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I'm watching McCain give his acceptance speech and he's not wearing a USA flag pin on his lapels.
He's got scars... you don't need a flag pin when you've got scars, and broken bones, and "spare @$$holes". (A "spare @$$hole" is what they call bullet wounds. A bullet wound tends to leave a puckered scar that looks just like an anus.)
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Oh? So those Greek columns only look good on Dubya's stage.
I never said that Obama's temple didn't look good. It looked quite nice in fact. But there's a huge difference between a pair of columns on a stage and an all-out temple built on high.
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Godhood? Wow! McCain is practically worshiped as Thor for his Nam story.
As he should be. He not only survived the Hanoi Hilton, he also risked his life and was badly injured saving other naval pilots from the fire on the USS Forestal. His heroism in the POW camp wasn't a fluke. This guy was a hero BEFORE he became a POW. He SHOULD be respected and worshipped for that. Not as a god, but as an incredible, self-sacrificing human being.
What is it that Obama has done that he should be worshipped for? Do you truly see a moral equivalence between McCain's accomplishments and Obama's?
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I agree. She's in and there's no looking back now. It is... what it is.
And what it is seems to be driving the Obama campaign nuts.
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Fortunately this is not about executive experience alone, otherwise we could just vote in thousands of qualified corporate bonus heavy titans over Palin.
True. But in the comparison between Obama, Biden, McCain and Palin, she comes out on top in terms of executive experience. Throw a Mike Bloomberg, Rudy Giuliani, or a Mitt Romney in there, and any one of them beat Pallin in terms of executive experience. But they aren't on the ticket. She is. And she beats all the other candidates for Pres or VP in this area. Trying to deny or discount that fact (which the Dems and the press seem to be trying to do) doesn't do anything but make the Dems less prepared to handle her in the next 7 weeks.
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I said nothing about a wedding, albeit shotgun or planned. I say Bristol got pregnant and that perhaps Sarah should get to know her daughter, since they live at the same residence.
Perhaps. But again, why attack either Sarah Pallin or Bristol Palin for Bristol getting pregnant, and then deciding to do the responsible thing, which is to marry and keep the baby? THAT is how one takes personal responsibility, and the whole point of the conservative ideology is "personal responsibility". Whether Bristol made a mistake or not is irrelevant. That she is taking responsibility and keeping the baby is the point. And it shows that her mother taught her that basic conservative value that says "if you screw up, you take responsibility for your mistake. (Contrast that with Obama STILL not admitting that he was wrong about the troop surge. He won't take responsibility for his mistake.)
(And please don't start with Bush's "mistake" of the war in Iraq. It wasn't a mistake, you will disagree with that, and considering the current state of affairs in Iraq... with the Iraqis taking up more and more responsibility, asking for more autonomy, and a $79 billion budget surplus for the Iraqi economy... I'm right, and so was Bush.)
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In all fairness it's not an issue for me concerning either parties candidates. I have no doubt that Michelle and Barack's kids are their own. But being black and given the higher percentage of African American single parent households, they would be scrutinized beyond the Palin family.
Apparently not.
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Schlesinger's not a liberal. She's a self proclaimed conservative.
She can call herself what she wants. She is a "social" conservative, but she's not a conservative pundit of any sort. Her economic statements are LIBERAL. On anything except family values stuff, she a liberal. I like her, but she is no more conservative than Joe Lieberman, who is ONLY conservative on foreign policy.
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Michelle's with the two girls and neither are pregnant, or have down syndrome. Just a fact.
A fact that I question. Given her time on the campaign trail, how much time is she spending with her kids?
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Jimmy had Roslyn at home with Amy. The Kennedy's could afford special services for Rosemary and FDR had good care as well.
And you think that the Vice President of the USA won't be able to aford a nanny for her kids, or that her husband won't spend time with the kids? Why does the press assume that because Pallin is a woman, the rules are different for her than for men in the White House? Aren't liberals supposed to be the ones who say that women can do anything that men can, and shouldn't be chained in the house with babies?
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OK. But before we carried away, I'm sure we could find a few political science graduates on the golf courses in Georgetown, West Lake, Lago Vista and other surrounding Austin areas. Maybe if we transplant them to Alaska where they can even drive in a snowmobile race like Sarah's husband. Let's not make that a qualification while were at it.
Are you denying that executive experience is an important qualification for President of the United States or that Palin has executive experience? Racing snowmobiles isn't a qualification for president, and neither is shooting a gun. But executive experience certainly is. Why are you likening the executive experience of Palin to the racing skills of her husband? Seems like a straw argument to me.
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Well I went to school with a Lisa Ingraham.
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Yes... Laura is a pretty women. Not quite as pretty as my wife (I'm scoring points!). Anyway the Pubs seem to want a beauty contest. Like I said in another post, McCain maybe archaic in his thinking, bones re-healed from Nam, but at 72 years old his eye sight is EXCELLENT!
