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  • Aug 25, 2010, 11:02 AM
    smoothy

    This speaks volumes...

    YouTube - SALT IN THE WOUND written by Rita W. Jones
  • Aug 25, 2010, 11:04 AM
    smoothy
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    But if it was a terrorist sympathizer should Fox be banned from broadcasting in the US?

    Didn't stop Obama... look at the list of Terrorist Buddies he had, you do remember the Weather Underground.

    Or the tax Cheats he appopinted to positions in the government. Even though Tax evasion is a Fellony.
  • Aug 25, 2010, 11:05 AM
    NeedKarma
    Well so much for answering a simple question. :rolleyes:
  • Aug 25, 2010, 11:07 AM
    smoothy
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Wondergirl View Post
    Islam considers Ishmael as the ancestor of Arab people.

    Since when?

    SInce always... you do remember the Dutch person assassinated by Muslim terrorists for drawing a cartoon about Mohammed.

    You do remember the tjhreats against a Child who did a drawing of Mohammed. You do remember Salamon Rushdi? He's still in hiding, and there is still death threats against him.


    Proof of what a Peaceful religion Islam is when they put out assassination orders for anyone who draws mohammed or writes a book critical of their actions.
  • Aug 25, 2010, 11:08 AM
    Synnen
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Wondergirl View Post
    If the Muslim-American schoolchildren pray Christian prayers along with the Christian-American schoolchildren, will the Christian-American pray Muslim prayers along with the Muslim-American schoolchildren?

    And will they ALL pray along with the Pagan-American schoolchildren and Jewish schoolchildren and atheist schoolchildren and Pastafarian schoolchildren and Buddhist schoolchildren and Taoist schoolchildren and Hindu Schoolchildren and Chinese traditionalist schoolchildren and African traditional schoolchildren and Scientologist schoolchildren---just to name a few?

    I've always said I had NO problem with prayer in school--as long as they offer a prayer to EVERY religion out there. That means that if they're going to clump all pagan sects together and all Muslim sects together, they have to clump all Christian sects together. Which means that the Jehovah's Witnesses have as much a chance on the day for Christians as the Catholics and Lutherans do.

    I think I figured it out one time. If you take the top 20 world ranked religions only (which will cause discord of its own, and you know it), the Christians would get to pray to THEIR god once a month in school, and to someone else's god 19 times.

    You okay with that, Smoothy? Prayer in school means ALL prayer in school--not just "majority" prayer in school.
  • Aug 25, 2010, 11:09 AM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Wondergirl View Post
    Naw. I think President Bush had said something about a mission accomplished. He was on a boat or something when he said it.

    On Larry King Live last night, Vice President Joe Biden said Iraq "could be one of the great achievements of this administration."

    Of course that's because of the surge and the course Bush took against Biden and Obama's judgment.
  • Aug 25, 2010, 11:10 AM
    smoothy
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    Well so much for answering a simple question. :rolleyes:

    Obama was supported with Funds from the middle east funneled through people without the ability to give that much... Will he step down?

    After all, he's bankrupting the USA to make good on his promises to his overseas Muslim contributors, like he did to the Wall Street companies that gave him millions... except for Merril Lynch who gave more to republicans than him, and we all know which one was refused a bailout (heres a hint... it Was Merril Lynch ALONE that was refused assistance).
  • Aug 25, 2010, 11:12 AM
    Synnen
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by smoothy View Post
    Islam isn't based on Ishmael....they Worship Mohammed as their Messiah. Mohammed wasn't born until the 7th centuay AD.

    Thats the same as Saying Christianity wasn't based on Jesus Christ.


    As far as ownership...

    existing legal precident holds in that case...... example - They are STILL finding and returning artwork that was stolen from Jews under the Nazi's. Usually to heirs of the victims.

    Doesn't matter who paid for it or how much,....stolen is stolen.

    Explain it to the cops if the deal you got on Craigs list was too good to pass up. Cops come after it....guess who gets to keep it....(Hint, it won't be you).


    So... you hate a religion you don't really understand. Check!

    Well, since your home was on land that is KNOWN to have been stolen from native Americans--you're going to give it back, right? Do the right thing, and all that?

    You totally dodged my question by trying to re-direct it to the government getting to confiscate anything ill-gotten. Well, what if it's a government that got it in an immoral way? Does that mean we ALL go back to being Roman?
  • Aug 25, 2010, 11:23 AM
    NeedKarma
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    On Larry King Live last night, Vice President Joe Biden said Iraq "could be one of the great achievements of this administration."

