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Originally Posted by NeedKarma

You seems a little confused. There is no such thing as "free" health care, not anywhere in the world. It's called socialized medicine or publicly funded health care (like here in Canada). Whoever told you it's free is quite ignorant. In the same vein as there are no free roads or firefighter service, it's all from the tax base.

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Actually, the key word is "universal", at least for Hillary; she criticizes Obama for leaving "out" some folks. I heard Hillary say, "It's time for the US to provide quality health care to every one. The insurance companies have too much power over your life." She is not going to speak publicly about the cost; and she doesn't mind the power government insurance would have over Americans. Just look at the mess at Veterans Hospitals; not that all of them are bad. But American health care, in just a few years, will look like American education if the Dem/fascists get their plan into law.

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Originally Posted by excon

Hello agian, 8:

Yup.

excon

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Hello again ex:

This is all becoming much clearer to me now.

Thanks.

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"if the Dem/fascists get their plan into law."


I hear the media refer to the right as the fascists, and I thought the right was Republican?

Fascism is national socialism . Communism is international socialism Which spectrum is more socialist ? Right or left ?

fascism - Definition from the Merriam-Webster Online Dictionary

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1 often capitalized : a political philosophy, movement, or regime (as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition

2: a tendency toward or actual exercise of strong autocratic or dictatorial control <early instances of army fascism and brutality — J. W. Aldridge>

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People were using this term recently referring to the US usually referring to its leader and the powers he has given himself. Also the unauthorized spying on the citizentry has helped the 'controlling by fear' method of governance that fascists/dictators seem to enjoy.

The inconventient truth is that fascism is a left-wing ideology, in that it is clearly 'statist' (favors a big state), totalitarian (regulating everything), and collective (downplaying the rights of the individual). This is related to the Jacobinians of the French Revolution and other ideologies that favor the 'Common good' over individual rights.

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Originally Posted by George_1950

"if the Dem/fascists get their plan into law."


I hear the media refer to the right as the fascists, and I thought the right was Republican?

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You won't learn about fascism from the media; they want to characterize fascism as "right wing", when fascism and communism are joined at the hip: both are command/authoritarian systems of government. While both are dictatorial, in communist states all property is owned by "the people", while in fascist states property may be privately owned, whether by individuals or monopolies. So, if fascism and communism are both on the left, what is on the right? Individualism, libertarianism, etc. under which individuals own property and have the right to do with it what they will.