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  • Jun 12, 2020, 06:03 PM
    talaniman
    Art resembling life? When you can't get Batman, you let the locals handle the mess.

    https://www.latimes.com/world-nation...utonomous-zone

    This is a bigger scandal brewing in my opinion.

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...?ocid=msedgntp
  • Jun 12, 2020, 06:11 PM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    the very first thing they did was to set up border walls to control who enters their territory

    They were copying Trump with his black fence around the WH.
  • Jun 12, 2020, 06:47 PM
    jlisenbe
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    @JL, whose holding you or anyone else responsible for the past? What's does that have to do with acknowledging the cruelty and atrocities and making redress for it?
    You do realize that your second point negates your first point?
  • Jun 12, 2020, 08:24 PM
    talaniman
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    Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    You do realize that your second point negates your first point?

    Only if you take it personally or fail to acknowledge the past and accept that's what happened. Let me chain, shackle, and beat you, for a few hundred years while destroying your language and culture, selling your kids and raping your women, and lynching and castrating the men and adding segregation and discriminitory patterns and practices and see how you turn out after 400 years of abuse, cruelty, and atrocities.
  • Jun 13, 2020, 02:40 AM
    tomder55
    Quote:

    Art resembling life?
    or life resembling art . In this case Bane promising the city will survive while his secret agenda is to blow the whole thing up is very fitting .

    As far as the bailout goes . Tossing billions of dollars here there and everywhere ;your bound to see inefficiencies ,fraud and corruption . Congress hastily passed a secret funding bill that no one got a chance to read ,that no one wanted the read . All they really wanted to say is 'we did something ' and waive a bunch of monopoly money around . (there is art to imitate in this one too) . Then they act surprised when some of the money ends up in hands they did not intend it to go . duh

    Here is the art ;also from a Batman movie .
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fqey_c0SulI
  • Jun 13, 2020, 03:55 AM
    tomder55
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    https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/custom...quote_icon.png Originally Posted by tomder55 https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/custom...post-right.png
    the very first thing they did was to set up border walls to control who enters their territory



    They were copying Trump with his black fence around the WH.
    perhaps ;but their actions is a complete contradiction of their desire for open borders .
  • Jun 13, 2020, 04:55 AM
    jlisenbe
    Quote:

    Only if you take it personally or fail to acknowledge the past and accept that's what happened. Let me chain, shackle, and beat you, for a few hundred years while destroying your language and culture, selling your kids and raping your women, and lynching and castrating the men and adding segregation and discriminitory patterns and practices and see how you turn out after 400 years of abuse, cruelty, and atrocities.
    And then set up a welfare program for fifty years that enslaves the descendants of those people to government handouts to the tune of several trillion dollars over the years, and accomplished what two centuries of slavery could not do: the destruction of the black family.
  • Jun 13, 2020, 08:51 AM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    And then set up a welfare program for fifty years that enslaves the descendants of those people to government handouts to the tune of several trillion dollars over the years, and accomplished what two centuries of slavery could not do: the destruction of the black family.

    So what should have been done instead?

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    Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    perhaps ;but their actions is a complete contradiction of their desire for open borders .

    How well is that fence working for Trump, that is, how willing are people to vote for someone who hides when the going gets tough?
  • Jun 13, 2020, 09:02 AM
    talaniman
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    or life resembling art . In this case Bane promising the city will survive while his secret agenda is to blow the whole thing up is very fitting .

    As far as the bailout goes . Tossing billions of dollars here there and everywhere ;your bound to see inefficiencies ,fraud and corruption . Congress hastily passed a secret funding bill that no one got a chance to read ,that no one wanted the read . All they really wanted to say is 'we did something ' and waive a bunch of monopoly money around . (there is art to imitate in this one too) . Then they act surprised when some of the money ends up in hands they did not intend it to go . duh

    Here is the art ;also from a Batman movie .
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fqey_c0SulI

    I actually agree but substitute bane with the dufus MAGA cry, and no excuse for Mnuchin keeping the money list secret, or the disaster in Georgia voting day.

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    And then set up a welfare program for fifty years that enslaves the descendants of those people to government handouts to the tune of several trillion dollars over the years, and accomplished what two centuries of slavery could not do: the destruction of the black family.

    More fake news exaggerated for ideological affect. You know nothing of the black family or how it has survived through cruelty and atrocities that you seek to ignore.
  • Jun 13, 2020, 09:23 AM
    jlisenbe
    Quote:

    You know nothing of the black family or how it has survived through cruelty and atrocities that you seek to ignore.
    Know nothing?

