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  • Jan 27, 2020, 03:48 PM
    Vacuum7
    The Battleship Von Trump has survived dive bomb attacks, torpedo attacks, floating mines, magnetic mines, an array of various shore battery duels, and bimbo/porno star attacks to come to the point where the enemy is nearly spent of all offensive means against him!

    What a marvelous ship is the Battleship Von Trump!
  • Jan 27, 2020, 04:28 PM
    paraclete
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Vacuum7 View Post

    What a marvelous ship is the Battleship Von Trump!

    Yes, however, battleships are so last century
  • Jan 27, 2020, 05:40 PM
    talaniman
    It's not like the dude doesn't have plenty of sycophants circling around him to protect him.
  • Jan 27, 2020, 07:12 PM
    paraclete
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by talaniman View Post
    It's not like the dude doesn't have plenty of sycophants circling around him to protect him.

    yes lots of little destroyers depth charging those demonrats
  • Jan 27, 2020, 07:54 PM
    talaniman
    Never send a sycophant to do a mans job! The dufus will find that out as more of his dastardly deeds come to light. He's ben a lying cheating crooked bully all his life and what makes anyone think he has changed for the better?
  • Jan 27, 2020, 08:41 PM
    paraclete
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by talaniman View Post
    Never send a sycophant to do a mans job! The dufus will find that out as more of his dastardly deeds come to light. He's ben a lying cheating crooked bully all his life and what makes anyone think he has changed for the better?

    I'm sure none of us think that, or even think it is possible, however, given the available choices, who are you gonna call? Not Trumpbusters
  • Jan 28, 2020, 04:54 AM
    talaniman
    The right wing loony noise machine made it's Impeachment debut yesterday with the dufus defense dream tean presentation before the congress. No where on Earth could you find every talking point and conspiracy theory on full display going all the way back to the early days of the Obama era, with a special flashback of the Clinton Impeachment by Ken Starr that surely brought a tear to the right wing eyes of us oldsters. Folks, they didn't miss a trick, using the time tested blame Obama, and throw in Joe that had pundits aptly renaming this team the Confederacy of Dunces.

    How fitting for the circus clowns of the dufus show, as repubs scrambled to find a list of witnesses to call, because they realized that no way could they vote to acquit the dufus on the heels of this sorry performance by their greatest legal minds.
  • Jan 28, 2020, 05:35 AM
    jlisenbe
    Oh good grief. You act like you voted for Mr. Honesty and Ms. High Character, and now you are shocked to find that politicians tend to cut corners. Your two heartthrobs were every bit as prone to self-serving, career advancing moves as Trump is. This fake display of shock and horror gets old. He asked the Ukes to investigate an issue involving Biden. So? That whole deal smelled to the high heavens and probably needed investigating. If you have any evidence that Trump did anything out of the ordinary (worthy of impeachment) then bring it forward. Otherwise get about the business of trying to dump him in the proper way which is at the ballot box. This fake prosecution is way past over with. It plainly has nothing to do with justice and everything to do with trying to get some lame, pathetic dem pres candidate elected who could not possibly win otherwise.
  • Jan 28, 2020, 06:05 AM
    Vacuum7
    Talaniman: Not only will the Senate vote to acquit The POTUS but they won't even call witnesses. The left is far too giddy about all this crap.....Pelosi and Schiff are counting their chickens before they hatch: Nothing but nothing is going to come of it. Even big bad turncoat John "Walrus" NeoCon Bolton won't be able to save the left's bacon: In November '20, can you say "The Winner By Knockout, And Still President Of The United States Of America, Donald J. Trump".
  • Jan 28, 2020, 06:06 AM
    Athos
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by talaniman View Post
    The right wing loony noise machine made it's Impeachment debut yesterday with the dufus defense dream tean presentation before the congress. No where on Earth could you find every talking point and conspiracy theory on full display going all the way back to the early days of the Obama era, with a special flashback of the Clinton Impeachment by Ken Starr that surely brought a tear to the right wing eyes of us oldsters. Folks, they didn't miss a trick, using the time tested blame Obama, and throw in Joe that had pundits aptly renaming this team the Confederacy of Dunces.

