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  • Apr 21, 2008, 10:41 AM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by NeedKarma
    Most of the activities are bombings where americans happen to be present, random bombings. They weren't targeted.

    What part of "death to America" and "our nation will sit on the throne of the world" do you not understand?
  • Apr 21, 2008, 10:45 AM
    NeedKarma
    So you're scared of a fringe group who read their little manifest but has never appeared on your shores? I heard that the evil New Guinea Islamic terrorists have the same manifesto. LOL!
  • Apr 21, 2008, 11:11 AM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by NeedKarma
    So you're scared of a fringe group who read their little manifest but has never appeared on your shores? I heard that the evil New Guinea Islamic terrorists have the same manifesto. LOL!

    Nice try NK, I know you'd love to mock and intimidate me, but scared? Hardly. But, I do remember another fringe group that managed to hijack 4 commercial airliners, crash into the Pentagon killing 125 people, and two 110 story buildings taking them down along with over 2600 people - plus another 246 on the planes not counting the hijackers.

    And who's to say Hamas is not in the U.S.

    Hamas in America

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    Israel's assassination Monday of Hamas leader Khaled Abu Shamiyeh was a significant victory in the country's war against Palestinian terrorism. But it was by no means a decisive blow. Although Hamas has suffered numerous setbacks over the past several months - including the deaths of group kingpins Ahmed Yassin and Abdel Aziz Rantisi - it continues to expand its operations on a global scale. And, contrary to the longtime press canard that Hamas "only" seeks the destruction of Israel, and bears no ill will toward America, America is anything but safe from the group's wrath.

    On August 20, two suspected high-level Hamas operatives, Mohammed Salah and Abdelhaleem Ashqar, were detained on American soil and charged with providing material support to Hamas, racketeering, and money laundering.

    That same day, accused Hamas money man Ismail Elbarasse was arrested after authorities witnessed his wife videotaping Maryland's Chesapeake Bay Bridge from their SUV as Mr. Elbarasse drove. The images captured by Mr. Elbarasse's wife included close-ups of cables and other features "integral to the structural integrity of the bridge," according to court papers.
    HAMAS AGENTS LURKING IN U.S., FBI WARNS

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    Hamas terrorist leader Ahmed al-Rantisi may be dead, but his vow to strike America is very much alive.

    Shortly before he was killed, Rantisi told an audience at the Islamic University in Gaza that President Bush and Prime Minister Sharon were “enemies of God,”adding that “God declared war against America.” On April 18, shortly after the Israelis killed Rantisi, another terrorist group, Hezbollah, released a statement that said: “The American administration, which provides cover, both moral and political, as well as material support to the murderous government in Tel Aviv, has direct responsibility for this crime.”

    While that kind of rhetoric may sound typical for a terrorist leader in the Middle East today, it caught the attention of American counter-terrorist agents. In early 2002, the FBI concluded in an internal review that between 50 and 100 Hamas and Hezbollah operatives had already infiltrated America. The operatives were in America working on fund-raising and logistics, and they had received terrorist and military training from Lebanon and other countries in the Middle East, according to current and former intelligence officials. The FBI later concluded that Hamas and Hezbollah had the capacity to launch terrorist strikes on the homeland, but did not believe they intended to do so.

    The recent developments represent a potentially deadly development in the war on terrorism, suggesting a traditional boundary between Israeli and American targets for these groups was now blurred. While Hamas rescinded Mr. Rantisi’s remarks shortly after he made them, the rising anti-American rhetoric stemming from the terror organizations has prompted increased scrutiny of their networks in America.

    “In time, a very volatile and vitriolic hostility brewing in Gaza in particular will slowly suffuse itself to Hamas and Hezbollah cells in America. In the past couple of years we have already seen inflammatory rhetoric from their supporters in the United States. At some point in time it’s like the glass rod will snap,” a former senior FBI counterterrorism agent, Ken Piernick, told The New York Sun yesterday.
    Hamas 'capable of U.S. attacks'

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    Hamas has cells inside the United States that are technically capable of attacking the country, terrorism experts and senior security officials told WorldNetDaily.

    The officials were responding to a WND exclusive interview last week in which Hamas chief Mahmoud al-Zahar warned President Bush's actions in the Middle East are "placing America in danger."

