Ask Me Help Desk - The Mueller indictments

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Originally Posted by tomder55

yup SOP for administrations at mid term.

Yeah had nothing to do with Sessions recusing himself from the Russia investigation, and being replaced by the guy who publicly states that investigating the dufus is out of bounds. It's just a coincidence the whole dufus campaign crew was indicted, or convicted and have jail sentences pending after plea deals.

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And 4 Americans were killed in Benghazi while the Pres stood around and did nothing. Oh wait... that wasn't Trump, was it?

Does that relieve the dufus of accountability for his actions?

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Does that relieve the dufus of accountability for his actions?

No. Just thought a little perspective would be helpful. Benghazi was a really big deal, and this is a not nearly so big deal.

One day you may let go of your nose and BREATH! Corruption is a big deal, as is OBSTRUCTION of an ongoing investigation. Innocent people have no fear of an investigation, nor try to get a sycophant to protect him from one.

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Corruption is a big deal, as is OBSTRUCTION of an ongoing investigation. Innocent people have no fear of an investigation.

I agree with you on that one. I would point out, however, that there was no call for an investigation of Benghazi, or the IRS, or the Veteran's Admin, or the "Fast and Furious" operation by liberals. Only conservatives called for those pretty obvious cases of corruption to be investigated. Mr. Obama even went so far as to advance the ridiculous claim that there was no scandal in his administration.

We've had this Russia investigation for what, 18 months, and so far a dry well. I guess once we get out to five or ten years, liberals will finally grow weary of the zero batting average.

LOL, that's reall funny considering you investigated the Clinton for decades, including how many repub led congressional hearings? They have investigated Benghazi, look it up for yourself, independently and issued a report, and recommendations and all that stuff. You seem to make Benghazi and Hillary your default answer to everything the dufus does.

Oh, but you didn't read carefully. Liberals want to investigate Trump, and conservatives want to investigate HC and Obama. Neither one has much room to play the "holier than thou" game. So when you say that "corruption is a big deal", I understand that to mean corruption on the conservative side, since you have never seem to be even the slightest bit upset over the sins of Mr. Obama or Hillary.

Now I would be upset about Kavanaugh or Trump IF IF IF I could locate some evidence that seems to point towards their guilt.

I make few mentions of conservatives or liberals JL, and confine the CURRENT corruption to the dufus and his protecting sycophants. The evidence though incomplete, is steadily mounting through his own campaign crew being indicted, and the growing financial trail left by unindicted cabinet members, and economic ties to foreign countries. We even have EVIDENCE that lies were told about those contacts, and plenty of wrong intent spoken by the dufus himself.

You saying there is no probable cause to investigate is absurd on it's face and a complete abrogation of the RULE of LAW! We know of the actions of foreign agents on the 2016 elections, we have the EVIDENCE of that. Regardless repubs had YEARS and decades to bring charges and still can against what they think are liberal wrongdoing to a court of law, and they have NOT.

Either conservatives are incompetent or wrong, and so nothing to do with a COMPETENT investigation on the dufus and his corrupt cronies and bringing them to justice. Hey, if he gets cleared of wrong doing, then more power to him. Forgive me for not taking HIS word or YOURS about his innocents. Sorry but so many corrupt individuals in this group is not a ringing endorsement for the innocence of the leader of the group.

If your position is that all the apples in this barrel are rotten except for one, then you got nothing!

Mueller is wrapping up his investigation within the month with or without the change at AG . Now I'm hearing the Dem echo chamber saying Whitaker has conflicts of interest . Hilarious ! Not once did they bring up the very obvious conflicts of interest with Rosenstein.

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confine the CURRENT corruption to the dufus and his protecting sycophants

That's kind of the point I was making.

Good luck with your continuing decades long HC thing, I doubt if you wish Mueller any luck.

Here is NY we have been living with her corruption and fraud since 1980.

Hey Broward and Palm beach ..... did you find enough hanging chads to steal the election for Nelson and Gillum yet ? No ? keep looking . You have until Saturday to stuff those ballots into your cars .

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Originally Posted by tomder55

Here is NY we have been living with her corruption and fraud since 1980.

Hey Broward and Palm beach ..... did you find enough hanging chads to steal the election for Nelson and Gillum yet ? No ? keep looking . You have until Saturday to stuff those ballots into your cars .

I feel for you Tom, since the dufus and various others have been there as long if not a lot longer. I can see where you could be cynical... no font needed.

https://ecp.yusercontent.com/mail?ur...MqE9YAZLPw--~C

it appears the Dems will be successful in stealing the Florida election. No one in the country should be happy with the fraud being done there .