    How fitting for the circus clowns of the dufus show, as repubs scrambled to find a list of witnesses to call, because they realized that no way could they vote to acquit the dufus on the heels of this sorry performance by their greatest legal minds.

    Starr was his usual prissy self and Dershowitz his now usual upside-down self. With Pam Bondi and the others, there was no rebuttal of the issues - just more Obama smashing. It never gets old for that crowd.

    Noteworthy was a complete absence (except a brief mention by Alan D) of the bombshell of Bolton describing the president admitting he held up the $391 million until Ukraine would announce an investigation of Biden. Is anybody still looking for an eyewitness? Amazingly, some Senate wag said a book recollection is not admissible. So it needs to be done in person. However, Trump is blocking witnesses from testifying. Catch 22!

    Then later, there was the fact that Trump was doing favors for the autocrats in Turkey and China. More from Bolton. Trump, naturally, has already shifted his tune re Bolton - now he's a liar!
  • Jan 28, 2020, 06:09 AM
    talaniman
    Guess you don't appreciate the humor or irony of my post this morning, given your favorite response to everything on the forum always goes back to Obama, and we know your fancy for those far right talking points and conspiracy theories. LOL, my friend I thought of you a lot yesterday as the Dunces droned on about your favorite subjects and the image of your utter entertainment and joy was searing my imagination.

    Knowing you were happy actually made me happy! Everyone deserves a good day and I thought yesterday would be yours. What more could you ask for with your coffee, donuts, and Dershowitz? Don't get no better than that with you righties does it? I heard the deal with repubs to call Bolton in exchange for Hunter Biden was going rather well, no?

    Nonetheless, I always thought people at least smiled when they were on a roll even if it was down hill. 8D Come on man! Don't cha wanna give us a grin this morning? Just let go of your nose and grab your cheeks and pull!
  • Jan 28, 2020, 06:15 AM
    jlisenbe
    My response did not go back to Obama. It goes back to you and the others on this board who so happily voted for him and HC and now want to act like Trump is a completely different cat from them. We all know that if every action of practically any pres was made public we would all likely be shocked, and that includes your esteemed (by you) Mr. Obama. I just wish you would stop all the theatrics and get a little bit honest. If all you have is Trump wanting the Ukes to investigate Biden, who needed investigating, then you have nothing.
  • Jan 28, 2020, 06:52 AM
    talaniman
    I am honest when I point out that going around the accepted processes for dealing with certain government issues is both foolish, dangerous and can lead you into big trouble and so far I have been right about that. That's why he is such a dufus.

    You want to investigate an American on foreign soil, you don't call their head official for a favor, you get your DOJ AG, Barr to open a formal inquiry with their government, and have your FBI data as evidence. You certainly don't have your private attorney poking around looking for the dirt you want to make your case. That looks personal, and it is.

    Like I said what a dufus, as how could his advisers not have told him about the right way to handle business? I mean good gosh why give your enemies the ammunition to impeach you when you do have the law on your side. As it stands he has done everything totally against the law and got himself impeached and rightfully so!

    He stepped over the line with both feet for no reason other than stupidity, and deserves to pay the full consequences of his actions like anyone else who disobeys the law. That's as honest as I can get.
  • Jan 28, 2020, 07:06 AM
    jlisenbe
    Quote:

    I am honest when I point out that going around the accepted processes for dealing with certain government issues is both foolish, dangerous and can lead you into big trouble and so far I have been right about that. That's why he is such a dufus.
    And you are dishonest when you pretend that HC and Obama did not do the same thing. As to the rest of your post, don't confuse speculation with fact. Why wouldn't Trump ask the Uke pres to investigate? Do you think he should have checked in with you first?

