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  • Feb 13, 2008, 01:39 PM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by NeedKarma
    Nah Choux, it happened, It was a small volunteer office. Nothing to fret about.

    http://littlegreenfootballs.com/webl...heHouston2.jpg

    Quote:

    "A revolutionary must become a cold killing machine motivated by pure hate." Che Guevara.

    "If the nuclear missiles had remained we would have used them against the very heart of America, including New York City." Che Guevara.

    "We will march the path of victory even if it costs millions of atomic victims... We must keep our hatred alive and fan it to paroxysm." Che Guevara.

    "Crazy with fury I will stain my rifle red while slaughtering any enemy that falls in my hands! My nostrils dilate while savoring the acrid odor of gunpowder and blood. With the deaths of my enemies I prepare my being for the sacred fight and join the triumphant proletariat with a bestial howl! Hatred as an element of struggle; unbending hatred for the enemy, which pushes a human being beyond his natural limitations, making him into an effective, violent, selective and cold blooded killing machine. This is what our soldiers must become…” Che Guevara.

    "(T)o execute a man we don't need proof of his guilt. We only need proof that it's necessary to execute him. It's that simple." Che Guevara.
    Fidel's executioner glorified in a campaign office is nothing to fret about?
  • Feb 13, 2008, 01:43 PM
    NeedKarma
    You are to laugh at. LOL!
    Your tactics are juvenile.
  • Feb 13, 2008, 01:47 PM
    Fr_Chuck
    Yes, the news article on him and the cuban flag came out on Monday from my understanding, perosnally I would not put it past another democratic canidate from leaking it.

    But it was all over talk radio and some of the political news coverage.
  • Feb 13, 2008, 01:54 PM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Dark_crow
    …but don’t like him relative to whom? What are the options? What are the actual differences between him and Mc Cain other than age and personality?

    The choice seems to be between a guy with an increasingly less conservative, but 82.3 percent lifetime ACU rating, a guy with an 8.0 percent lifetime ACU rating and Hillary, with a 9.0 percent lifetime ACU rating. As a conservative it seems like a no-brainer even if I'm not all that happy with the choice.
  • Feb 13, 2008, 02:07 PM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by NeedKarma
    You are to laugh at. LOL!
    Your tactics are juvenile.

    Facts sure beat "more lies" or "you're an angry guy." :D
  • Feb 13, 2008, 03:09 PM
    NeedKarma
    Ok, let's play your little game. I'll assume those quotes are indeed from Che. It begs the question: so what?
  • Feb 13, 2008, 03:35 PM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by NeedKarma
    Ok, let's play your little game. I'll assume those quotes are indeed from Che. It begs the question: so what?

    NK, what amazes me is you think it's a game. When I see Americans running around wearing Che T-shirts and images of Che in a campaign office of a presidential candidate I wonder why anyone would glorify this murderous thug.

    The Cult of Che

    Fidel's Executioner
  • Feb 13, 2008, 04:08 PM
    NeedKarma
    Who's choice was it to hang the flag?
    What values of Che does that person espouse (and would you know this answer)?
  • Feb 13, 2008, 04:18 PM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by NeedKarma
    Who's choice was it to hang the flag?
    What values of Che does that person espouse (and would you know this answer)?

    I have already noted Obama had nothing to do with this, but National Review asks the question this way, "What does it say that among these Obama volunteers, none of them thought to say, "hey, fellas, you know, this guy ran show trials and executions... Is this really the image of 'change' we want to project to the electorate?"

    If Obama chooses to open an official office there I bet he redecorates, but his response was rather mild wouldn't you say?

    Quote:

    "The office featured in this video is funded by volunteers of the Barack Obama Campaign and is not an official headquarters for his campaign."
    As for "what values of Che does that person espouse," which one should they espouse?
  • Feb 13, 2008, 04:20 PM
    NeedKarma
    It seems it was a lady in the picture. Since this is near your location have you tracked the person down and asked them directly their motivation behind hanging the flag?
  • Feb 13, 2008, 04:20 PM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tomder55
    Bringing the issue back to Obama ; I saw this in American Thinker and I believe it to be generally correct.

    Did you catch this by Chris Matthews?

    Quote:

    I have to tell you, you know, it's part of reporting this case, this election, the feeling most people get when they hear Barack Obama's speech. My, I felt this thrill going up my leg. I mean, I don't have that too often.
    LOL!
  • Feb 13, 2008, 04:22 PM
    talaniman
    I doubt Obama knew of the flag, and since he seems to be gaining momentum so fast, it's a wonder someone didn't start slinging mud earlier. Its an attempt to derail his progress, in my opinion. Lets face it we haven't seen this much enthusiasm with a presidential candidate since Reagon. The fact new voters are signing up is impressive, and will be a real problem for John McCain, if Hillary doesn't win big in TEXAS. I do mean big.
  • Feb 13, 2008, 04:29 PM
    NeedKarma
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by talaniman
    since he seems to be gaining momentum so fast, its a wonder someone didn't start slinging mud earlier

    Never fear, our 'friends' in the Politics forum always have that covered. :D
  • Feb 13, 2008, 05:10 PM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by NeedKarma
    Never fear, our 'friends' in the Politics forum always have that covered. :D

    I acknowledged Obama wasn't responsible for the flag. I acknowledged he's done more than the 5 successful bills he's passed and said I like the guy. Where's the mud?
  • Feb 14, 2008, 03:25 AM
    tomder55
    Slinging mud ? No I have to take a back seat to Clinton henchman Bob Kerry who raised the spectre of Obama's Muslim backround... or the Clintoon hacks who suggested that Obama was dealing drugs
  • Feb 14, 2008, 04:09 AM
    NeedKarma
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tomder55
    slinging mud ? no I have to take a back seat to Clinton henchman Bob Kerry who raised the spectre of Obama's Muslim backround....or the the Clintoon hacks who suggested that Obama was dealing drugs

    Do they post on this website? :rolleyes:
  • Feb 14, 2008, 04:30 AM
    tomder55
    No ; they take it national .
  • Feb 14, 2008, 04:44 AM
    NeedKarma
    I was referring to this website. I can't believe you couldn't figure that out.:(
  • Feb 14, 2008, 07:06 PM
    Galveston1
    Obama does read a teleprompter well!
    It may be that those who do not live in this country take all this lightly, but to those of us who will have to put up with whoever gets elected, it is a very serious matter.
  • Feb 14, 2008, 08:13 PM
    biggsie
    I think it is AMAZING that Barak Obama -- has done as well as he has against The Clinton's

    And Mc Cain is not someone I could vote for -- hard to decide which one deserves my vote

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