Or you could read the Florida stautes concerning counting votes.

Not surprised repubs would holler foul before the process has been duly certified. You want instant results, then spend the dough for the right technology.

instant results ? Would that be counting ballots in secret closed rooms ;destroying ballots like Brenda Snipes has been known to do ? Here is the game . They allow people who can't prove they are eligible to vote to fill out a provisional ballot. . They are put on hold and only become an issue during recounts . So then Snipes and the clown in Palm Beach lose enough Republican ballots so by certification day (tomorrow) the percentage is low enough that a recount is mandatory . Then the provisional ballots come into play.

Tal the counties in Florida run their elections and choose the technology and their election commissioners . I find it interesting that only in Democrat districts ;in states with close races trending against the Dems ,does the technology used becomes an issue. It is amazing ! Dems used to be sore losers . Now they are sore winners .

Not over with yet. Judge sides with republican candidate Rick Scott. So far they have "found" nearly one hundred thousand votes above what was reported on election night. Ridiculous.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/jud...tion-officials

Relax fellas until after the votes have been counted. Repubs pulled this same tactic before,

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brooks_Brothers_riot

Yet we have no voter fraud,

https://talkingpointsmemo.com/dc/flo...egations-scott

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Less than 24 hours after Gov. Rick Scott called for the Florida Department of Law Enforcement to investigate “rampant fraud” in his U.S. Senate race, the department said that there are no voter fraud allegations to look into and that Scott made no formal request for an investigation.

It's all red meat for the loony crowd and the cameras.

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brooks_Brothers_riot

Yet we have no voter fraud,

The whole Fla 2000 fiasco was fraud and a perfect example of what I am referring to . They kept on recounting and recounting until they would've gotten the results they wanted …...until SCOTUS stopped the process.
The Miami Herald and USA Today did an independent recount after the election and determined that Bush indeed won the election.

They haven't gotten to the recount as yet, they're still just counting.

They have come up with about a hundred thousand ballots that were somehow not counted on Tuesday. You don't find that to be alarming?

Not really, but I have seen this type of thing before not just in Florida, but many states. It's more a consequence of close races than fraud though, and human tribal angst. Across the nation there are more than 60 counties still counting votes.

No EVIDENCE of fraud despite the hollering that there is.

100,000 "newly found" votes is not evidence of fraud? Fifty here or a hundred there could be understood, but 100K? That's hard to explain.

LOL, don't get excited! If law enforcement is watching for fraud why would you get hyped by a newspaper article of what some pundit says? Trust but verify, and if it's so concerning to you INVESTIGATE and see if you have EVIDENCE of fraud before you get excited.

Reasonable? Or do you have that EVIDENCE?

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If law enforcement is watching for fraud

A judge has already ruled they are violating the Constitution.

In Florida they ruled to provide data and access to the Scott campaign according to your link

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A state judge on Friday sided with Florida Republican Rick Scott in ordering that Republicans be granted “immediate” access to requested information about ballots in Broward County, amid explosive lawsuits against the county’s top election official....
Phillips ordered Broward County Supervisor of Elections Brenda Snipes to allow for the “immediate inspection” and “photocopying” of the requested records no later than 7 p.m. Friday.

Violation and unconstitutional don't have the same meaning or consequences, and while repubs cry fraud, none has been found. An announcement is forthcoming today likely leading to a recount in 3 Florida political races. That puts final results off until sometimes next week around Wednesday.

That's the process as I understand the reading of the Florida statutes and why I provided a link to it so we could all get UNDERSTANDING to the lawful process.

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They have announced a recount process for 4 Florida State Election races.

Maybe this is why Comey was so lenient with Evita ?

https://nypost.com/2018/11/09/james-...private-email/

Clintons email scandal was a nothing burger from the beginning. Just a continuation of the decades long smear campaign repubs waged.

According to the IG , an investigation in 2017 by the FBI’s Inspection Division found that, before Comey’s 2016 statement, “the FBI ... successfully determined classified information was improperly stored and transmitted on Clinton’s email server,
and classified information was compromised by unauthorized individuals, to include foreign governments or intelligence services, via cyber intrusion or other means.”

You try to divert from the real issue here by making a bogus link with Trump and Russian hackers ;when the real crime was the criminally unauthorized using of an unsecured server to do sensitive government communications . Comey went easy on her by his own admission because he too was compromised with a "careless" use of and unauthorized device .

