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  • Sep 3, 2010, 06:54 AM
    tomder55

    The complexity of the mind of Hawking is boggling .
    There are laws without lawgivers ;there are effects without cause, there is creation without a creator.
    I guess 'stranger than fiction' is a valid axiom in this case .But mathematics has that covered too. There are logical axioms and non-logical ones.
  • Sep 3, 2010, 07:09 AM
    excon

    Hello:

    Well, you guys have a STAKE in the outcome of this discussion, don't you?? Otherwise, your lives will become shams... So, I'd stick to it too.

    I'm one of the lucky ones, though, because if I'm wrong, God will STILL welcome me into heaven... But, if YOU'RE wrong, you've wasted your life...

    What?? MY God doesn't require selfless devotion to him like yours does... Besides, MY God thinks it's cool to smoke his natural herbs, and he HATES people who put smokers in jail. So, you better hope that it's YOUR God at the gates instead of MINE.

    excon
  • Sep 3, 2010, 07:15 AM
    tomder55

    Glad to see the acknowledgement of a 'higher' authority .
    You truly are 'evolving '.
  • Sep 3, 2010, 07:49 AM
    tomder55
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    Maybe that Large Hadron Collider scientists created is already duplicating it.

    Romans 1 :19-22
  • Sep 3, 2010, 07:54 AM
    asking
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Wondergirl View Post
    [Hawking] adds: "Because there is a law such as gravity, the universe can and will create itself from nothing."

    Where did gravity come from?

    Where did God come from?
    God's mom and dad!
  • Sep 3, 2010, 07:59 AM
    excon
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by asking View Post
    Where did God come from?
    God's mom and dad!

    Hello asking:

    **greenie**

    Pretty astute question.

    excon
  • Sep 3, 2010, 08:49 AM
    albear
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    Really, NK? Seriously now, "spontaneous creation is the reason there is something" is how we all got here? Who did the spontaneous creating?

    Nobody's to blame, its just one of those things
  • Sep 3, 2010, 08:52 AM
    albear
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    Genesis has been dutifully revised :

    1:1 In the beginning there was nothing ,the universe was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep.

    1:2 And then it exploded.

    Spontanious combustion :D
  • Sep 3, 2010, 08:58 AM
    excon

    Hello again,

    Actually, it's parallel "branes" (membranes) from other dimensions that sometimes come together to create a bang and a Universe. It happens all the time - if there IS such a thing as time..

    That's as simple as I can explain the physics. Don't you wish you were as smart as Hawking and me?

    excon
  • Sep 3, 2010, 08:59 AM
    NeedKarma
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by albear View Post
    spontanious combustion :D

    Like voices coming from burning bushes or talking snakes. LOL!
  • Sep 3, 2010, 09:12 AM
    albear
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    The complexity of the mind of Hawking is boggling .
    There are laws without lawgivers ;there are effects without cause, there is creation without a creator.
    I guess 'stranger than fiction' is a valid axiom in this case .But mathematics has that covered too. There are logical axioms and non-logical ones.

    Guess its better to say 'i don't know how it happened' than to say 'my imaginary friend did it'
  • Sep 3, 2010, 09:26 AM
    albear
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    Like voices coming from burning bushes or talking snakes. LOL!

    And suddenly the bush burst into flames and started talking to abraham wasn't it? :D
  • Sep 3, 2010, 09:45 AM
    tomder55

    Moses
  • Sep 3, 2010, 09:47 AM
    excon
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    Moses

    Hello again,

    Nahhh... It was Charlton Heston...

    excon
  • Sep 3, 2010, 09:47 AM
    Kitkat22

    Doesn't matter what Hawkings said... it's about what the Bible says.. the words in red.
  • Sep 3, 2010, 09:50 AM
    NeedKarma
    What words in red??
  • Sep 3, 2010, 09:56 AM
    Kitkat22

    The New Testament. Yes the old testament was where creation was written about, it's the foundation for the new testament.

    Okay not going to argue with you. Bye
  • Sep 3, 2010, 09:59 AM
    shazamataz
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by asking View Post
    Where did God come from?
    God's mom and dad!

    I was going to ask the same thing!

    If the Universe could be created out of nothing what about God?
    That means God had to be created by someone seeing as how he couldn't just appear out of nothing!
  • Sep 3, 2010, 09:59 AM
    NeedKarma
    @kit
    Not arguing, just wanted to know where do we see words written in red.
  • Sep 3, 2010, 10:01 AM
    Kitkat22
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    @kit
    Not arguing, just wanted to know where do we see words written in red.




    NK... The words that Jesus spoke are written in red.

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