    "We have information Hamas agents have been on U.S. soil the past few years and that the group may currently have up to 100 agents operating inside America," said an FBI counterterrorism agent in New York speaking on condition of anonymity since he is not authorized to talk to the media.

    The comments reaffirm testimony to the U.S. Senate this past February in which FBI Director Robert Mueller stated, "Although it would be a major strategic shift for Hamas, its United States network is theoretically capable of facilitating acts of terrorism in the United States."
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    In February 2005 testimony before the Senate Intelligence Committee, FBI Director Robert Mueller acknowledged that “of all the Palestinian groups, Hamas has the largest presence in the U.S. with a robust infrastructure, primarily focused on fundraising, propaganda for the Palestinian cause, and proselytizing.” During that same hearing, Director Mueller acknowledged that Hamas’ “United States network is theoretically capable of facilitating acts of terrorism in the United States.”
    An Islamic Jihadist here, an Islamic Jihadist there, no big deal right? Keep telling yourself that, NK.
  • Apr 21, 2008, 11:18 AM
    NeedKarma
    Another jihad on America. Why does that happen so often?
  • Apr 21, 2008, 01:12 PM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by NeedKarma
    Another jihad on America. Why does that happen so often?

    Don't worry NK, if you're buddy Obama wins I'm sure appeasement will be our policy, just like Canada and Europe.
  • Apr 21, 2008, 02:59 PM
    speechlesstx
    Some dedicated Hamas terrorists have blown themselves up in an "internal event" last week.

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    Earlier Sunday, three Hamas terrorists were killed and seven others were wounded in an explosion in the northern Gaza town of Jabalya.

    Initially, Hamas laid the blame on the IAF, but later stated that the explosion was an "internal event."

    The IDF reported there was no military activity in the area. The explosion was assessed to be a "work accident" of terrorists preparing explosive devices or an accidental combustion of old munitions.
    Will they still get to enjoy their 72 virgins?
  • Apr 21, 2008, 03:40 PM
    NeedKarma
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by speechlesstx
    Don't worry NK, if you're buddy Obama wins I'm sure appeasement will be our policy, just like Canada and Europe.

    No jihad against us. No one blows us up in foreign countries. Obama is the way to go if that's the lifestyle one wants (and who wouldn't!).
  • Apr 22, 2008, 06:07 AM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by NeedKarma
    No jihad against us. No one blows us up in foreign countries. Obama is the way to go if that's the lifestyle one wants (and who wouldn't!).

    Exactly, the Jihadists have no quarrel with dhimmis. :D
  • Apr 22, 2008, 06:18 AM
    NeedKarma
    I had to look it up and found this: Dhimmi - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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    "The word dhimmi (plural dimam) literally means "protection, care, custody, covenant of protection, compact; responsibility, answerableness; financial obligation, liability, debt; inviolability, security of life and property; safeguard, guarantee, security; conscience" and ahl-dhimmi is "the free non-Muslim subjects living in Muslim countries who, in return for paying the capital tax, enjoyed protection and safety."
    How does that fit into our discussion?
  • Apr 22, 2008, 06:28 AM
    tomder55
    Simple ; rather than fight them you appease them.eventually according to their doctrine you will either convert or be a dhimmi in the greater ummah
  • Apr 22, 2008, 06:30 AM
    NeedKarma
    We neither fight nor appease since they have no qualm with us. Being the war monger you are you seek conflict and domination everywhere you go, we do not.

    You seem quite familiar with the rhetoric, are you sure you are not a muslim?
  • Apr 22, 2008, 06:34 AM
    tomder55
    Nor do you have the means or desire to even defend what is yours.
    Canada, Denmark dispute ownership of tiny Arctic island
  • Apr 22, 2008, 06:38 AM
    NeedKarma
    Dude, you're all over the map. My god you are negative about everything. Lighten up and enjoy the good parts of life, more canadian-like. :D

    BTW you seem to answer posts directed at speech like you guys are the same person, it's weird
  • Apr 22, 2008, 06:45 AM
    tomder55
    OK good advice.don't worry be hapy ! Be happy you live under the US defense umbrella.. :>

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