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  • Aug 28, 2012, 07:48 AM
    tomder55
    Get used to it... photo ids are here to stay.
  • Aug 28, 2012, 07:49 AM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    get used to it ....photo ids are here to stay.

    For whom? Why? My state doesn't require one.
  • Aug 28, 2012, 08:13 AM
    talaniman
    He meant if you live in Republican controlled states. You know red ones that that are clamping down on early voting? Shutting down DMV's, and telling seniors that their bibles are not proper proof of their existence or their rights to vote, while purging the voter roles of alien sounding names like Gonzales.

    Those states.
  • Aug 28, 2012, 08:15 AM
    tomder55
    It's coming... the last attempt was defeated in March but there are about 8 other bills floating around your state legislature and Senate... it's just a matter of time. It's a matter of defending America's electoral integrity.
  • Aug 28, 2012, 08:21 AM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    it's a matter of defending America's electoral integrity.

    From what? Voting for the "wrong" candidate?

    Why doesn't the GOP work hard to get black and Latino votes? Where is the black convention speaker?
  • Aug 28, 2012, 08:24 AM
    tomder55
    Why the irrelevant questions ? Fact is that in States like Georgia and Indiana ,voter participation rose after the photo id laws were passed.
  • Aug 28, 2012, 08:42 AM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Wondergirl View Post
    From what? Voting for the "wrong" candidate?

    And the circle begins again. Any new objections that haven't been thoroughly debunked?

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    Why doesn't the GOP work hard to get black and Latino votes? Where is the black convention speaker?
    Who says they aren't? And what exactly does having a black convention speaker prove?
  • Aug 28, 2012, 08:44 AM
    Wondergirl
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    Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    And what exactly does having a black convention speaker prove?

    At least then there would be one black person at the convention.
  • Aug 28, 2012, 09:25 AM
    talaniman
    Quote:

    QUOTE by speechlesstx;
    And the circle begins again. Any new objections that haven't been thoroughly debunked?
    Debunked to YOUR satisfaction, but minorities disagree strongly. They will have their IDS, but you won't have their votes.

    I think gaining trust will take more than campaign ads.
  • Aug 28, 2012, 02:12 PM
    speechlesstx
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    At least then there would be one black person at the convention.

    As if it will be whiter than Obama's cabinet.
  • Aug 28, 2012, 02:19 PM
    speechlesstx
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    Originally Posted by talaniman View Post
    Debunked to YOUR satisfaction, but minorities disagree strongly. They will have their IDS, but you won't have their votes.

    And you won't the votes of felons, dead people and those voting in more than one state. I can live with that.

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    I think gaining trust will take more than campaign ads.
    And less of this:
  • Aug 28, 2012, 02:31 PM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    As if it will be whiter than Obama's cabinet.

    Lots of minorities represented in that gang.
  • Aug 28, 2012, 02:34 PM
    Wondergirl
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    Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    And you won't the votes of felons, dead people and those voting in more than one state. I can live with that.

    All 16 of them.
  • Aug 28, 2012, 02:46 PM
    talaniman
    A felon that's done his time should be given his rights back or what's the point of letting him out? To connect that with dead people voting and jumping from state to state is a real stretch and voter ID will NOT solve that problem. Those are problems for the registration process not the polls. And since when do we round up a bunch of folks to catch a very few?

    Come on into the real world why don't you. And while you are at it, tell Romney to stop lying about his welfare ads. Blatant racism!! You have to be blind or scared, or both not to see that.
  • Aug 28, 2012, 06:41 PM
    cdad
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    Originally Posted by talaniman View Post
    A felon thats done his time should be given his rights back or whats the point of letting him out?

    Oh come on. Your not even thinking here just spoutng off. DO you really believe that about a felon? What if it is a rapist or child molester ? Should they just serve their time and that's it? Or as it is today they has to register as an offender?

    There are already ways for felons to have their rights restored.
  • Aug 28, 2012, 07:06 PM
    excon
    Hello again,

    You know I can hear you...

    excon
  • Aug 28, 2012, 07:13 PM
    cdad
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by excon View Post
    Hello again,

    You know I can hear you...

    excon

    Lol. Have another beer and take your nap so you can skip a few answers ;)
  • Aug 28, 2012, 09:37 PM
    talaniman
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by califdadof3 View Post
    Oh come on. Your not even thinking here just spoutng off. DO you really believe that about a felon? What if it is a rapist or child molester ? Should they just serve thier time and thats it? Or as it is today they has to register as an offender?

    There are already ways for felons to have thier rights restored.

    What does that have to do with the right to vote after one has served time and paid his debt to society? If he has to register as a sex offender so what, that's but a condition of release for his offense. The guy with the four year term for possession should be given a chance at being a good citizen, right?
  • Aug 29, 2012, 06:28 AM
    speechlesstx
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    Originally Posted by Wondergirl View Post
    All 16 of them.

    I wonder how Al Franken got elected...

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    To date, 1099 felon votes have been identified, and 177 people have actually been convicted of voting illegally, with 66 more awaiting trial.
  • Aug 29, 2012, 06:50 AM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Wondergirl View Post
    Lots of minorities represented in that gang.

    Depends on your definition of "lots."

    As to you earlier question, minority speakers at the GOP convention include: South Carolina Gov. Nikki Haley, Ted Cruz, Marco Rubio, Condoleezza Rice, New Mexico Gov. Susana Martinez, GOP Puerto Rico National Committeewoman Zoraida Fonalledas, Nevada Gov. Brian Sandoval, Saratoga Springs Mayor Mia Love, Puerto Rico Gov. Luis Fortuņo and former Democratic Rep. Artur Davis.

    But I'm sure they aren't genuine minorities and can't match the stature of Sandra Fluke.

    P.S. MSNBC was so intent on convincing their 19 viewers that Republicans are just plain racist that they refused to show last night's minority speakers.

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    MSNBC wants you to think the Republican Party hates minorities. So much so that the liberal news network cut minority speeches from it's convention coverage.

    When popular Tea Party candidate Ted Cruz, the GOP nominee for Senate, took the stage, MSNBC cut away from the Republican National Convention and the Hispanic Republican from Texas' speech.

    MSNBC stayed on commercial through former Democratic Rep. Artur Davis' speech, as well. Davis, who recently became a Republican, is black.

    Then, when Puerto Rican Governor Luis Fortuno's wife Luce' Vela Fortuņo took the stage minutes later, MSNBC hosts Rachel Maddow and Chris Matthews opted to talk over the First Lady's speech.

    And Nevada Gov. Brian Sandoval? Noticeably missing from MSNBC, too.

    Mia Love, a black candidate for Congress in Utah, was also ignored by MSNBC.
    Got to pander to those 12 rabidly liberal viewers.

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