    Because his very next line is: "You're going to see 90,000 American troops come marching home by the end of the summer. "
    I think you missed his meaning there.
  • Aug 25, 2010, 11:31 AM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    Because his very next line is: "You're going to see 90,000 American troops come marching home by the end of the summer. "
    I think you missed his meaning there.

    Uh, no, I didn't, the quote in context doesn't change the fact that he's taking credit the administration doesn't deserve, and that in fact the success would be in spite of his plans to divide the country and Obama's opposition to the effort.

    Quote:

    I am very optimistic about -- about Iraq. I mean, this could be one of the great achievements of this administration. You're going to see 90,000 American troops come marching home by the end of the summer. You're going to see a stable government in Iraq that is actually moving toward a representative government.

    I spent -- I've been there 17 times now. I go about every two months -- three months. I know every one of the major players in all the segments of that society. It's impressed me. I've been impressed how they have been deciding to use the political process rather than guns to settle their differences.
  • Aug 25, 2010, 11:39 AM
    tomder55
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Wondergirl View Post
    Burlington Coat Factory is still in there? According to a number of Internet sites, "Until its 2009 purchase the building lay abandoned."

    Where did the word "victory" come from?

    WG you are good with the semantics games.It was unoccupied... not abandoned . Abandoned implies abandoned by the ownership. That never happened . The owner attempted to sell it until 2009 when the owner ;forced to drastically reduce the price due to the damage from the attack, ended up selling it to someone the owner thought was going to turn the building into a condo complex.

    Ironic that a building damaged in a terrorist attack will be turned into a Victory mosque by someone who praises the Iranian terrorist regime; and the principle of Vilayet-i-faqih, which means the rule of sharia jurisprudent as practiced by the regime of clerics in the Council of Guardians.
  • Aug 25, 2010, 11:44 AM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by smoothy View Post
    Didn't stop Obama... look at the list of Terrorist Buddies he had, you do remember the Weather Underground.

    He knows Ayers as well as I do.
    Quote:

    Or the tax Cheats he appopinted to positions in the government.
    Name three.
  • Aug 25, 2010, 11:45 AM
    NeedKarma
    Well here's my take: if Fox News, being the terrorist sympathizers that they are, are allowed to broadcast in the US AND have an office near Ground Zero then anyone else who fits that bill should have a free pass as well.
  • Aug 25, 2010, 11:50 AM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    WG you are good with the semantics games.

    You too, Tommy, by sticking "victory" into the sentence. Those little semantic tidbits really help the cause, don't they.
  • Aug 25, 2010, 11:59 AM
    smoothy
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    Well here's my take: if Fox News, being the terrorist sympathizers that they are, are allowed to broadcast in the US AND have an office near Ground Zero then anyone else who fits that bill should have a free pass as well.

    Tell you what... being its no secret Obama was great friends with a Convicted Terrorist... William Ayers of the Terrorist group The Weather Underground... lets see the Democrat party show a good faith effort and Immediately Remove him from office. Not next week, now.

    You really need to look up the word sympathizer... you clearly can not grasp what it means. Because YOU are one... CNN, ABC, CBS, NBC, MSNBC, NPR, Mayor Bloomberg, The New York Times and the Washington Post are as Well as most leading Democrats. ALL are Terrorist Sympathizers... and guilty of aiding and abeting crimes... THey even fall under the RICO act because they as a group consipre to commit crimes every day. ANd just one of those crimes is aiding and abetting immigration fraud.

    When Democrats answer to THAT, then they might actually have a little credibility, as it stands the entire party is full of blow hards.
  • Aug 25, 2010, 12:01 PM
    smoothy
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    Well here's my take: if Fox News, being the terrorist sympathizers that they are, are allowed to broadcast in the US AND have an office near Ground Zero then anyone else who fits that bill should have a free pass as well.

    What a total and complete crock of sh1t.
  • Aug 25, 2010, 12:02 PM
    NeedKarma
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by smoothy View Post
    You really need to look up the word sympathizer...you clearly can not grasp what it means. Because YOU are one

    You're funny... in a sad kind of way.
  • Aug 25, 2010, 12:15 PM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    Fox News, being the terrorist sympathizers that they are

    By what standard do you reach that conclusion?
  • Aug 25, 2010, 12:23 PM
    smoothy

    They believe anything Obama tells them to believe..

    Does Obama have a clue as to the difference between truth and falsification?



    Now Barack's father served in WW II

    It must be true as Barack said it in a speech!

    Is he a compulsive liar? Were there no reporters who double checked these statements and called the party on this?

    They did for everyone else. Why not him?

