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  • Feb 19, 2008, 04:42 AM
    Greg Quinn
    Zeitgeist - The Movie, 2007
  • Feb 19, 2008, 07:29 AM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by NeedKarma
    Why are you giving women a free pass in all this? They are the ones making the primary decision to MURDER! Everyone else is just an accessory to the crime. Should the women not be taken into custody?

    I guess that's a matter of perspective NK, the doctor is the one actually taking the life of the child - I guess you could say "murder for hire."

    This is one area where I can actually feel comfortable playing the victim card. When abortion advocates have not only encouraged abortion - virtually made it their raison d'être - spent years desensitizing the public, sanitizing it as "choice," "health care," "reproductive freedom," denying the humanity of the child, what do you expect? Women have been deceived into believing abortion is nothing more than a legal, minor surgical procedure. Why punish the mother?
  • Feb 19, 2008, 06:11 PM
    Galveston1
    If the SCOTUS would just declare that the babe in utro is a citizen and has civil rights this slaughter would come to a screeching halt. I know, then the women will go to some back alley. But then, there would be the possibility of prosecution for everyone involved. The number of abortions would become statistically insignificant.
  • Feb 19, 2008, 06:28 PM
    Allheart
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by speechlesstx
    I guess that's a matter of perspective NK, the doctor is the one actually taking the life of the child - I guess you could say "murder for hire."

    This is one area where I can actually feel comfortable playing the victim card. When abortion advocates have not only encouraged abortion - virtually made it their raison d'être - spent years desensitizing the public, sanitizing it as "choice," "health care," "reproductive freedom," denying the humanity of the child, what do you expect? Women have been deceived into believing abortion is nothing more than a legal, minor surgical procedure. Why punish the mother?


    This is such a sad an painful issue and I would never voice my opinion on this issue. The reason for that is I just can't imagine the pain one must carry knowing what took place.
    I would never point at someone's wound. Sorry, it's not making sense. I guess what I am saying is, it is too painful the whole thing and I just hurt for everyone and just can not even imagine what they must carry with them and would never stand in judgement. I hurt the way the must hurt. Anyway...

    In high school, we saw a film about abortion. And unlike the Catholic school at that time, the ending was graphic and real. It showed what happens to the babies after the procedure. Where they all end up. Just would scar you for life to see.

    I pray and feel for anyone who has ever had to contend with this issue.
  • Feb 19, 2008, 10:44 PM
    magprob
    Yes, and there are still billions of chickens that remember Col. Sanders as the worst terrorist to ever live. Terrorism comes in many forms. There are evil doors everywhere. We must work to crush terrorism at every turn.

    YouTube - UNDER DOG (TRAILER)


    OK, I got to go puke now. Scuse Me.
  • Feb 20, 2008, 07:37 AM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Allheart
    This is such a sad an painful issue and I would never voice my opinion on this issue. The reason for that is I just can't imagine the pain one must carry knowing what took place.

    If an issue is that sad and painful to you, that's the time to voice an opinion. It just might help someone else avoid facing that pain.
  • Feb 20, 2008, 07:39 AM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by magprob
    Yes, and there are still billions of chickens that remember Col. Sanders as the worst terrorist to ever live. Terrorism comes in many forms. There are evil doors everywhere. We must work to crush terrorism at every turn.

    LOL, how does a fried chicken remember the Colonel?
  • Feb 20, 2008, 07:46 AM
    Allheart
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by magprob
    Yes, and there are still billions of chickens that remember Col. Sanders as the worst terrorist to ever live. Terrorism comes in many forms. There are evil doors everywhere. We must work to crush terrorism at every turn.

    YouTube - UNDER DOG (TRAILER)


    OK, I gotta go puke now. Scuse Me.


    Oh my gosh, if it wasn't for speak, I wouldn't of caught on to this. I was so enthrawed in the topic.

    Mag - you are a specil one my dear :).

    I can tell J has been awful busy... as someone, not mentioning annnnny names, has not been taken his meds. :eek:
  • Feb 20, 2008, 07:50 AM
    Allheart
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by speechlesstx
    If an issue is that sad and painful to you, that's the time to voice an opinion. It just might help someone else avoid facing that pain.


    Speech I hear you. I actually did March on Washington while in high school.

    If I were asked, prior to it happening, I would in no uncertain terms share my belief.

    My biggest fear, is the pain that I would cause, vocing my belief and someone seeing it or hearing it, after they had already acted on their decision. What good would that kind of pain cause. And that is my uge struggle for keeping it to myself.

    I'm a head case I know. But an admitted one. Just feel bad for the Mr. :o
  • Feb 20, 2008, 08:39 AM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Allheart
    My biggest fear, is the pain that I would cause, vocing my beleif and someone seeing it or hearing it, after they had already acted on their decision. What good would that kind of pain cause. And that is my uge struggle for keeping it to myself.