    Stepped over the line? You're dreaming.
  • Jan 28, 2020, 07:21 AM
    Vacuum7
    Demos REALLY, REALLY DON'T WANT OLD JOE AND YOUNG HUNTER UP ON THE STAND! Besides that, I don't think Uncle Joe has the guts to get up on the stand and get grilled. But I doubt, seriously, that ANY WITNESSES WILL BE CALLED AT ALL!
  • Jan 28, 2020, 08:56 AM
    talaniman
    LOL, repubs don't either, because they do have the votes to call them both to testify without the dems help.
  • Jan 28, 2020, 11:09 AM
    Vacuum7
    Like I said a while back, and I'm not too smart but it didn't take a lot of smarts to figure this out: This whole IMPEACHMENT play is going to cost the Demos EVERYTHING: The House, The Senate, and The Executive! We have a saying in the South that fits this mess: Don't piss in my ear and tell me its raining! That's exactly what the Demos have done with the Russia crap, the bimbo eruptions (all 20 of them), and now this Ukraine brain drain! The American People are sick of the B.S. and they are sick of being told HOW TO THINK AND WHAT TO THINK! You Demos are overbearing! Oh, I also believe that Repubs can and have done the same thing at one time or another, but you Demos have elevated it to an artform: PLEASE, STOP IT, FOR YOUR OWN SAKE!
  • Jan 28, 2020, 12:57 PM
    talaniman
    Really not trying to egg you on, but I do feel the same about repubs sometimes.
  • Jan 28, 2020, 01:30 PM
    Vacuum7
    Talaniman: Where is Tip O'Neal and Ronald Reagan when they could really help out? Following our Political Soap Opera is like a hamster running on a wheel: Its exhausting!
  • Jan 28, 2020, 01:48 PM
    talaniman
    Those guys are gone Vac...RIP, but you could change the channels when you need a break. That's what I do. Finding Bigfoot is a great break from the soaps.
  • Jan 29, 2020, 05:29 AM
    Vacuum7
    Talaniman: I may be shunned for what I am about to say....possibly even thought to be crazy...BUT, here it goes: Once I saw the infamous "Bluff Creek/Patty" film, my opinion about the potential of a bipedal running around the woods absolutely changed....after so many witnesses to this "creature", as well as pictures and film, they all cannot be loons....there is something out there which can't be explained.
  • Jan 29, 2020, 07:12 AM
    talaniman
    I watch all kinds of stuff and if they can catch giant gators and snakes in the woods and swamps no telling what else is out there and what has visited from someplace else. No your not crazy or strange in that regard.
  • Jan 29, 2020, 07:30 AM
    jlisenbe
    Vac, I do have some oceanfront property in Nevada I'd like to sell you.
  • Jan 29, 2020, 02:34 PM
    Vacuum7
    jlisenbe: How can you be so sure? One of the most credible/incredible filming of something in the woods like this was in a South Mississippi swamp.
  • Jan 29, 2020, 04:35 PM
    jlisenbe
    Vac, there might be something to it, but for those creatures to exist there would need to be some stable population of them. One solitary member of a species does not come into existence, live, and die. I just think they would have easily been found by now.
  • Jan 29, 2020, 04:56 PM
    paraclete
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    Vac, there might be something to it, but for those creatures to exist there would need to be some stable population of them. One solitary member of a species does not come into existence, live, and die. I just think they would have easily been found by now.

    Just some weirdo roaming the woods
  • Jan 29, 2020, 05:00 PM
    jlisenbe
    Quote:

    Just some weirdo roaming the woods
    That made me laugh! I can just picture it.
  • Jan 29, 2020, 06:17 PM
    Vacuum7
    Jlisenbe: Do not laugh: Trail game cams from some friends of mine in South Georgia have shown "some weirdo" roaming the woods....and I mean a wild looking, barely clothed man....darned scary. Guy will show up during the day and 1 to 6 AM, doesn't matter.
  • Jan 29, 2020, 08:20 PM
    paraclete
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Vacuum7 View Post
    Jlisenbe: Do not laugh: Trail game cams from some friends of mine in South Georgia have shown "some weirdo" roaming the woods....and I mean a wild looking, barely clothed man....darned scary. Guy will show up during the day and 1 to 6 AM, doesn't matter.