Relitigating old so called scandals in the face of new ones is fascinating to me Tom, as how can we ignore the current events of NOW, such as the appointment of Matt Whitaker replacing the fired Jeff Sessions as an obvious foil to the Mueller investigation. So before you run the talking points of the dufus hiring and firing whomever he pleases, let me ask is it too much to expect his picks to not have a potentially criminal background, or under investigation by the very entity he now heads? Geez come on man!

I'll let you do the homework as not to prejudice the forum with FAUX NEWS! HINT: Google Matt Whitaker. See how easy I made it to copy and paste with no typing necessary? You're welcome.

come on man ! Your diversion is that Whitaker served on the advisory board of a company under FBI investigation ? A position he was paid
$9,375 for his service ? What did he do ;lick the stamps ? Actually I know what his service was . He appeared in some promotional videos .Ok so he will have to recuse himself from any part of any criminal investigation into
World Patent Marketing Inc.

I suppose you're right Tom, you can replace the top cop in the land with anybody as long as he is a loyal sycophant.

He is an acting AG. If Trump elects to appoint him then he will have to go through the Senate confirmation process. I'm sure the Dems have their bag of Bork/Kavanaugh tricks up their sleeves for that contingency .

Late Night Funny #2

Believe it or not, the company (Matthew Whitaker) was promoting turned out to be a scam and was forced to pay millions of dollars in damages after being shut down by the F.T.C. But ‘only the best people.’We’ve got a Jacuzzi salesman as attorney general. He should ‘jacuz’ himself from the Mueller probe.

Jimmy Kimmel

HAR HAR!

Tal things are what they are, Mueller hasn't indicted anyone recently, want to know why? It's because his investigation has run out of whatever it needs to proceed. Evidence is thin on the ground, but maybe he should investigate why Putin gave Donald a thumps up the other day, got to be evidence of something, or maybe he could investigate why Marcon gave Donald a crushing handshake, evidence of something there. Wait, closer to home, why was Putin standing next to the Aussie head of state, now there is real evidence Putin is influencing US allies and with elections coming up we can expect he will do something

Your sarcasm font was missing but I hear you! Don't buy any Russian planes though even if Putin promises you free tours to the White House. Mueller will be back in the news once all the election ballots are counted and the voting fraud court cases are over.

yeah it will take time to count all the ballots from people who could not prove they were eligible to vote.

here is some poetic justice...…

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-46217085

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Originally Posted by talaniman

Your sarcasm font was missing but I hear you! Don't buy any Russian planes though even if Putin promises you free tours to the White House. Mueller will be back in the news once all the election ballots are counted and the voting fraud court cases are over.

More sarcasm, I fail to see the relevance of that, whether the Demorats have the House or not should not influence Meuller who after all, is non political

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Originally Posted by tomder55

yeah it will take time to count all the ballots from people who could not prove they were eligible to vote.

here is some poetic justice...…

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-46217085

Do you have to prove eligibility, what is the world coming too, with a 34% turnout you need those votes

I don't think politics or media influences Mueller at all, he just keeps his head down and mouth shut and lets everybody else speculate. However its an unspoken agreement to NOT do anything that may or may not influence and election so we have a lull in the action so to speak during the election season. That was the mistake of the FBI investigation of the Clinton emails during 2016 election cycle, but nobody even knew of the investigation into the Dufus at the time. Maybe it would have made no difference at the time but PERCEPTION is everything in politics here.

To weigh in on the eligibility of voters here though, there is a lot more voter suppression than fraud by a huge amount. Repubs use eligibility rules to justify purges of the roles and Jim Crow tactics to intimidate and discourage voters from casting ballots. However when a judge, and law enforcement can see no evidence of ANY fraud then you can easily see that those that holler fraud are LYING and distracting you from the real issue of lawfully counting all the votes.

Repubs had to see the day coming that voters would catch on to the tricks they pull to influence an election, and the dufus and his sycophants fattening his base up didn't help at all. LOL, the minute the dufus stops his regular feeding of the sycophants, they will turn on him like animals, and devour him and repubs.

Just ask JL why he is still holding his nose two years after the dufus won.

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Just ask JL why he is still holding his nose two years after the dufus won.

Putting this on context you think Trump's win was rigged. It was the only game in town for Republicans and they voted for him, Hilliary, of course, thought she was cheated even though Trump had a massive electoral college advantage. What you need is some electoral reform and it all taken out of the hands of local officials