    I'm a head case I know. But an admitted one. Just feel bad for the Mr. :o

    Alheart, if ever there were an appropriate screen name I think yours is the one ;)
  • Feb 20, 2008, 09:04 AM
    Allheart
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by speechlesstx
    Alheart, if ever there were an appropriate screen name I think yours is the one ;)


    Speech - thank you so much. It's not intentional - I promise you that.

    I picked it because it concerned me that I always thought with my heart and not my head.
    When it comes to "thought" questions, you will see how much I struggle. It doesn't mean I am a good person, it's that I only use one tool :(. Not meaning to put myself down, just explaining :). And fessing up :).

    It's when I use my head that all goes plllllllllllp. Not very well.

    But thank you very much.
  • Feb 20, 2008, 10:15 AM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Allheart
    I picked it because it concerned me that I always thought with my heart and not my head. When it comes to "thought" questions, you will see how much I struggle. It doesn't mean I am a good person, it's that I only use one tool :(. Not meaning to put myself down, just explaining :). and fessing up :).

    It's when I use my head that all goes plllllllllllp. Not very well.

    But thank you very much.

    Methinks you may be a little too hard on yourself at times. :)
  • Feb 20, 2008, 10:25 AM
    jillianleab
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by speechlesstx
    What was the point of this exercise, and especially this article? The first example the writer mentions is "abortion" terrorism, then mentions "white-supremacist" groups 3 times, "right-wing extremists" twice and "left-wing activists" once. Apparently white-supremacists are a big concern to the author and right-wing terrorists are "extremists" while left-wing terrorists are merely "activists." Sounds noble doesn't it?

    While you might be right and there might be some secret ulterior motive from the writer to evoke thoughts of right-wingers being "extremists" while left-wingers are merely "activists", it is my opinion that's a bit of a reach. :) From the standpoint of a writer, it is cumbersome to use the same term multiple times in a sentence or in a short paragraph; I suspect that is why you see the difference in terms used. It's a pretty short article, only 580 words.

    The word "extremist" appears ten times in the article; including the headline. Five times it's used in conjunction with the word "domestic", twice as a descriptive word, twice with "right-wing" before it and once referencing environmentalists (left wingers). The first reference to "activists" is used with "environmental", which is common language, so to me, it's not an indication of bias from the author's standpoint. The second time it's used it is coupled with "left-wing", but it's used 14 words after the word "extremists", which, in my opinion is better because it would be awkward to use the same word twice in the same sentence. Of the three times in the article the author mentions "environmentalists" with a party affiliation, twice it's used with "activist" (which, as I already said is common language) and once it's used with "extremist".

    Oh, and the three references to "white supremacists" were to illustrate the three types of extremist groups; political, religious and youth. It makes the most sense to use the same type of organization to illustrate this point because then the reader can see groups protesting the same thing can have different motivations.

    So my opinion? Your panties and in a wad for 'nuthin! :D
  • Feb 20, 2008, 10:27 AM
    Allheart
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by speechlesstx
    Methinks you may be a little too hard on yourself at times. :)

    Me thinks you are very kind. :)

    Note to self: easy does it :)
  • Feb 20, 2008, 10:44 AM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Allheart
    Me thinks you are very kind. :)

    Awww, thank you. But careful with the kind words - it might ruin my reputation among some as a bigoted, fascist, right-wing neocon evangelical :D
  • Feb 20, 2008, 10:56 AM
    Allheart
    Sorry... :o

    You're a kind bigoted, fascist, right-wing neocon evangelical.. :p

    Whew that was a keyboard full (your all those things :confused: Your one busy guy :)
  • Feb 20, 2008, 11:04 AM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Allheart
    Sorry....:o

    Your a kind bigoted, fascist, right-wing neocon evangelical ..:p

    whew that was a keyboard full (your all those things :confused: Your one busy guy :)

    Well, some people just give me more credit than I deserve ;)
  • Feb 20, 2008, 11:08 AM
    Allheart
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by speechlesstx
    Well, some people just give me more credit than I deserve ;)


    Humility is a wonderful trait... add it to your resume my friend ;)
  • Feb 20, 2008, 06:43 PM
    magprob
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by speechlesstx
    LOL, how does a fried chicken remember the Colonel?

    There were some survivors. Chickens can't write (Chicken Scratch) so they pass down the stories generation to generation.
  • Feb 21, 2008, 07:28 AM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by magprob
    There were some survivors. Chickens can't write (Chicken Scratch) so they pass down the stories generation to generation.

    So some saved their nuggets in a "Chicken Run?"

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