    Just some schitzo gone native
  • Jan 29, 2020, 08:24 PM
    jlisenbe
    Quote:

    Jlisenbe: Do not laugh: Trail game cams from some friends of mine in South Georgia have shown "some weirdo" roaming the woods....and I mean a wild looking, barely clothed man....darned scary. Guy will show up during the day and 1 to 6 AM, doesn't matter.
    Schiff?
  • Jan 29, 2020, 08:48 PM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Vacuum7 View Post
    Jlisenbe: Do not laugh: Trail game cams from some friends of mine in South Georgia have shown "some weirdo" roaming the woods....and I mean a wild looking, barely clothed man....darned scary. Guy will show up during the day and 1 to 6 AM, doesn't matter.

    Was it trying to untangle its golf cart and long red tie from the underbrush?
  • Jan 30, 2020, 05:40 AM
    talaniman
    They are constantly finding new stuff at the bottom of the oceans, new unseen species of animals and plants in the densest of jungles and rainforests, so the idea of a new or old previously unknown species of man is a possibility, but the fact that they are always looking is the important part and no matter the speculation, opinions, and theories, they keep finding stuff. They're digging in the dirt and finding the dwellings of old long dead settlements and civilizations and you can't help but be impressed when Swamp People snag those huge prehistoric gators, so I would say that it's not that easy to just pass off bigfoot as a loony in the woods, except the evidence says he's a lot bigger than the average human by a LOT. Yeah I watch all those TV programs plus the aliens too. A good diversion from the raucous din of cable news talking heads and politics.

    Speaking of which looks like slick Moscow Mitch and the repubs are looking to wrap this Impeachment thing up this weekend according to plan without any further ado, putting an end to this chapter in history to boot the dufus out. It was a long shot they've always had the votes, but that hardly means the campaign is over by any means as the ads will be coming fast and furious for the summer, and no doubt we will find out more dastardly stuff to throw in the mix. Of course you will just have to live with the victory lap the dufus takes over the dems which he will rub in at every chance he gets until election day, but we knew that already didn't we?

    Instead of letting this stuff drive you nuts though, keep plenty of batteries for the remote on hand and have a life you enjoy for yourself, as part of the survival kit for silly season. To put that in perspective folks, not only are the loonies loose, but people are running around dodging mother nature and disease, and I hope they take the time to vote, if it's allowed.
  • Jan 30, 2020, 08:49 AM
    Vacuum7
    Talaniman: They haven't, YET, prevented anyone from voting....guess a NATIONAL EMERGENCY could be called and a suspension of elections decreed....but that hasn't happened YET.....Do you still think Trump is THAT SCARY? With all of the crap going on in this world, its a whirling dervish! I might be looking at all this through eyes that don't connect to memories but, I SWEAR, I don't remember a time in my time where there was so much stuff happening so darned fast...keeping up with all of it is just not realistic.....and that's not Demo or Repub, its just that world seems like its about spin off its axis. Its obvious that DISORDER is in a war with ORDER: I can't really tell who is going to win.
  • Jan 30, 2020, 11:21 AM
    talaniman
    Look deeper Vac, voter suppression has been a concern for years in many states, but especially after the Shelby case was decided in SCOTUS. Even after repubs have admitted publicly that was their plan on a state level.

    Bottom line is it's never as simple as it seems.
  • Jan 30, 2020, 11:27 AM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Vacuum7 View Post
    Talaniman: They haven't, YET, prevented anyone from voting....