Wasn't it Harry Reid who said that Obama was qualified because he's a "good looking, clean-cut, well spoken black man"? Who is putting appearance at the top of their qualifications list?
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As for the anti-Obama rhetoric it was certainly in the headlines for weeks at a time. Actually it was brought up by the Clinton campaign long before the Pubs.
Actually, the only "anti-Obama rhetoric" that I have been hearing from the Reps is a repetition of Obama's own statements and the repeated questioning of what Obama has accomplished that makes him qualified to be president. I won't speak for what the Clintonistas said or didn't say. If by anti-Obama you are referring to Reps pointing out that he has no experience and his political statces are wrong, then yeah, I guess there's been a lot of anti-Obama rhetoric.
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Obama was called and labeled the unpatriotic Muslim extremist for months.
By whom? Which Republican said that? I certainly don't agree with it. I happen to think that Obama is an Islamist (his ever-changing positions regarding Israel and Jerusalem make that clear enough), but that doesn't automatically make him unpatriotic. He's not unpatriotic. He's just wrong on issues of national security.
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It will be over in November than she can head back to Alaska.
Maybe. But I doubt it. This particular genie ain't going back in the lamp.
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Trust that the McCain campaign will keep her under wraps and tell there little princess puppet what to say and when.
Do you really believe that?
Even if the party wanted to do that (which I highly doubt, given how much she has electrified the campaign) do you think this attack-dog media that you have agreed is in play in this election cycle is going to let her get away with that?
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It will eventually come down to issues for them.
And that's where Obama loses. He keeps talking about change, but he has never (not even in his acceptance speech) listed what his changes would be. He has not enunciated one singl piece of solid policy on the issues. He has no history to point to and say "I did that, and I'll do it again". He can't make a straight policy decision on when human rights begin. He can't decide whether Jerusalem should remain unified or be divided. He can't decide on whether he backs public funding for his campaign or not. He can't decide whether Iran is a small little country that is no threat to us, or is a grave threat. His idea of energy policy is to inflate our tires, get tune-ups and use wind power, a technology that was rejected 150 years ago as being to costly and inefficient to work. On the issues, Obama loses. That's why Palin is so scary to him... she's got a better handle on the issues than he does.
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Again... so McCain thinks. He should had just begged Condi and he could had covered both bases. Obama will garnish the overwhelming amount of Hillary voters, both women and men.
And you think Hillary supporters were more likely to vote for Condi than Palin? I think you are dreaming.
As for Hillary's voters, you are right... the vast majority of them, approximately 2/3, will vote for Obama. But 1/3 won't... and that is 6 million voters who will either vote for the McCain/Palin ticket or who will stay home. They WON'T be voting for Obama.
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I didn't watch Biden's speech, but I'm sure compared to McCain's coma speech flat liner that I just finished listening to, it was at least pulsating.
Huh? Were you watching the same speech I did? McCain was electrifying in his talk of sacrifice for his country, his call to duty, etc. He did a fantastic job, and he brought the party together behind him. What were you watching.
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Sarah will get her chance at the debates.
Yep. I'm looking forward to it.
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But the polls had Reagan and Carter neck and neck going into the last week. Gaffs, which McCain is full of, should be the least of his worries as well. He's attached to Dubya you know what! That's his problem and he's not going to be able to shake that.
And as I mentioned, I don't think he has to. People's view of the war in Iraq has changed since the surge, and McCain is very attached to the surge. The success surge makes Bush AND McCain look better than they did 8 months ago.
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I agree. It should be a blow out by now. It was obvious to me not to vote for Dubya twice. But the public is not all in the same place at this time. I think the majority will arrive at the same conclusion.
Yeah... that's the definition of a majority... where most of them arrive at the same conclusion. :cool:
But what conclusion? That's where you and I seem to disagree.
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As compared to that wonderful trickle down Bush economics. No thanks. I have no doubt most Americans in that upper class range are going to hate Obama. But it's not going to bother me a bit.
So you like higher taxes?
The only way that you are not going to get higher taxes under Obama is if you don't buy anything, sell anything, gass up your car, or die, because while Obama claims he's going to cut income taxes for 95% of Americans (which is pure BS on it's own right), he plans on doubling the capital gains tax, raising gas taxes, raising CORPORATE income taxes (which will jack up your prices for simple everyday goods) and raising the death tax... all in addition to ending the Bush tax cuts.
But I'm glad that Obama's economics don't bother you a bit. You must be rich. Which isn't a bad thing... if you're rich, more power to you. But us regular Americans don't want more taxes.
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I need to spend time with the family the next few days. I'll catch you around. Don't be a stranger. It was good hearing from you.
Great hearing from you too, bro.
Have a great Shabbos.
Elliot