If Zero wants to keep blathering about something that several of your Dems don't want to deal with again on an issue that 96 percent of the country thinks ain't so important, go for it.Quote:
Originally Posted by talaniman
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If Zero wants to keep blathering about something that several of your Dems don't want to deal with again on an issue that 96 percent of the country thinks ain't so important, go for it.Quote:
Originally Posted by talaniman
Think I'm kidding... anyone that wants to suspend the bill of rights... deserves getting shot.Quote:
Originally Posted by excon
Hello again, smoothy:
I'm a supporter of the Bill of Rights.. If someone wants to suspend them, I'm right WITH you...Quote:
Think I'm kidding... anyone that wants to suspend the bill of rights... deserves getting shot.
However, a background check that would stop a person like ME from getting guns, is NOT a suspension of the Bill of Rights.. I don't care WHAT your latest email says.
Actually, NOT doing that is VERY, VERY criminal friendly.. I didn't know you cared so much for FELONS.
Excon
Except that isn't what its all about. Its all about a backdoor gun registry, the only reason for a gun registry is so they know who has what so their jackbooted thugs can start taking them by force.Quote:
Originally Posted by excon
Hello again, smoothy:
That IS what the emails are telling you, isn't it? It's just not so.Quote:
Its all about a backdoor gun registry,
Politifact says,Quote:
An email circulated to Arizona residents claims a bill before the Senate "is proposing the universal registration of all firearms and their owners." The bill expands background checks to most gun transfers. But federal rules forbid the government from keeping a record of successful background checks for more than a day. The ACLU argues it's possible the bill creates a new type of record for some sales that may not be subject to the ban, but that's not the same thing as "universal registration of all firearms and their owners." We rate the claim False.
Excon
There is also this --
snopes.com: Handgun Safety and Registration Act
Yeah, I know you guys hate snopes.
No it doesn't explicitly create a universal gun registry but even the ACLU guy acknowledges a loophole that leaves the door open.
"I don't think it's a crazy idea to say that if the records exist, there would be a push to use them for other things," Calabrese said.
I find a lot more truth to that than your "war on women."
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Originally Posted by Wondergirl
That was something from 4 years ago. A little late now.
Refer to excon's post.Quote:
Originally Posted by cdad
(I'm in a state of emergency with news helicopters swarming over my house, so forgive my lack of timeliness.)
For 4 years they've been swarming over your house?Quote:
Originally Posted by Wondergirl
Hello again,
If the background check that failed is SOOO dangerous, why isn't the CURRENT background check? You probably went through it yourself. If ONE is tyranny, why isn't the other?
excon
So we already have background checks, got it.
As you pointed out in what you posted earlier. As of right now the records aren't collected by the federal government and must be destroyed. In that bill discussed in the article it opens a new door that may allow it to be kept.Quote:
Originally Posted by excon
Now before you start ranting on paranoia Im going to say this. 3 times I watched as a government entity was given certain powers and then took those to a whole different level. 2 of them are still in affect and one was stricken down by the high courts.
So now we stand at a nationwide junction. We need to tread lightly and make sure we cover the bases to get anything passed. All they really need to do is put in the simplist language and it would be over. But nah those politicians need a job and so do all their lawyer friends. So its not going to happen the easy way.
Legislate in haste, repent at leisure...
Not for private sales at gun shows.Quote:
Originally Posted by speechlesstx
No, we're in a horrible flood situation.Quote:
Originally Posted by speechlesstx
You do know that the "gun show loophole" is a total myth right?Quote:
Originally Posted by Wondergirl
It doesn't exist except in the minds of politicians trying to appease others.
You lefties are real simpletons if you think we are dumb enough to believe your crap its not a back door anything... because YOUR lefty buddies have already said this is their goal.Quote:
Originally Posted by excon
And its been how your communist buddies have operated for decades. In fact it's a tactic Sol Alinsky has in his rules for radicals.
You may not have long enough memories to remember it... but the rest of us do.
You mean not for private sales.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wondergirl
How come you never posted on the AMHD gun board ?Quote:
Originally Posted by speechlesstx
Firearms - Ask Me Help Desk
I don't know, guess I need to get out more.Quote:
Originally Posted by cdad
What if the FFL is not on the up, and up or can slither through the loopholes? Why would you leave a straw man with that same ability? What's to stop a citizen with no record from getting a gun at a gun show, and selling it to a felon?
Documents: Woman who sold Evan Ebel gun should've known he was felon - The Denver Post
Obviously they are inadequate and the criminals have figured out how to get around them. Why don't you want to close that loophole they drive a tank through?Quote:
So we already have background checks, got it.
You can't stop people from acting illegally all you can do is catch them hopefully before they kill or maim someone
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Originally Posted by talaniman
Even with the back ground check they can still sell the gun. It is already a crime to do so. From the article :
Vigil has been charged with unlawful purchase of a firearm, a Class 4 felony.
So how is the back ground check going to help? This is a clear case of someone knowingly aiding and abedding. Nothing will stop that.
As she has been charged with a felony if she is convicted she won't be doing it again ;)
The bombing suspects obviously aren't home grown right-wingers. Maybe this thing is about over though, pray for no more mayhem.
1 Boston Marathon bombing suspect dead, another on the run, authorities say | Fox News
What leads you to believe that?Quote:
The bombing suspects obviously aren't home grown right-wingers.
Well the fact of their names and the fact they immigrated here year ago... is a pretty good indication.Quote:
Originally Posted by NeedKarma
Its all over the news..
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...police-name-o/
I've read a lot of reports, none of them mention their political leanings or motivations. And you can't go by names since the US is a melting pot.
Did you bother reading the story... they weren't born here... they weren't citizerns here... and they most certainly weren't White men much less Right wingers.Quote:
Originally Posted by NeedKarma
Their pictures are enough proof of that. They were Islamic Terrorists... and even the left wing media are reporting that.
They look white to me. You need to adjust the controls on your monitor LOL.Quote:
they most certainly weren't White men
What, is anyone that's not black white to you? They are mose clearly not caucausion from those photos... they would fit right in many middle eastern countries with their features and skin coloring. And middle eastern people aren't white.Quote:
Originally Posted by NeedKarma
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Originally Posted by smoothy
Caucasian characteristics don't necessary imply a particular type of skin colour.
Being dark skinned doesn't make someone black then either.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tuttyd
I keep forgetting your quest for the purity of the white race.Quote:
They are mose clearly not caucausion
Off your meds again? You are the one here preaching for baby murder...Quote:
Originally Posted by NeedKarma
Yes, murder all the babies!! LOLQuote:
You are the one here preaching for baby murder...
Abortion is baby murder... pure and simple... I bet you are anti-capital punishment too which is pure hypocrisy... murder the undborn babies who harmed no one.. but preach about the right to life for murderers and rapists.Quote:
Originally Posted by NeedKarma
They are Chechen ,almost definitely Muslim. . As you are aware ,jihadistan has recruited them for years .
Basically this is correct. Skin tone is not always a good indicator.Quote:
Originally Posted by smoothy
Tut
smoothy,
You're posting in the wrong thread. :D
Got to go, daughter and I are road-tripping to a competition. Have fun!
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