    Research gerrymandering. Also read upon what the government is doing on Indian reservations to squelch voting.
  • Jan 30, 2020, 11:52 AM
    jlisenbe
    Tal, your last link was nothing more than despicable, left-wing propaganda. As for gerrymandering, the dems have been more guilty of that over the years than anyone else. We are now to the ridiculous point that requiring ID to vote, which is the most obvious and proper thing in the world to do, is called racist tactics by people who don't care to do any real thinking on the subject. You have to show ID to buy tobacco products and alcohol, but not to vote? Really? Buying alcohol is more important than voting? It's an absolutely insane idea.
  • Jan 30, 2020, 12:02 PM
    Vacuum7
    jlisenbe: People DIE every year overseas trying to vote: How can asking for I.D. be deemed bad? It shouldn't offend anyone AS LONG AS EVERYONE IS REQUIRED THE SAME PRESENTATION: Honestly, if a Vote Poll Staffer was to let me pass without requesting I.D. and asked a person of some non-White ethnicity for their I.D., it would really piss me off!....that's not what we are trying to accomplish with Voter I.D.
  • Jan 30, 2020, 02:23 PM
    jlisenbe
    Quote:

    Tal, your last link was nothing more than despicable, left-wing propaganda.
    BTW, that was not intended to be a reflection on you, but on the author of the article.

    Vac, I have to show mine every time. No big deal.
  • Jan 30, 2020, 04:17 PM
    talaniman
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    Tal, your last link was nothing more than despicable, left-wing propaganda. As for gerrymandering, the dems have been more guilty of that over the years than anyone else. We are now to the ridiculous point that requiring ID to vote, which is the most obvious and proper thing in the world to do, is called racist tactics by people who don't care to do any real thinking on the subject. You have to show ID to buy tobacco products and alcohol, but not to vote? Really? Buying alcohol is more important than voting? It's an absolutely insane idea.

    Didn't know Bill Moyers ran a left wing site with radical authors, even if the loony you object to was ABSOLUTELY factually correct. Nobody minds ID's, but closing DMV's in some neighborhoods of large minority populations and reducing hours in others that are difficult to access is targeted voter suppression, as well as not allowing college students to vote on campus, or allowing a hunting license to be accepted but not a student ID. You know those little under the radar stuff that doesn't quite make the news. Southern states are notorious for such tricks but they do it everywhere repubs are found with impunity. It ain't about ID's but the hoops you jump through to get them. I mean you can't get an ID without certain required documents and that in itself is a daunting challenge. Can't blame you though if you have no clue the tricks and traps of such a reasonable sounding requirement escapes you.

    Quote:

    A Republican secretary of state or county registrar of voters can target and remove voters in heavily Democratic precincts by sending them first class letters with a “do not forward” stamp on the envelope. If the letters are returned, for any reason, they use that as evidence that the voters do not live at that address and purge them from the voter rolls. If they show up to vote, they are challenged and, at best, required to cast a provisional ballot, with a good chance their vote will not be counted.Republican secretaries of state often create statewide “purge” or “scrub” lists. They find people with names that match someone else and use this as an excuse to assume they are the same person, trying to vote twice and delete them both from the voter rolls, often disregarding little things like Jr. and Sr. and differing middle initials.They also delete people with the same names as felons.

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Vacuum7 View Post
    jlisenbe: People DIE every year overseas trying to vote: How can asking for I.D. be deemed bad? It shouldn't offend anyone AS LONG AS EVERYONE IS REQUIRED THE SAME PRESENTATION: Honestly, if a Vote Poll Staffer was to let me pass without requesting I.D. and asked a person of some non-White ethnicity for their I.D., it would really piss me off!....that's not what we are trying to accomplish with Voter I.D.

    THANKS! Poll watchers shouldn't ask anyone anything.
  • Jan 30, 2020, 05:03 PM
    jlisenbe
    Quote:

    Didn't know Bill Moyers ran a left wing site with radical authors, even if the loony you object to was ABSOLUTELY factually correct.
    You must not have read it. It was factually a bunch of nonsense.

    Quote:

    Nobody minds ID's
    You must not be listening to many of the democrats.

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