    Barack Hussein Obama Sr. (Obama's father)

    Born 4/4/36

    Died 11/24/82 at the age of 46

    He was 5 years old when WW 2 started, and less than 9.5 years old when it ended.

    Lolo Soetoro (Obama's step father)

    Born 1935

    Died 3/2/87 at the age of 52

    He was 6 years old when WW 2 started, and 10 years old when it ended.

    One of these guys must have been the youngest Veteran in the war.



    Watch the video. YouTube - Obama says his father served in World War II



    And the media doesn't say anything.


    And the left STILL believes anything that comes out of Obamas mouth.
  • Aug 25, 2010, 12:34 PM
    smoothy
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    You're funny...in a sad kind of way.

    CBS news knows where Osama Bin Laden is hiding... Obama told them, they are sympathizers too.
  • Aug 25, 2010, 12:46 PM
    excon
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    By what standard do you reach that conclusion?

    Hello again, Steve:

    By THIS standard. The connection is clear. FOX is partly owned by a Muslim Terrorist. You know that because it was reported on FOX NEWS. Watch it, if you dare.

    excon
  • Aug 25, 2010, 12:55 PM
    NeedKarma
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by smoothy View Post
    CBS news knows where Osama Bin Laden is hiding.....Obama told them, they are sympathizers too.

    Well you certainly are representative of the conservatives in your country.
  • Aug 25, 2010, 12:56 PM
    smoothy
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by excon View Post
    Hello again, Steve:

    By THIS standard. The connection is clear. FOX is partly owned by a Muslim Terrorist. You know that because it was reported on FOX NEWS. Watch it, if you dare.

    excon

    Really... so are All of the Lefty Media outlets... gonna shut those down too? How about wall street... terrorists own stock in much of that too.

    Obama is funneling money from the Poppy Fields through liberal action funds... after all, there never was a complete accounting of all the money he got.


    THere is one HELL of a lot of difference between someone owning stock in something... and a business violating currency transfer laws to launder money.


    Also unlike Obama (William Ayers)... Terrorists weren't visiting at FOX's house repeatedly.
  • Aug 25, 2010, 01:15 PM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by excon View Post
    Hello again, Steve:

    By THIS standard. The connection is clear. FOX is partly owned by a Muslim Terrorist. You know that because it was reported on FOX NEWS. Watch it, if you dare.

    Thanks ex, I had read the article on Huffpo prior to your post so I've already dared. Here is where the story broke. Quite ironic I'd say and I'll be waiting for Fox and/or Murdoch to respond before adding anything else.
  • Aug 25, 2010, 01:30 PM
    NeedKarma
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    Here is where the story broke.

    Actually Stewart broke the story, they reference it in the Yahoo article.
  • Aug 25, 2010, 01:45 PM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by smoothy View Post
    It must be true as Barack said it in a speech!

    Anybody with a brain and the rudiments of basic math would realize he meant his grandfather. I'm old enough that President Obama could be my son, and some of my high school classmates served in Vietnam. My uncle, who was 25 years older than I, served in WWII.
  • Aug 25, 2010, 01:57 PM
    Synnen

    If we're going with what presidents say is true, and worth more than what they mean then Kennedy was a jelly donut.

    Please.
  • Aug 25, 2010, 02:11 PM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    Actually Stewart broke the story, they reference it in the Yahoo article.

    Excuse me, I was going by what Politico said: "Yahoo!’s John Cook had turned up the funding tie last week."
  • Aug 25, 2010, 02:14 PM
    smearcase

    You always have to assume that Obama misspoke. He seems to have a problem but only with facts.
    "My muslim faith"
    "all 57 states"
    " in paying tribute to 'fallen heroes' on this past Memorial Day [2008], he stated that he saw several of them sitting in the audience. Apparently his handlers didn't tell him "fallen heroes" means dead."
    I know about Bush's "fool me once" and "gynecologists' etc but Bush just wanted to give control of American ports to Dubai and the mosque idea is just as good and will have the same success.
  • Aug 25, 2010, 02:53 PM
    tomder55

    I understand that Rudy turned down some funding Alwaleed bin Talal offered because of comments he made after 9-11. Can anyone provide any other evidence that he is a terrorist or is a supporter of terrorism ?

    From everything I've read he is pretty much a Westernized Saudi pampered rich playboy.
  • Aug 25, 2010, 02:53 PM
    speechlesstx
    Cenk Uygur over at Huffpo, (while wildly taking Glenn Beck out of context) tells us, "The Park51 Project is actually trying to heal wounds, spread a moderate form of Islam."

