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Originally Posted by Galveston1

When you remove the moral foundation from society, the result is what you see, in the breakup of the family,

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Doesn't the family model precede civilization and religion? I agree with the others that the problem is consumerism and the drive to appear wealthy. We have have much less of that here in Canada. My kids have never heard of the bible yet they are great respectful children - it's about the parents not the book.

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Originally Posted by NeedKarma

...it's about the parents not the book.

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Of course that is so. Even the reason or cause for increased financial income is related to the habits, behavior, and even responsibility of parents.
But it is the capitalistic system that turned them into mental zombies on their way to the next shopping mall...

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Originally Posted by Credendovidis

Of course that is so. Even the reason or cause for increased financial income is related to the habits, behavior, and even responsibility of parents.
But it is the capitalistic system that turned them into mental zombies on their way to the next shopping mall ...

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Are you showing your true colors? It is soooo easy to bash capitalism and the profit motive when you have a fat bank account and a good position, but you digress from your own op.

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Originally Posted by Credendovidis

Of course that is so. Even the reason or cause for increased financial income is related to the habits, behavior, and even responsibility of parents.
But it is the capitalistic system that turned them into mental zombies on their way to the next shopping mall ...

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Or maybe it is this mentality that education is a government right provided for "free" [ via taxpayors].

There is a different mentality when you/parent[s] want an education and pay for it versus going to public school, where a greater percentage of the student body is not as serious about education.

No, I do not agree with teachers doleing out corporal punishment, writing a dictionary page and a phone call to an involved parent[s] should be enough.

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Originally Posted by Galveston1

Are you showing your true colors? It is soooo easy to bash capitalism and the profit motive when you have a fat bank account and a good position, but you digress from your own op.

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All I possess is the result of my own hard work and actions. All legal. I have always wondered about capitalism. Capitalism is the best present system to incite people to work for their daily bread. No problem at all with that. But it is also a system that is the hardest for the poor, the sick, and the needy. Give me the West European social democracy and guided capitalistic system of sharing and protecting the poor above the US version of "grabbing-whatever-you-can" any time.

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Originally Posted by inthebox

Or maybe it is this mentality that education is a government right provided for "free"

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What has "who pays for what" to do with corporal punishment?

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Originally Posted by inthebox

No, I do not agree with teachers doleing out corporal punishment, writing a dictionary page and a phone call to an involved parent[s] should be enough.

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At least we agree on that ! But what if that note or that call is not enough? What than? What other options are open but corporal punishment?

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Originally Posted by inthebox

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No, I do not agree with teachers doleing out corporal punishment, writing a dictionary page and a phone call to an involved parent[s] should be enough.

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Public schools aren't Sunday schools; what is the teacher to do when the 'student' looks back and says, "I'm not doing that." Oh yeah, go back for re-certification.