    1. The out of wedlock birth rate is 74% for black Americans.
    2. A black American is six times more likely to be murdered than a white American, and nearly always by another black American. In nearly half of those murders, no suspect is ever identified.
    3. Black students score considerably lower on standardized tests than do white students. That has been true for decades.
    4. Black men, primarily young black men, commit nearly half of the murders in our country.
    5. Among college students, the six-year graduation rate for black male students attending public colleges and universities was 35 percent, compared with 46 percent for Latino and 59 percent for white male students.

    No, my friend. I know more than you think. The difference is that I'm not willing to just blow it off and say, "Who cares?" I do care, and I think we should do something about it.

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    So what should have been done instead?
    We should have made great efforts to have color-blind laws and opportunities. We should have given no money at all to people who are mentally and physically healthy. We should make heroes of people who overcome difficulty. We should honor family and education. We should have kept the Ten Commandments on the walls of every public school and talked about them frequently with reverence.
  • Jun 13, 2020, 10:02 AM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    We should have made great efforts to have color-blind laws and opportunities. We should have given no money at all to people who are mentally and physically healthy. We should make heroes of people who overcome difficulty. We should honor family and education.

    So let's start now. Certainly Trump will agree. *gag*
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    We should have kept the Ten Commandments on the walls of every public school and talked about them frequently with reverence.
    Absolutely not!
  • Jun 13, 2020, 10:03 AM
    tomder55
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    I actually agree but substitute bane with the dufus MAGA cry, and no excuse for Mnuchin keeping the money list secret, or the disaster in Georgia voting day.
    Pennsylvania is still counting those silly mail in ballots more than 2 weeks after the primary ballot where the outcome was already decided. Georgia Dems and national Dems are howling about voter suppression in their primary . Both could be key swing states in November .It is critical that both states have a clear outcome on election night . If recent elections is any indicator it will be lawsuit after lawsuit, charge after charge (whether any basis in fact exists), all whipped up by the media to get a show going, and the right candidate to win. The last few weeks may well have been a dress rehearsal .
  • Jun 13, 2020, 10:08 AM
    tomder55
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    How well is that fence working for Trump, that is, how willing are people to vote for someone who hides when the going gets tough?
    Biden has been in his basement for weeks ;only seen when they can wind him up ,strictly control his script ,and only until the meds they give him are working . Trump will be in Tulsa in a week . Already there are ticket requests for over 300,000 . As far Trump going to the WH bunker ;I believe the secret service gave him no choice .
  • Jun 13, 2020, 10:09 AM
    jlisenbe
    Quote:

    So let's start now.
    Well, I am surprised that you would agree to not giving money to those who are mentally and physically healthy. That's progress!!
  • Jun 13, 2020, 10:38 AM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    Well, I am surprised that you would agree to not giving money to those who are mentally and physically healthy. That's progress!!

    There are other, better ways to help them.
  • Jun 13, 2020, 11:14 AM
    jlisenbe
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    There are other, better ways to help them.
    We agree again. Just transferring money from one American to another who does nothing to earn it is a pretty bad idea.
  • Jun 13, 2020, 11:54 AM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    We agree again. Just transferring money from one American to another who does nothing to earn it is a pretty bad idea.

    And they can't drive on the roads my taxes have paid for. Ooops, they probably don't have cars. Okay, they can't take public transportation and ride on the streets my taxes have paid for. Ha!
  • Jun 13, 2020, 12:50 PM
    jlisenbe
    If they have a car, they pay gas taxes. If they live somewhere, they pay, either directly or indirectly, property taxes. That's what is primarily used for highways and bridges. Ha! But even if that was not the case, it is not a direct transfer of money. Lots and lots of difference.
  • Jun 13, 2020, 05:15 PM
    talaniman
    Differences without distinctions I might add. The whole notion of what you would or wouldn't do is moot since the law requires meeting certain criteria for most services, benefits, or assistance. Your state and local governments are authorized to administer those programs. not some group with no legal authority.

    Looks like you got outvoted in your state or location. You could organize a protest...against welfare, abortion, or black on black crime.
  • Jun 13, 2020, 06:51 PM
    paraclete
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Wondergirl View Post
    Quote:

    We should have kept the Ten Commandments on the walls of every public school and talked about them frequently with reverence

    .
    Absolutely not!

    what is your objection to displaying the ten commandments, do you have some silly idea that the words of God have no place in daily life?

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