that the spirit realm is made up. It ISN'T that I LACK knowledge.

My post was based upon other peoples agreement with me, that witch hunting is ludicrous - even dangerous. I must admit that I'm a bit astonished at the response, although I shouldn't be.

Clearly, you wouldn't think a pastor who conducted witch hunts to be out of the mainstream, since apparently, you yourself believe in goblins and such.

excon

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Originally Posted by excon

Hello again, Gal:

I certainly don't. However, I would phrase it a bit differently. My knowledge tells me that the spirit realm is made up. It ISN'T that I LACK knowledge.

My post was based upon other peoples agreement with me, that witch hunting is ludicrous - even dangerous. I must admit that I'm a bit astonished at the response, although I shouldn't be.

Clearly, you wouldn't think a pastor who conducted witch hunts to be out of the mainstream, since apparently, you yourself believe in goblins and such.

excon

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Maybe before you diss the whole idea you should spend a week in some country where Voodoo is practiced (yes there are those places). It only works where people believe in it, but it does work there. And the results are terrible. Talk to some missionaries who have been there, you will be surprised.

It was all a hoax anyhow. If he really did expel witches, she'd have turned into a pig with lipstick.

Her church does "reform" homosexuals. God save us from your followers...

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Originally Posted by Galveston1

Maybe before you diss the whole idea you should spend a week in some country where Voodoo is practiced (yes there are those places). It only works where people believe in it, but it does work there. And the results are terrible. Talk to some missionaries who have been there, you will be surprised.

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Hello Gal:

The only thing that surprises me, is that people believe this bunk.

excon

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Originally Posted by mp2dtw

It was all a hoax anyhow. If he really did expel witches, she'd have turned into a pig with lipstick.

Her church does "reform" homosexuals. God save us from your followers...

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Geez, don't you people have anything better to do than distort the truth? First of all the word is "transform" not "reform" and secondly her church is not in the business of doing either. They may be promoting a Love Won Out conference but the church in America typically doesn't "pray away gay" or "cure" homosexuals.

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Originally Posted by speechlesstx

Geez, don't you people have anything better to do than distort the truth? First of all the word is "transform" not "reform" and secondly her church is not in the business of doing either. They may be promoting a Love Won Out conference but the church in America typically doesn't "pray away gay" or "cure" homosexuals.

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I read it in Yahoo news, but I'm sure you only believe what you want to believe--not that you aren't nitpicking anyhow. They should try to cure or transform people who believe in fictitious superstitions as though they were real.

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Originally Posted by mp2dtw

I read it in Yahoo news, but I'm sure you only believe what you want to believe--not that you aren't nitpicking anyhow.

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I don't doubt you read something in Yahoo News, but I'd like to see exactly what it was you read.

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They should try to cure or transform people who believe in fictitious superstitions as though they were real.

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Things like Obama is more than smoke and mirrors himself?

I finally saw the video of that wizard putting a protect spell on Not Hillary. That was scary. I was waiting for David Koresh to make a cameo. Why were those guys holding her shoulders? Was it in case she fell down from "being moved" by the spirit. You know I have a clock that does a Sarah Palin impression ever hour it says cu-cu cu-cu!!

Spit,

It was a prayer, plain and simple. There were no spells, there was nothing scary, nothing unusual. There's not even the slightest hint of a Koresh-like cult. Laying hands on someone is a common religious practice in many forms, especially during prayer.

Church Cult, Prayer Chant, Spell Blessing, To me they are all the same thing. And this is coming from someone who spent 6 years as an alter boy and 10 years in catholic school.

To each his/her own Spit, I'm just saying the reality of this episode is far, far different than the sometimes unhinged portrayals I've seen.