    That should make everyone feel much, much better now. Swap "Southern Baptist Convention" for "Park51 Project" and "moderate form of Christianity" for "moderate form of Islam" and tell me you're just as on board as you are now.
  • Aug 25, 2010, 03:09 PM
    tomder55

    This is hilarious . We have been told we were intolerant anti-Constitutionists because we dared to suggest that the sources of the funding for the project should be investigated.

    Now here we have the same people giving kudos to
    Jon Stewart's investigative team for doing the very same thing.
    Jon Stewart must be an intolerant anti-Constitutionalist then.
  • Aug 25, 2010, 03:23 PM
    excon
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    Can anyone provide any other evidence that he is a terrorist or is a supporter of terrorism ? From everything I've read he is pretty much a Westernized Saudi pampered rich playboy.

    Hello again, tom:

    Not really. I was just going by what FOX NEWS reported on their very own FOX NEWS PROGRAM. They're the fair and balanced people aren't they? So, they reported, and I decided.

    excon

    PS> In case you missed the punch line here, nobody really thinks Al-Waleed bin Talal is a terrorist. It's that FOX NEWS, the driving force behind the protest, can find a terrorist hiding behind ANY Muslim, even if that Muslim happens to be their BOSS..

    Bwa, ha ha ha ha.
  • Aug 25, 2010, 03:31 PM
    tomder55

    Fox is the driving force ? And here I thought it was some hate filled crazed blogger named Pam Geller at 'Atlas Shrugs' who is the driving force... at least that's what Huffpo is telling their sheep.
  • Aug 25, 2010, 03:40 PM
    excon

    Hello tom:

    I'm not responsible for what Huffpo posts, just like you're not responsible for what smoothy posts. WITHOUT FOX having picked it up, and made it their own, Pam Geller couldn't be the driving force behind a yellow cab. That's what I'm telling MY sheep.

    You DO know, do you not, that BEFORE FOX decided to make it THEIR cause, Laura Ingraham, reported on the FOX NEWS television network, that "she LIKED" what the Imam was doing by building his mosque?

    excon
  • Aug 25, 2010, 06:36 PM
    speechlesstx

    Give us Ingraham's quote, ex.
  • Aug 25, 2010, 06:47 PM
    excon

    Hello again, Steve:

    Couldn't find it. I saw it, though. She was FRIENDLY with the Imam and ended the conversation with "I like what you're trying to do", or words to that effect.

    excon
  • Aug 26, 2010, 03:29 AM
    smearcase

    The unofficial results* are in for this question:

    For/Leaning For the mosque: 26%

    Against or Leaning Against the mosque: 68%

    Undecided: 6%

    CBS says 71% against, 22% for and 11% (?) don't know (and can't add either)

    I am aware that some say votes can't determine rights---the founders flipped coins I guess.

    *Based on first comment from each responder. Didn't check to see how many changed their minds.
  • Aug 26, 2010, 05:45 AM
    classyT
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    Give us Ingraham's quote, ex.

    This needs to be watched and put into context... I believe Ingrahm made the comments on December 21, 2009. Ms. Kahn was explaining they were trying to improve relationships between Muslims and Christians. Laura said something to the effect she was for a center that would do such a thing and she liked what Ms. Kahn was doing as far as trying to improve relationship. I can also post what Laura said concerning this very interview with to Ms. Kahn... she clarified her statements.

    She also invited Ms. Kahn on the Factor this week ( she has been filling in for O'Reilly... but the woman declined the invite.)

    YouTube - New Islamic Mosque at Ground Zero? (12.21.09)
  • Aug 26, 2010, 06:00 AM
    smoothy
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Wondergirl View Post
    Anybody with a brain and the rudiments of basic math would realize he meant his grandfather. I'm old enough that President Obama could be my son, and some of my high school classmates served in Vietnam. My uncle, who was 25 years older than I, served in WWII.

    But... the lefties LOve Obama... isn't he the smartest man to ever walk the earth... the lefties called him the Smartest president we have ever had...


    Mind you, nobody has actually seen his grades anyplace to prove it... he sued to hide them from everyone because he has something to hide... because he is NOT proud of his grades. (and his actions have proved the total opposite, he doesn't even grasp economics 101).


    After all... Bush was held to every word that came out of his mouth, Literally... then the Smartest man to ever grace the Whitehouse (Democrats unsubstantiated claim) WILL be held to the very same standard.


    You can't Hold Bush to one standard... then totally ignore it when Obama puts his foot in his mouth. Not if you want any resemblance of credibility.

    Anyone with a BRAIN knows that...

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